Suspicion: Secret Service Agent Nole Remagen saw something he shouldn't have.

[sandensea]

Can you imagine the sheer corruption, treason, and other wrongdoing that must have taken place during Cheeto's shindigs with both Putin and all those brigands Prince Jared flew in for the occasion?

God Speed, Agent Nole Remagen. May the truth be known, whatever that may be.

[Maraya1969]

1. Need more information

[kimbutgar]

2. Isn't he the secret service agent who "had" a massive stroke and died in Scotland?

[Tatiana]

3. One of Trump's Secret Service agents just dropped dead of a "stroke."

July 18 (UPI) -- An agent of the U.S. Secret Service who accompanied President Donald Trump to Europe this week has died in Scotland after experiencing a stroke, the agency said.

The agent, Nole Edward Remagen, had the stroke Sunday at Trump's Turnberry golf resort in Ayrshire. Officials said he died Tuesday.

Trump said Wednesday Remagen was a five-year veteran of the U.S. Marine Corps and a special agent for 19 years.

"Our hearts are filled with sadness over the loss of a beloved and devoted special agent, husband, and father," Trump said in a statement. "Our prayers are with Special Agent Remagen's loved ones, including his wife and two young children. We grieve with them and with his Secret Service colleagues, who have lost a friend and a brother.

https://www.upi.com/US-Secret-Service-agent-dies-while-in-Europe-with-Trump/3171531916876/

I hope an autopsy is conducted. This is beyond odd. A Marine Corps vet and a Secret Service agent for 19 years just drops dead?

[redwitch]

8. How old was he?

It is indeed strange. Those guys are in seriously good shape. They have to be.

[FSogol]

13. Don't know, but they did say he was secret service for 19 years. n/t

[redwitch]

15. Just found it. He was 42.

Awful.

[LuckyCharms]

35. Well, I guess a 42 year old could have a stroke, but

it would seem the odds are highly against it, especially for someone who has to be fit for his job and is probably given regular check ups.

[MichMary]

40. If it was

a brain aneurysm (hemorrhagic stroke) it doesn't matter if he was in seriously good shape.

In my younger days, I knew someone in his 20s who had one.

The wife of a friend of mine had one. She had been having headaches for some time, and then the blood vessel burst, and she died on the spot.

This happens, and it is tragic, but not at all suspect.

[dixiegrrrrl]

53. People sometimes confuse a stroke with a heart attack.

Heart attacks are often related to heart health, but a stroke is caused by a blood clot =blocked artery, or by a bursting blood vessel. Most tend to happen to older people, but can happen at any age, without warning.

One of my cousins died from a stroke, at age 32.

[TheRealNorth]

9. Better check tbeir system for Novichok

[bdamomma]

11. oh crap

this sounds like Putin's tactics. You never know.

[brush]

50. Bingo. Wonder what the agent saw that he wasn't supposed to?

trump is ushering in, lavishing praise on the murderous Putin and his tactics.

Everyday we go down another notch with our imposter president.

[bdamomma]

14. nt

[MichMary]

39. Brain aneurysm

causing a hemorrhagic stroke. It can happen at any age, and has nothing to do with what kind of shape a person is in.

[sandensea]

5. We all do.

Can you imagine if this had happened under Hillary Clinton's watch.

The media circus would make Vince Foster's death look like my grandmother's obituary (God rest her).

[dalton99a]

12. No kidding

[TheRealNorth]

4. Do Republican's need more information before they start

Concocting wild comspiracy theories that they write books on and go on Faux News to promote?

[sandensea]

7. They sure don't - and frankly, Remagen's death has suspicious written all over it.

More so considering the characters involved (Cheeto, Putin, a plane load full of profiteers and bribesters flown in by Prince Jared, etc.) .

[mythology]

62. Do we want to emulate that behavior?

[Tatiana]

6. I'm very suspicious of this too.

I have a hard time believing someone like him just drops dead of a stroke, with all his training, conditioning, and experience.

[sandensea]

10. And this was still a young man.

I believe this is him:

https://www.facebook.com/nole.remagen

[Tatiana]

17. Yes, I believe so, too.

With all the poisonings going on in Britain, we would be foolish not to suspect Russian involvement.

[triron]

18. Cannot view if not on facebook.

[sandensea]

32. Sorry, triron. The image is encrypted and can't be copy/pasted onto DU.

Of course, I'm not sure that's the same Nole E. Remagen.

But everything in the page fits, and he has a brother, Vic Remagen, who posted an image of a Secret Service badge with a mourning band on it.

[Mariana]

27. People in their 40's do drop dead of strokes.

It isn't common, but it happens, just like some apparently healthy young people drop dead of heart attacks. It runs in my family - and it's not from high blood pressure, either.

