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babylonsister

(171,045 posts)
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 05:23 PM Jul 2018

Trump has attacked U.S. intel agencies. Expect them to strike back.

https://www.reuters.com/article/us-weiner-trump-commentary/commentary-trump-has-attacked-u-s-intel-agencies-expect-them-to-strike-back-idUSKBN1K82AB

July 18, 2018 / 12:39 PM / a day ago
Commentary: Trump has attacked U.S. intel agencies. Expect them to strike back.
Tim Weiner


The foundations of American national security are under assault. The battle lines are drawn. On one side stand the Federal Bureau of Investigation, the Central Intelligence Agency, the National Security Agency. On the other: the commander-in-chief of the United States.

Donald Trump’s appalling performance in Helsinki was a subversive act. He rejected the conclusion of American intelligence that his election was aided by a hydra-headed act of political warfare controlled by the Kremlin. He did so with a wink and a smile for the smirking autocrat who led the attack.

Trump called the investigation of the Russian operation by special counsel Robert S. Mueller “a disaster for our country.” He accepted Vladimir Putin’s denial that anything of the kind ever happened. Trump likewise leapt at and embraced Putin’s cynical and empty proposal to cooperate with Mueller – “an incredible offer,” he said. The likelihood of Moscow’s spies willingly sharing secrets with the FBI is nil.

The display of fealty to Moscow was indelible. Then Trump tried to erase it. Back in the White House on Tuesday, he said he didn’t say what he meant or mean what he said.


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Does another “Deep Throat” exist today? Likely so. Shortly after Trump took office, the Washington Post and the New York Times published stories about national security adviser Flynn’s secret telephone talks with the Russian ambassador. These stories, which led directly to Flynn’s resignation and his devastating guilty plea for lying to the FBI, clearly came from intelligence intercepts. The source was probably someone with access to top-secret information tightly held by the FBI and the NSA – which would make it a rare leak. Intelligence intercepts, or their gist, hit the front page about as often as presidents are accused of high crimes and misdemeanors.

Even paranoids have enemies, and Trump has made real enemies in the realm of American national security. He has struck blows against their empire. One way or another, the empire will strike back.
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Trump has attacked U.S. intel agencies. Expect them to strike back. (Original Post) babylonsister Jul 2018 OP
I wish they'd hurry the hell up! Laurian Jul 2018 #1
My sentiments exactly! woodsprite Jul 2018 #2
Sometimes I feel like Charlie Brown leftieNanner Jul 2018 #3
And the IRS too! Golden Raisin Jul 2018 #9
This only proves what an egomanic 45 is. Boomerproud Jul 2018 #4
This is true. Wonder how McConnell, Ryan, the Kochs et al will align. MarcA Jul 2018 #13
Treadstone from the Deepstate lapfog_1 Jul 2018 #5
I'm counting on IT!!!!! Cha Jul 2018 #6
Noticed something interesting in the picture from that article htuttle Jul 2018 #7
I bet they already have Farmer-Rick Jul 2018 #23
Come on you Patriots, leak it, spill it! PearliePoo2 Jul 2018 #8
There are intelligence agencies bdamomma Jul 2018 #21
Strong, powerful denials get him every time. czarjak Jul 2018 #10
I really hope so.. xeodtech Jul 2018 #11
Honestly surprised that there have not been mass resignations oberliner Jul 2018 #12
Coats and Wray speaking out now is telling DeminPennswoods Jul 2018 #14
K&R Scurrilous Jul 2018 #15
I hope they don't "Strike Back" but I hope they understand that Trump is not their friend Caliman73 Jul 2018 #16
Have they yet? nt Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #17
Yes. Coats and Wray yesterday. babylonsister Jul 2018 #24
I heard Coats reiterate his position. Didn't hear Wray at all. I didn't hear "striking" back. Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #25
One can only hope, but unfortunately they're patriotic Americans (unlike him) so.... George II Jul 2018 #18
the bdamomma Jul 2018 #19
The IC bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #20
I think they just did... Wounded Bear Jul 2018 #22
KO pointed this out last year niyad Jul 2018 #26

Laurian

(2,593 posts)
1. I wish they'd hurry the hell up!
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 05:28 PM
Jul 2018

It's worse every stinkin' day and the republicans surely won't do anything to stop it.

leftieNanner

(15,074 posts)
3. Sometimes I feel like Charlie Brown
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 05:33 PM
Jul 2018

and Lucy with the football. I keep hoping that SOMEONE - ANYONE with an R beside their name will step forward. One senator would be enough. But no, not one of those (Flake? Corker? Murkowski?) will do the right thing and push Mitch McConnell aside.

