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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSwalwell to Trump: Millions of us will make you an ex-president if you turn McFaul over to Putin
Link to tweet
dameatball
(7,396 posts)highplainsdem
(48,968 posts)trueblue2007
(17,205 posts)OUR GOVERNMENT DOESN'T HAVE THE POWER TO TURN A CITIZEN OVER TO A HOSTILE COUNTRY.
Bradshaw3
(7,513 posts)trueblue2007
(17,205 posts)What part of The government can not compel a US citizen to travel out of our country to a HOSTILE COUNTRY to be interrogated, don't you understand?
Please read what i wrote.
Trump could not MAKE ME travel to Russia (or other hostile country) to be interrogated. I am sure our Constitution supports my opinion.
Bradshaw3
(7,513 posts).. couldn't be done. Any other presdient would have bene impeached long ago for what he has done. You are assuming the repubs in control are going by the constitution - unfortunately that is an open question.
trueblue2007
(17,205 posts)Bradshaw3
(7,513 posts)They were wrong. And no one knows for sure what is going to happen, no matter how much they might believe it. No one including people who live with the delusion that they do.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)Are you serious?
My dear, with all DU respect.... you are very naive.
trueblue2007
(17,205 posts)68 YEAR OLD WOMAN MAJORED IN HISTORY AIN'T NAIVE OR DUMB.
The point is MOOT and there is no reason to continue yapping about this because it will not happen.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Majored in history. WOW. That IS impressive.
I just 'majored in music.' What could I possibly know.
3Hotdogs
(12,372 posts)Is it just this guy we ain't gonna turn over or nobody to no country?
tblue37
(65,330 posts)Bernardo de La Paz
(48,994 posts)pangaia
(24,324 posts)NutmegYankee
(16,199 posts)He could refuse about as much as an inmate on death row can refuse to go the the death chamber.
As far as the "government doesn't have the power". Uh, laws mean little to this criminal regime. Just saying...
tblue37
(65,330 posts)Honeycombe8
(37,648 posts)the Dem politcians and the masses of people, including Dems, independents, no party, third parties.
olegramps
(8,200 posts)He could order his arrest on trumped up charges. Then have him retained in a federal prison or military prison under orders of the Commander and Chief. That could result in exactly what they are looking for. Massive rioting would be encouraged leading to the declaration of a national emergency and the declaration of martial law. Elections would be suspended and Trump could then become exactly what the Republicans Neo-cons have sought for forty years, an Authoritarian Presidency. Good bye Republic until the next revolution. If you think that their isn't enough radicals to start actual blood shed on the streets, then just visit a few of the Republican boards where they are calling for the massive slaughter of Liberals. I actually think that the are crazy enough to try it.
dameatball
(7,396 posts)Sooner or later that excuse will happen. After that...
.who knows?
Some of the asshats have more money invested in their weapons than they do their car or truck. In their minds it would be a shame not to use them.
BigmanPigman
(51,584 posts)I wish he would say the same about Montenegro.
Crutchez_CuiBono
(7,725 posts)He will turn over McFaul in a hot second.
Mr McFaul...if you're listening...you can hide out here. Thank you for your service.
TNNurse
(6,926 posts)I hope he has more options that are more secure but he is welcome here.
ck4829
(35,045 posts)Zoonart
(11,849 posts)spanone
(135,823 posts)Trump is out of control.
He has lost it.
peggysue2
(10,828 posts)The very idea of this even as a suggested talking point is completely unAmerican. We don't hand our people over to adversaries. Particularly this adversary.
What's next? He'll want all his critics shot?
Enough!
pangaia
(24,324 posts)Leghorn21
(13,524 posts)in categorical terms this ridiculous request from Putin. Not doing
so creates moral equivalency between a legitimacy US indictment
of Russian intelligence officers and a crazy, completely
fabricated story invented by Putin
Link to tweet
WinstonSmith4740
(3,056 posts)Cheetojesus probably won't think it's forceful and strong enough as a denial, so he'll just turn him over.
My level of hatred for this man surprises even me sometimes.
justgamma
(3,665 posts)"moral equivalency between a legitimacy US indictment of Russian intelligence officers and a crazy, completely fabricated story invented by Putin"
You've hit the nail on the head. The Orange one can't tell the difference between the truth and a lie. That's why we're in this situation.
bronxiteforever
(9,287 posts)FakeNoose
(32,633 posts)Wow!
superpatriotman
(6,247 posts)And the millions of magats and other scoundrels.
highplainsdem
(48,968 posts)japple
(9,821 posts).spot on!
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)Or at least advance doubts in some feckless wobblies. I hope all these Americans are getting assurances of asylum from other nations.
Mr.Bill
(24,282 posts)Zoonart
(11,849 posts)dewsgirl
(14,961 posts)rustysgurl
(1,040 posts)... wind up having a 'stroke' somewhere. I began to type 'this is starting to get scary,' but then realized it's been scary for a while.
Enoki33
(1,587 posts)despotic behavior coming from a truly evil human some people call president. This deranged man thinks such a conversation takes precedence over the Russians indicted by Mueller. The stench of being a Russian agent spreads nationwide.
Garrett78
(10,721 posts)OliverQ
(3,363 posts)Garrett78
(10,721 posts)sandensea
(21,624 posts)Cheeto could hand Putin the keys to the Pentagon, and they still wouldn't allow so much as a censure of him.
SCVDem
(5,103 posts)We swore an oath!
Veterans against tRump!
Wounded Bear
(58,647 posts)Johnny2X2X
(19,038 posts)Do people even realize that this is some zany conspiracy theory that McFaul did anything illegal?
2naSalit
(86,536 posts)and so he's worthless as a human to both of them.