[Trust Buster]

16. I am not comfortable with our side embracing unsubstantiated conspiracy theories.

We rail against right wingers for doing the same.

[demmiblue]

19. +1

[triron]

21. We are not "embracing" but considering.

With everything else we know or suspect about Trump, it is all the more plausible that there was
foul play.

[sandensea]

28. Exactly.

You've got Cheeto, Putin, Prince Jared, all those profiteers he flew in (in secret, but for good investigative journalism).

It's a like a reunion of Bond villains in there.

I want to know where this man, Agent Remagen, was.

[PearliePoo2]

46. I read that he was in a hotel in Scotland.

Google will have some more information I'm sure!

[sandensea]

48. And plenty of Red Sparrows in there to keep Cheeto entertained no doubt.

This is definitely a story worth keeping an eye on - assuming Big Media will bother to get off its tush and do so.

[TeamPooka]

31. Just because you can make up a theory doesn't mean it's plausible.

That would be a false assumption.

[Trust Buster]

36. Can you source one scintilla of evidence ? If not, it is totally unsubstantiated.

[mythology]

64. We should be rejecting. This is utter and complete nonsense

Anybody saying a stroke at his age is suspicious is uneducated on the subject. A quarter of all strokes happen in people under the age of 45, a rate that has been increasing in recent decades. It has little to do with his physical conditioning.

[marybourg]

22. That's why it's so enjoyable

when we get the opportunity do it. Condolences to his young family.

[mahatmakanejeeves]

24. Amen.

And how did you find a picture of Abraham Lincoln where he's not holding a cellphone?

Thanks.

[EffieBlack]

44. Thank you

People die. Some people die unexpectedly and young.

[lapfog_1]

20. a stroke isn't unknown in a man his apparent age

and he definitely had a stressful job.

On the other hand... they only pick the people in the best health and temperament for the presidential detail.

Worth more investigation... but I'm not ready to jump into any conspiracy yet.

Trump is doing all of his collusion and being a Russian Asset right out in the open.

[sandensea]

25. But it's at the very least, suspicious.

Cheeto, Putin, a plane load of war profiteers, bribesters, and assorted brigands flown in by Prince Jared himself (another miscreant in his own right).

And then this man - this extremely fit, 42 year-old former Marine - drops dead.

I want to know where, exactly, he was just before the stroke.

[DeminPennswoods]

66. Anuerysms can and do go unnoticed and undected

Someone I know had one that was only accidentally detected because of an mri given to diagnose a completely unrelated health problem. Otherwise this person had no symptoms and no idea they had an anuerysm whatsover.

[Sneederbunk]

26. Alert the Vince Foster conspiracists.

[sandensea]

29. If this were under Hillary's watch, our Republican friends certainly would.

Or you think they wouldn't?

[Saguaro]

30. Strokes are generally a consequence of cardiovascular disease / high blood pressure

His medical record should be able to back this up, if accessible.

Of course, it could have been one of those rare Soviet nerve agent induced strokes, or maybe a stroke caused by accidentally falling out a 5 story window. You never really know.

[sandensea]

34. Yes, we all agree on that. But the point is that this was suspicious to say the least.

You have Cheeto, Putin, a plane load of war profiteers, bribesters, and assorted brigands flown in by Prince Jared himself.

Meetings take place, of a highly reserved nature (Jared's night flight was itself meant to be a secret, but for good investigative journalism).

And then this man - this extremely fit, 42 year-old former Marine - drops dead.

I want to know where, exactly, he was just before the stroke.

[MichMary]

45. There are two kinds of stroke

https://www.mayoclinic.org/diseases-conditions/stroke/symptoms-causes/syc-20350113

Ischemic strokes are related to cardiovascular disease leading to blocked blood vessels. A hemorrhagic stroke occurs when a blood vessel bursts, or leaks.

[Doreen]

33. I was suspicious the moment I saw that that happened.

[sandensea]

37. And who could blame you!

You've got: Cheeto, Putin, Prince Jared, a planeload of war profiteers Jared flew in - and in secret, but for good investigative journalism.

This was either a Bond villain reunion, or something was up. Something big.

I for one would like to know where this man, Agent Remagen, was.

[hughee99]

38. As I've been reading lately, Trump commits treason on national TV, so I'm not buying that he killed

a SS agent for witnessing it.

Good luck with that, though.

[mopinko]

41. it does happen. but

if there is no autopsy, then things start to smell funny.
if the family is smart, they will get an independent autopsy.