MarcA

(2,195 posts)
13. This is true. Wonder how McConnell, Ryan, the Kochs et al will align.
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 06:54 PM
Jul 2018

Wished we could get rid of them all. How far will Mueller be willing to go?

lapfog_1

(29,194 posts)
5. Treadstone from the Deepstate
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 05:37 PM
Jul 2018

this time they can't use Nikky... it has to be Jason Bourne.

Jason Bourne:
You sent me to kill Wombosi.

Conklin:
Kill Wombosi? We can do that any time we want. I can send Nikki to do that, for Chrissakes. Mr. Wombosi was supposed to be dead three weeks ago. He was supposed to have died in a way where the only possible explanation was that he'd been murdered by a member of his own entourage. I don't send you to kill. I send you to be invisible. I send you because you don't exist.

htuttle

(23,738 posts)
7. Noticed something interesting in the picture from that article
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 05:44 PM
Jul 2018
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Do you suppose that whatever department of US intelligence is capable of reading license plates from space would be able to use some of that 'Zoom in 500% -- Enhance, enhance' business to read Putin's notes that he's holding up so plainly for all to see?

Do you suppose he might be doing that on purpose for some byzantine reason?

Farmer-Rick

(10,150 posts)
23. I bet they already have
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 08:34 PM
Jul 2018

It only appears to us as if the intell agencies are going slowly but they aren't. They know exactly what is going on they just don't prosecute quickly. They want to gather everything, every where and let the enemy hang themselves. Except with Hillary's magical mystery emails, thanks a**hole Comey. The intell agencies are afterall longtime, loyal RepubliCons.

bdamomma

(63,810 posts)
21. There are intelligence agencies
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 08:11 PM
Jul 2018

in other countries, I don't think they are just sitting back watching our demise. On DU videos showed Keith Olberman May 2017 requesting for all other agencies to spill the beans, and called out to whistleblowers.

 

xeodtech

(79 posts)
11. I really hope so..
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 06:48 PM
Jul 2018

I have been waiting for the smoking gun from a patriot willing to go to jail.. I know I am.. Don't ever introduce me to trump... It would be like meeting Hitler and the decision ... would be easy...

DeminPennswoods

(15,273 posts)
14. Coats and Wray speaking out now is telling
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 07:08 PM
Jul 2018

They are directly confronting Trump's lies about Russian election interference and doing so in very public ways. I don't think that's by accident.

Caliman73

(11,726 posts)
16. I hope they don't "Strike Back" but I hope they understand that Trump is not their friend
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 07:14 PM
Jul 2018

People working in the law enforcement and intelligence agencies tend to be more conservative and pro the "status quo". What I hope they understand is that Trump has no allegiance to this country or to anything but himself and that they are able to focus on the information and evidence that they are certainly gathering.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
25. I heard Coats reiterate his position. Didn't hear Wray at all. I didn't hear "striking" back.
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 07:41 AM
Jul 2018

Just reiterating what you said before isn't "striking back" in my book, although it's brave.

George II

(67,782 posts)
18. One can only hope, but unfortunately they're patriotic Americans (unlike him) so....
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 07:46 PM
Jul 2018

....they will most likely do their jobs and leave their emotions at the door.

But I wish they WOULD retaliate.

bucolic_frolic

(43,115 posts)
20. The IC
Thu Jul 19, 2018, 08:08 PM
Jul 2018

needs to figure out how to open the mental space of the rigid minded Trumpers.

Russia is engaged in active measures to influence our voters? Why aren't we on this? Zuck won't budge? Push him into it. We have no antidote to Russian propaganda? Hard to believe. It's like we're sitting ducks and can't do anything about it. We have more measures than antivirus software and cyber secure servers. Maybe they just don't tell us what they're up to. The idea that only the liberal side of the internet does anything seems absurd to me.

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