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bigtree

(85,971 posts)
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 01:23 PM Jul 2018

Sen. Schumer introduces bill rejecting U.S. govt. rendering of American officials to Putin

Last edited Thu Jul 19, 2018, 10:49 PM - Edit history (1)

Chuck Schumer @SenSchumer
No President should have the power to gift wrap American citizens, let alone former Ambassadors, to our known adversaries. This morning, @SenatorMenendez @SenatorDurbin @brianschatz & I offer a simple resolution that the Senate should pass today. Read it:



resolution: https://www.democrats.senate.gov/imo/media/doc/ARM18F75.pdf

Sahil Kapur @sahilkapur 2h2 hours ago
Mitch McConnell just set up a vote today on this @SenSchumer resolution calling for refusing to hand over U.S. diplomats or officers to Vladimir Putin.

(The White House wouldn't rule out doing so yesterday.)

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Sen. Schumer introduces bill rejecting U.S. govt. rendering of American officials to Putin (Original Post) bigtree Jul 2018 OP
Kick dalton99a Jul 2018 #1
about to vote bigtree Jul 2018 #12
unanimous bigtree Jul 2018 #17
It is a tragedy that they even have to introduce such a bill. madaboutharry Jul 2018 #2
The unthinkable is now happening BSdetect Jul 2018 #6
EXACTLY. AZ8theist Jul 2018 #21
The fact that this is even necessary should scare the crap out of everyone Freethinker65 Jul 2018 #3
I don't understand how it is even possible for the spooky3 Jul 2018 #7
Oh, but I bet Eric Prince leftieNanner Jul 2018 #19
No shit. That's exactly what I thought...nt 2naSalit Jul 2018 #20
Just figured out your screen name leftieNanner Jul 2018 #22
Look how easily Trump turned ICE into little henchmen for racist Farmer-Rick Jul 2018 #25
It does... 2naSalit Jul 2018 #18
+100 Duppers Jul 2018 #23
What have we come to in such a short period of time? Arkansas Granny Jul 2018 #4
Schumer is Still My Favorite Senator populistdriven Jul 2018 #5
2 did not vote. Mitch one of them? True Blue American Jul 2018 #27
Probably McCain. He is ill. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #34
He lost my vote forever when he stabbed Obama in the back Trumpocalypse Jul 2018 #32
what????? what have I missed??? niyad Jul 2018 #8
Putin Asked Trump to Let Russia Question McFaul, White House Says bigtree Jul 2018 #9
JFC niyad Jul 2018 #10
Not just McFaul. Also Browder. Also our INTEL AGENCIES! Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #30
Putin wanted Mueller to come to Russia to True Blue American Jul 2018 #36
Poorly written!!! colorado_ufo Jul 2018 #11
Schiff and Schumer are trying, so are a lot of other Dems BigmanPigman Jul 2018 #13
It's insane to be even considering this. bluestateboomer Jul 2018 #14
Indeed!!! Duppers Jul 2018 #24
Putin's behavior, now, is that of one who has confident control over a noob satellite. ancianita Jul 2018 #15
It's a resolution, not legislation RandomAccess Jul 2018 #16
They talk a pretty game but when push comes to shove Farmer-Rick Jul 2018 #26
+1 RandomAccess Jul 2018 #33
Trump now says True Blue American Jul 2018 #28
These people were in serious danger, if Putin got his hands on them in any way. Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #29
This is how Trump gets away with pretty much everything Snake Plissken Jul 2018 #31
no matter how 'absurd' Congress needs to respond bigtree Jul 2018 #35

bigtree

(85,971 posts)
12. about to vote
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 02:41 PM
Jul 2018

...Sen. Schumer speaking.

"Let this be a warning to President Trump that the U.S. Senate will not allow this to happen."

madaboutharry

(40,183 posts)
2. It is a tragedy that they even have to introduce such a bill.
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 01:25 PM
Jul 2018

It is evidence of the lawless and traitorous president sitting in The White House.

spooky3

(34,401 posts)
7. I don't understand how it is even possible for the
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 01:43 PM
Jul 2018

Govt to force someone not under suspicion of committing a crime to submit to questioning by another country. We’re not Russia, yet.

leftieNanner

(15,058 posts)
19. Oh, but I bet Eric Prince
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 03:19 PM
Jul 2018

would be happy to pick up Ambassador McFaul in the dead of night and spirit him on a private jet to Moscow.

Sick stuff. The fact that Sarah Suckabee thinks it's A-OK to even consider this is vile.

Farmer-Rick

(10,134 posts)
25. Look how easily Trump turned ICE into little henchmen for racist
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 04:04 PM
Jul 2018

It would be so easy for Trump to turn some police, federal marshals or military members into his private SS.