[dubyadiprecession]

42. Did he die in a failed assination attempt on Trump?

[MichMary]

43. Some stats . . .

Brain Aneurysm Statistics and Facts
An estimated 6 million people in the United States have an unruptured brain aneurysm, or 1 in 50 people.
The annual rate of rupture is approximately 8 – 10 per 100,000 people or about 30,000 people in the United States suffer a brain aneurysm rupture. There is a brain aneurysm rupturing every 18 minutes. Ruptured brain aneurysms are fatal in about 40% of cases. Of those who survive, about 66% suffer some permanent neurological deficit.
Approximately 15% of patients with aneurysmal subarachnoid hemorrhage (SAH) die before reaching the hospital. Most of the deaths from subarachnoid hemorrhage are due to rapid and massive brain injury from the initial bleeding which is not correctable by medical and surgical interventions.
4 out of 7 people who recover from a ruptured brain aneurysm will have disabilities.
Brain aneurysms are most prevalent in people ages 35 – 60, but can occur in children as well. The median age when aneurysmal hemorrhagic stroke occurs is 50 years old and there are typically no warning signs. Most aneurysms develop after the age of 40.

https://www.bafound.org/about-brain-aneurysms/brain-aneurysm-basics/brain-aneurysm-statistics-and-facts/

More info at the link.

[Recursion]

47. He was on Bolton's detail, not Trump's (nt)

[sandensea]

49. That's even MORE suspicious.

That PNAC rat has his fingerprints on everything from 9/11, to the Iraq disaster, to the ongoing Russiagate, and more.

Anything Putin needs to discuss with this administration, he discusses with Bolton.

Cheeto, he mostly just amuses himself with.

[kskiska]

51. Did it interrupt the Orange One's golf game?

Or did he continue on to the 18th hole?

[sandensea]

57. They wouldn't dare!

Kill a Secret Service agent for seeing too much, sure; but interrupt King Con's golf game? Nevah!

[GulfCoast66]

52. This thread does not belong on DU.

Next we will have people on DU saying that closed WalMarts in CA and WA are being prepared to lock up Democratic voters.

We are supposed to be a fact based site. We know a man in a high pressure job had a stroke and died.

We also know that due to Trumps golf excursion the SS agents are working almost non stop. Those are facts.

[ecstatic]

54. If I were on trump's SS detail, I would have a backup plan

for scenarios like this. I'd use my emergency text app to communicate, "If I drop dead after what I just saw, get justice for me!"

[sandensea]

60. +1

If only.

[DBoon]

55. What information do we require to disprove this theory?

Autopsy results?

Records of Nole Remagen's whereabouts during the trip?

I will not discount funny business, but we need to approach this scientifically

A hallmark of conspiracy theories is that they cannot be disproven - any disproof becomes part of the conspiracy

[sandensea]

56. We do need to approach this scientifically - but approach it we must.

Because it's a very real possibility, considering the basket of Bond villains present at these meetings (Cheeto, Putin, Prince Jared, Eric, the bribesters he flew in - secretly - for the occasion, etc.).

[ksoze]

58. Do we want to get into a Seth Rich thing?

I mean could the guy have actually just had a heart attack?

[sandensea]

59. He certainly COULD have.

But you've got: Cheeto, Putin, Prince Jared, Eric, a planeload of bribesters Short Bus flew in - and flown in secretly, but for good investigative journalism.

This was either a Bond villain reunion, or something was up. Something big.

I'd like to know where this man, Agent Remagen, was.

[brooklynite]

61. Trash this - lazy, unfounded conspiracy theory

[ck4829]

65. Why?

Republicans have:
* "Antifa supersoldiers"
* "Cultural Marxism"
* "Homosexual agenda"
* "Homosexual mafia"
* "Homosexual recruitment"
* "Liberal media"
* "Pizzagate"
* "QAnon"
* "Secret Muslims"
* "Sex colonies on Mars"
* "Spirit cooking"
* "Vaccinations make you sick"
* "Where's the birth certificate?"
* "White genocide"
* And of course "GEORGE SOROS!!!", or is it supposed to be "BILL BROWDER!!!" now?

And yet they control more of the government, federal and state, than ever... Makes me think lazy unfounded conspiracy theories aren't losing issues.

[brooklynite]

67. So, you're saying we should lie like the Republicans do?

[ck4829]

70. And what do they have to show for it... besides control of the government, a state media

in the form of Fox News, Sinclair Broadcasting, and talk radio, swaths of supporters who do stupid things to "own the libs", etc.?

I see why this may seem horrible... Honestly, if I from say 2008 was looking at my own post right now, I would be horrified too, but I am just plain tired of this sense of "high road" morality that is getting us the same exact thing that having 65 million votes in 2016 got us.

[sandensea]

68. Some seem to believe Cheeto and all those accomplices of his would never do any such thing.

Qué será.

Great recap, by the way. One for the bookmarks.

[ck4829]

69. The Trump bunch freely party with murderers and thieves... it would be wrong

to think it's outside of the realm of possibility. Was he murdered? Who can say for sure?

And thanks.

[ck4829]

63. Hmm...