***TAD DEVINE 2014 emails are evidence in MANAFORT case. And Bernie hired Devine in 2014. ***
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Devine's Wikipedia page says it was a year later, in 2015. But the Politico article below, from March 2016, describes a meeting among Bernie, Devine, and others TWO YEARS EARLIER, brainstorming about the campaign. And the WA Post article below says Bernie signed Devine on in 2014.
It was already known that Devine and Manafort worked for the same Ukrainian candidate in 2006 and again in 2009-10. I wasn't aware of any connection as recently as 2014, however. Much less at the same time that Devine was talking to Bernie about his campaign.
The 2014 Devine emails included Kilminik and Rick Gates. The first 2014 Kilminik email mentions a trip to Ukraine. The second one, two months later, appears to be Devine asking Kilminik to send him the talking points.
So Tad Devine is asking Kilminik, a Russian intelligence officer, to send him talking points (topic unknown) in June 2014. And sometime in 2014 or 2015, depending on the source, he goes to work for Bernie.
I doubt that Bernie is complicit in anything. I wonder, however, if Devine is one of those asking for immunity.
The emails listed on page 2 of the list of evidence (for next weeks trial in Virginia) at the first link.
http://thehill.com/policy/national-security/397804-read-muellers-list-of-evidence-in-manafort-trial
Who is Konstantin Kilminik, the recipient of Devine's emails? According to Mueller, he is a person with ties to Russian intelligence.
https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2018/06/the-astonishing-tale-of-the-man-mueller-calls-person-a/562217/
For more than two decades, Konstantin Kilimnik, known familiarly as Kostya and K.K., has worked for Americans, the bulk of his time with Manafort. During that entire period, he has been dogged by suspicions. There were always hints that he might be serving another master, providing a set of surveilling eyes for Russian intelligence. One of his former colleagues, Michael Getto, told me, “From my standpoint, I kept my distance from Kostya, because I knew there was a better-than-even chance that he was connected to people I didn’t want to be.” These insinuations were never backed by more than a smattering of circumstantial evidence. They were never enough to deter State Department officials from grabbing the occasional gossipy drink with him—although one diplomat, casting a backwards glance over the course of his dealings with Kilimnik, told me, “He has excellent tradecraft.”
It was easy enough to dismiss those old hunches as conspiracy theories. The immediate post-Soviet period was a time rife with unfounded accusations. But Robert Mueller has begun to state them as fact. Or rather, in two separate fillings, he has referred to an unnamed colleague of Manafort’s, identified only as “Person A,” with “ties to Russian intelligence.” In a brief Mueller submitted to a U.S. District Court in the course of pressing his case against Manafort, he went one step further. Citing FBI special agents, the special prosecutor described Person A’s ties to Russian intelligence as “active” through the 2016 presidential election.
What everyone close to Paul Manafort already knew, and what The New York Times and other outlets later confirmed, is that Mueller was pseudonymously describing none other than Konstantin Kilimnik. Or to put it even more bluntly than Mueller: Donald Trump’s campaign chairman had a pawn of Russian intelligence as his indispensable alter ego.
https://www.politico.com/magazine/story/2016/03/bernie-sanders-2016-inside-213692
March 2016
They were sitting around two years ago on couches and armchairs in liberal radio host Bill Press’s rowhouse near Eastern Market in Washington, picking at dinner. Sanders, his wife Jane, and all of his top people were there, except for campaign manager Jeff Weaver, who wouldn’t be hired for a year.
Sanders had asked Press to pull in a few others, too, including then-American Bridge president Brad Woodhouse, former Harry Reid chief of staff Susan McCue, Reps. Keith Ellison (D-Minn.) and Barbara Lee (D-Calif.). They spitballed and listened as the Vermont senator laid out what he wanted to do, talked about what a race would really entail, how tough running against Hillary Clinton would be. Jane Sanders gave off the distinct impression she was collecting information she hoped to use to talk him out of it.
Devine spoke toward the end. Reading notes off a yellow legal pad that he’d brought, he went deep in the mechanics—the pointlessness of running as a message candidate, the calendar, the states they’d need to win, the $40-50 million they figured they’d need to raise by Iowa—a number that sounded high at the time.
“Tad was super f--king organized,” said one person who attended. “There had been a ton of thought that had gone into this.”
https://www.washingtonpost.com/politics/sanders-is-biggest-spender-of-2016-so-far--generating-millions-for-consultants/2016/04/28/600170ce-0cf2-11e6-a6b6-2e6de3695b0e_story.html?utm_term=.3860d586c8c3
When he signed on in 2014 with Sanders, a longtime client and friend of two decades, Devine said he never envisioned the campaign would end up being a behemoth.
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This has been known for so long.
Glad its finally being given the proper spotlight.
ABOUT FKING TIME!
When this all comes to pass, She will emerge strong & justice will be hers.
Just to make it more readable.
This one's for you pnwmom 
Now this could all be very innocent and in no way connected to the Russian "meddling" and "shenanigans" in 2016. (The media reluctance to use the word "sabotage" is stunning.)
And even if it is connected, that doesn't necessarily mean that either or both Devine and BS were aware. The Russians are known to recruit and cultivate the easily duped who they dismissively refer to as "useful idiots".
https://www.scribd.com/document/384216900/Mueller-list-of-indictments-against-Manafort#from_embed
And Josh Uretsky s̶t̶o̶l̶e̶, d̶o̶w̶n̶l̶o̶a̶d̶e̶d̶, c̶o̶p̶i̶e̶d̶, succeeded in accessing (purely by accident or as an intellectual/technical exercise only) and then briefly glanced at HRC's DNC data so he could document that some nefarious unknown party might be able to breach it.
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HRC is a heorine for the history books.
However, when Mueller is finished with them, HRC will still be the one who survives, standing with the long line of fighters of human rights.
She'll walk on with the great ones.
why be a little corrupt when you can go full monty
I'm surprised this is even coming out!
Link to tweet
herding cats! https://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1014&pid=2114067
Thanks, RB
big name Democrats. But clearly Devine had seen the monied oligarchs in action since then. This is even more outrageous -- blaming Wall Street for everything while he clearly knew the murderous oligarchs from his recent dealings. The absolute duplicity, the planning that had to go into this -- I can't wait until we see more of Devine's evidence.
Thanks for that link, Cha!
Holy crap! 
Who knows RB, who knows. 
You really pulled that one out.
I'll stick with What did they know, and when did they know it. Credibility, double standards, hypocrisy -- all of that and more.
about "What did they know, and when did they know it". But Credibility, double standards, hypocrisy and all that? Yeah, that's obvious. We get it, we see it every day . I find second string players to be boring. I'll stick with Mueller since those who talk shit don't know shit and those who know, they just don't fucking talk.
connections have already destroyed the credibility of the whole operation that worked to take down Hillary. And we haven't even gotten to the good part yet. So, I'll definitely stick with Mueller, too, lol.
You don't have to be "guilty" to be exposed for a fraud, LOL. 
He already has. It's happening right in front of us.