JHB
(37,158 posts)Really, if you need to make that claim at this date, are you nailed to the fence or something?
ancianita
(36,023 posts)Tatiana
(14,167 posts)This is leadership.
Members of the Senate, watch and learn.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)exboyfil
(17,862 posts)what Putin was asking for should not be a defense. When will the cultists stop grading on a curve?
hughee99
(16,113 posts)any of his people to the US for trial.
pangaia
(24,324 posts)infinite_wisdom
(73 posts)We have an extremely unstable quasi-Fascist President and a Republican party (with a few exceptions) that has shown zero courage.
I don't think Cheeto would do it, but I would not be totally surprised if he did.
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)Its obscene.
Time to impeach.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)A discussion about how Hillary will take over as president for Trump. It may be time to impeach, but not because of this discussion.
ck4829
(35,045 posts)Zero chance he'll be the nominee
Zero chance he'll win the election
Zero chance he'll embolden the worst parts of the US who should be in rubber rooms, not close to power
I've been disappointed over and over again.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)Martin omalley win the primary and theres zero chance the Browns will win the Super Bowl. In this case, though, theres zero chance because theres nothing in it for Trump personally or politically.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Trump always hurts himself politically but that doesn't seem to stop them. Israel Ambassador sounded alarm bells hours before this trial balloon entered the MSM.
Former US ambassador to Israel sounds the alarm on Trump embracing Putins most sinister Helsinki proposal
Dan Shapiro, who served as an ambassador to Israel under the Obama administration, is raising alarms about President Donald Trump potentially embracing Russian President Vladimir Putins plan to extradite Michael McFaul, the former American ambassador to Russia.
Reacting to Russian state media reports about Putin bringing up the possibility of Trump sending him McFaul in exchange for letting special counsel Robert Muellers team question Russian operatives about their alleged role in interfering in the 2016 presidential election, Shapiro writes that Trump may just be stupid enough to believe this would be a good deal.
My 11-year old knows the offer is ludicrous and unacceptable, he writes. Russia will provide nothing on the 12 operatives, use any visit to gather intel on the investigation, & try to elevate garbage charges against Putins opponents to the level of Muellers well-documented allegations. Trump didnt get it.
Shapiro then went on to say that he was particularly horrified by the possibility of Trump extraditing McFaul as a way to stick it to former President Barack Obama.
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/former-us-ambassador-israel-sounds-alarm-trump-embracing-putins-sinister-helsinki-proposal/
Sticking it to Obama is always a motive for Trump but they could never float extradition but only "questioning"
We better hope there is 0% but this is more evidence of his treachery.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)Doesnt really stick it to Obama any more than catching Manafort on financial crimes sticks it to Trump. I think it doesnt bother Trump at all to let these stories float around in the press and generate a lot of outrage against something he never really intended to do anyway.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)The US nor does Russia turn over diplomats that are caught as spies or commiting crimes you persona non grata kicked out of the country see the Raymond James incident or countless other examples. Allowing Russia to "interrogate him" would be unprecedented. Senate voted 98-0. No doubt Putin brought it up in that private meeting we know nothing about McFaul was on TV speaking out against it. If he doesn't do it it will be because of the outrage.
Sticking it to Obama was his motive that night in Moscow which is why he specifically wanted the room Obama's slept in. You said he doesn't have any political or personal reasons he wants a second summit! Praised Russia art the first one.
If billions left Russia and he has d something to do with it then he should be given a medal considering Russia's attack on our country. If he gave him up even for interrogation that would be sticking it to Obama and part of his continued selling out to Russia.
hughee99
(16,113 posts)He wants loyalty from that hell even sell out US diplomats for petty revenge with no real value. I guess well see. I anticipate a lot of outrage about what Trump might do, and then nothing happens.
Bookmark this if you like, and you can tell me you told me so if it actually happens.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Trial balloon released by Trump (why isn't poisoning or information and cyber war not coming out of that meeting)
I usually just catch a subthread get stuck trying to post on a phone then I go to top of another forum stuck on another sub thread I wouldn't do a told you so because I didn't even think Trump would be foolish enough to double down on another summit.
JonLP24
(29,322 posts)Russia's "generous offer" so you can do a told you so.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)2naSalit
(86,536 posts)orangecrush
(19,537 posts)He has completely lost his mind!!!
keithbvadu2
(36,775 posts)Rhiannon12866
(205,210 posts)It may have already.
Mc Mike
(9,114 posts)America isn't going down to that fat piece of nazi offal, without a fight.
Midnight Writer
(21,745 posts)If so, the machine is moving and he is in real danger.
ffr
(22,669 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)do we have to take??
Will Trump turning over US diplomats to certain torture and death at the hand of our enemy Putin do the trick????
Ilsa
(61,694 posts)This is how you make ambassadors and staff nervous and want to quit. My guess is that Marines will protect them overseas, but if your president has you arrested and extradited back, people will leave State in droves. Same thing with CIA and other ooeratives.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)highplainsdem
(48,968 posts)Lint Head
(15,064 posts)rocktivity
(44,576 posts)rocktivity
roamer65
(36,745 posts)guss
(239 posts)Shit... 3 years or more, of investigations of Benghazi.
To try to prove that Hillary's was incompetent because
Ambassador was kill during an attack.
because the Republicans took away funding for security for embassy's
Then Trump gonna Send a Ambassador to get waterboarded
and tortured to appease his boss Putin.
WTF
...sad traitor...
ck4829
(35,045 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,128 posts)Go for it, Donnie! Chicken!!!
Ohioboy
(3,240 posts)The fact that we are even having this discussion is crazy!
Lifelong Protester
(8,421 posts)McFaul (and his family ) can come here.