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Stuart G

(38,416 posts)
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 07:39 PM Jul 2018

"The Worst Case Scenario Has Been Obvious For A While" Josh Marshal, Talking Points Memo:

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/the-worst-case-scenario-has-been-obvious-for-a-while

last two sentences very important....

Yes, this is the entire article: ______________________________________________________________________________________

The video clips below speak for themselves. There’s little to add to them. I’m watching big think types on TV right now expressing outrage, surprise, bewilderment, anger that President Trump didn’t “hold Putin accountable.” Sometimes when you’re surprised again and again and again, it’s time to consider your assumptions.

If you’re a regular reader, you know that I’m pretty cautious in my arguments, cautious on a lot of fronts. I can be aggressive in how I frame those arguments. I sometimes speak in hyperbole. But in basic judgments I’m quite cautious. Something is fundamentally wrong here. There is no reasonable explanation for the simple facts we see other than that Russia has some kind of hold over President Trump.

I know that sounds wild and I have a very hard time sometimes quite believing it myself. But it’s so overwhelmingly obvious that we need to get real with ourselves and recognize what is happening. I don’t know what the specific details are. I don’t know whether Russia has some compromising information on the President, whether they have enticed him with personal enrichment. I truly don’t know. But none of the standard explanations – truculence, trolling, anger over questioning the legitimacy of his election – none of them remotely add up as an explanation. In the future, when we know more details, we will have a difficult time explaining how any serious people continued to think there could be an innocent explanation.

Astronomers don’t see black holes directly. They see other celestial objects being affected by them. They infer the presence of a black hole by its gravitational pull. It is a deduction but a basically certain one because objects do not bend the course of their trajectory without a massive gravitational pull. As I wrote eighteen months ago, as the Russia story was erupting, you can infer the scope and depth of a scandal by its gravitational pull, often long before you know the particular details. President Trump’s actions make perfect sense if your assumptions are correct. Either by fear or avarice or some other species of control that exceeds the capacity of my imagination Russia exerts a control over President Trump. So the US is in grave danger.

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ug FirstLight Jul 2018 #1
It will take some time, but I think we will get rid of Trump. Stuart G Jul 2018 #2
Grave danger EndGOPPropaganda Jul 2018 #3
either way it ends up, bdtrppr6 Jul 2018 #4

Stuart G

(38,416 posts)
2. It will take some time, but I think we will get rid of Trump.
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 08:05 PM
Jul 2018

How? Maybe through impeachment..Maybe some other ways..
When? ???
Why?.........Obvious to almost everyone, What Trump did is against the interests of this country and ultimately the constitution.

Who?.. Some republicans will also participate. This is the last straw.
.......... All democrats will participate.
.......... Some Newspapers and Some Media will participate..(no, I don't know who or when)
.......... Maybe one or two past presidents will participate, maybe..(Jimmy Carter for one,)
.......... Many public personalities on radio and TV and other media will support Trump resigning.

Opposition to getting rid of Trump: Yes, the almost all loyal republicans will strongly oppose. That will become obvious. Many media outlets. will oppose completely, newspapers, and radio and TV personalities..It will be very ugly, but again what Trump did and said cannot be taken back. Changing words will not work. Neither will denial. This is on video for all to see, as many times as one wishes...
..... This is a defining moment in my opinion.

 

bdtrppr6

(796 posts)
4. either way it ends up,
Wed Jul 18, 2018, 11:51 PM
Jul 2018

I'll wager much blood will be shed by both sides. this won't just go away, another thing to be well aware of. GOPutiners cling to guns and violent denials of anything not MAGA and we won't get rid of them any other way. we'll get shot and so will they. i really don't think anything will occur without massive violence. it has reached that point.

all in glory of GOP and Putin. and a dumbass orange POS.

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