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msongs

(67,405 posts) Wed Jul 18, 2018, 10:50 PM Jul 2018

IMO the US is not obligated to anything putin/trump discussed agreed in private

personal conversations. gossip sessions with no witnesses are just that, gossip and not official.

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IMO the US is not obligated to anything putin/trump discussed agreed in private (Original Post) msongs Jul 2018 OP

And we know it's "gossip" how? Heartstrings Jul 2018 #1

Just locker room talk techne7319 Jul 2018 #2

Agreed ck4829 Jul 2018 #3

Hard to tell IMO. It depends on what and how covert ... and other players involved. Some of RKP5637 Jul 2018 #4

Since tax dollars are going to be used in some way HipChick Jul 2018 #5

Agreed. But it's not like trump and Putin couldn't have, or haven't had, private talks but before Hoyt Jul 2018 #6

And you would be sooooo wrong. This is USA foreign policy and he is doing it in utter secrecy... Hekate Jul 2018 #7

Imagine the RW outrage if Pres Obama had said even Panich52 Jul 2018 #8

Your opinion is terribly misguided blogslut Jul 2018 #9

You and Hoyt should read this from a former CIA agent: he feels "sick" Hekate Jul 2018 #10

I've asked on a couple of threads FormerOstrich Jul 2018 #11

Heartstrings

(7,349 posts)

1. And we know it's "gossip" how?

Reply to msongs (Original post)

Wed Jul 18, 2018, 10:54 PM

Jul 2018

We don't.....

techne7319

(173 posts)

2. Just locker room talk

Reply to msongs (Original post)

Wed Jul 18, 2018, 10:54 PM

Jul 2018

However, it appears there were “deals” made, and I’m sure Dump and the GOP Congress will consider it official

ck4829

(35,069 posts)

3. Agreed

Reply to msongs (Original post)

Wed Jul 18, 2018, 10:54 PM

Jul 2018

We have a man who is not really the President of the United States having a conversation with the dictator of Russia... this has absolutely nothing to do with the legitimate government of the United States.

RKP5637

(67,107 posts)

4. Hard to tell IMO. It depends on what and how covert ... and other players involved. Some of

Reply to msongs (Original post)

Wed Jul 18, 2018, 10:58 PM

Jul 2018

it could fly below the radar.

HipChick

(25,485 posts)

5. Since tax dollars are going to be used in some way

Reply to msongs (Original post)

Wed Jul 18, 2018, 10:59 PM

Jul 2018

I'd say US has a right..

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)

6. Agreed. But it's not like trump and Putin couldn't have, or haven't had, private talks but before

Reply to msongs (Original post)

Wed Jul 18, 2018, 11:16 PM

Jul 2018

and will again. These two could talk several times a day, everyday, if they wanted to. We wouldn’t know it.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)

7. And you would be sooooo wrong. This is USA foreign policy and he is doing it in utter secrecy...

Reply to msongs (Original post)

Wed Jul 18, 2018, 11:27 PM

Jul 2018

Literally shutting the door in our faces, then coming out pretending he's just pals with our sworn enemy.

Then he dribbles out bits over the coming days and weeks. We know from past behavior that Trump agreed to things that will appall us when we find out, and we know from past behavior that Putin has it all on tape and likewise will deploy it against us as he sees fit.

Trump is stupid. Putin is not.

Panich52

(5,829 posts)

8. Imagine the RW outrage if Pres Obama had said even

Reply to msongs (Original post)

Wed Jul 18, 2018, 11:28 PM

Jul 2018

half the pro-Putin crap Trump said in public — they'd scream for immediate impeachment. And firing squad if he'd agreed to let Russians interrogate our ambassadors.

blogslut

(38,000 posts)

9. Your opinion is terribly misguided

Reply to msongs (Original post)

Wed Jul 18, 2018, 11:31 PM

Jul 2018

These aren't a couple of neighbors chatting over the fence.

Hekate

(90,674 posts)

10. You and Hoyt should read this from a former CIA agent: he feels "sick"

Reply to msongs (Original post)

Wed Jul 18, 2018, 11:42 PM

Jul 2018

https://www.democraticunderground.com/10142113317

FormerOstrich

(2,702 posts)

11. I've asked on a couple of threads

Reply to msongs (Original post)

Thu Jul 19, 2018, 12:59 AM

Jul 2018

but haven't received a response.

Has there been other administrations that had one-one private meetings with world players (can't call them leaders)? I don't remember any before now. There is something really disturbing about them, in and of themselves...regardless of what was said.

Wouldn't these violate open record laws?

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