They are there, they are willing, all they need is to be given orders.

So, yeah, Trump could easily force an American citizen to be delivered to Russian mobster spies and little tiny Putin.

Arkansas Granny

(31,505 posts)
4. What have we come to in such a short period of time?
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 01:27 PM
Jul 2018

It's beyond belief that we even have to consider a move like this.

populistdriven

(5,644 posts)
5. Schumer is Still My Favorite Senator
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 01:29 PM
Jul 2018

even if we disagree on somethings

I'm glad Maxine Waters turned the other cheek, Chuck was doing what he had to, but we also need Maxine to keep up the good fight!

bigtree

(85,971 posts)
9. Putin Asked Trump to Let Russia Question McFaul, White House Says
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 01:56 PM
Jul 2018

Trump entertained a proposal from Vladimir Putin to let Russian authorities pose questions for the former U.S. ambassador to Moscow, Michael McFaul, White House Press Secretary Sarah Huckabee Sanders said Wednesday.

Allowing the interrogation of a former American ambassador, who held diplomatic immunity while in Moscow, would be an unprecedented breach in protections traditionally provided to the nation’s foreign service.

In exchange for the opportunity to have McFaul and a number of other Americans questioned, the Russian president offered to let Special Counsel Robert Mueller observe interrogations of 12 Russian intelligence agents indicted by a U.S. grand jury last week for hacking Democratic Party email accounts.

https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-07-18/putin-asked-trump-to-question-obama-s-ambassador-sanders-says




Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
30. Not just McFaul. Also Browder. Also our INTEL AGENCIES!
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 04:15 PM
Jul 2018

If I recall correctly what was said at the Putin press conference and afterwards.

True Blue American

(17,981 posts)
36. Putin wanted Mueller to come to Russia to
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 10:56 PM
Jul 2018

Interview the 12 that have been indicted. In turn he wants to be allowed to interview McFaul and Browder in Russia.

colorado_ufo

(5,730 posts)
11. Poorly written!!!
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 02:19 PM
Jul 2018

Why does it not also name "private citizens of the United States of America?" How can we private citizens be secure?

Why does it specify, "by the government of Vladimir Putin?" Why not ANY foreign entity, no matter what the country or who the head of state is? When do North Korea and China start demanding extraditions? Or Afghanistan? Or . . . ?

BigmanPigman

(51,564 posts)
13. Schiff and Schumer are trying, so are a lot of other Dems
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 02:44 PM
Jul 2018

and we should give them credit.

It is the GOP that wouldn't pass the bills that were introduced by Dems over a year ago calling for an Independent Investigation like we had after 9/11. It is non partisan, transparent, fully staffed and funded and relatively quick. Of course the GOP wouldn't vote for it since they INTEND to destroy the investigation since it is harmful to them personally and as a party.

bluestateboomer

(505 posts)
14. It's insane to be even considering this.
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 02:51 PM
Jul 2018

But beyond all of this, what would the legal means for the government to do this? Have we come so far that the government can just grab someone off the street and send them to another country? Doesn't there have to be an arrest for some offense. Do we have an extradition treaty with the Russians?

ancianita

(35,926 posts)
15. Putin's behavior, now, is that of one who has confident control over a noob satellite.
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 03:03 PM
Jul 2018

Putin's messages are, "We reason together MY way. I dangle proposals. YOU react, Trumpuppets. "

 

RandomAccess

(5,210 posts)
16. It's a resolution, not legislation
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 03:12 PM
Jul 2018

It is specifically non-binding.

I'm glad they did it, but it doesn't do nothin' for stopping Trump if he chooses to hand McFaul over.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
29. These people were in serious danger, if Putin got his hands on them in any way.
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 04:12 PM
Jul 2018

Not to mention that we don't give our citizens to foreign enemies! WTH?

Trump needs to be removed asap. This is outrageous.

Hate to hear this is a Resolution & it's non-binding. Wish it were legislation so that this would absolutely be prevented. It could even be set to expire in a few years. As soon as the country is safe from Trump.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
31. This is how Trump gets away with pretty much everything
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 04:25 PM
Jul 2018

This is just another silly distraction that would never have gone anywhere, designed to keep the focus off other issues.

Trump throws out the most absurd nonsense and everyone in Congress and the media runs after it like cats chasing a laser pointer, they should ignore his idiocy and let Trump try it, it would force the hand of the GOP to start impeachment hearings.


bigtree

(85,971 posts)
35. no matter how 'absurd' Congress needs to respond
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 09:50 PM
Jul 2018

...that's most of the reason we're in such jeopardy today, because the majority has yet to step up to its responsibility to hold this president accountable.

A resolution is the least they should do.

They definitely should not ignore him.



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