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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsI'm no dentist, but that body language says it all.
We dont have Marina Grosss notes. We do have photographs. The moment the two men walked out of their two hour private meeting. Look at Trump in those photos. Now look at Putin.
Ушатал таки наш Президент их "богатыря".
The President of their "hero" still staggered
https://ok.ru/novayakakh/topic/68647777525973
Link to tweet
madaboutharry
(40,185 posts)ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)Cha
(296,802 posts)scolded bad.
3catwoman3
(23,944 posts)eom
ariesgem
(1,634 posts)Link to tweet
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ginnyinWI
(17,276 posts)ffr
(22,665 posts)+1
exboyfil
(17,862 posts)Maybe he actually took some during a one on one meeting. Notice our fearful leader has none.
TheCowsCameHome
(40,167 posts)eppur_se_muova
(36,247 posts)Wasn't so much fun, this time.
Hekate
(90,551 posts)...appearance of the Trojan Horse.
keithbvadu2
(36,653 posts)The best investment Putin ever made was putting money into Trump.
luvallpeeps
(935 posts)That he just slapped trump on the nose with, as though he pooped on his carpet.
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)poop on his carpet?
Butterflylady
(3,537 posts)For the Whitehouse, when he comes here in the fall he'll get the keys.
area51
(11,895 posts)keithbvadu2
(36,653 posts)Texin
(2,590 posts)edbermac
(15,933 posts)underpants
(182,603 posts)czarjak
(11,253 posts)lark
(23,061 posts)One is slumped over, looking smaller than he is, and looks like he's been beaten into shape and is now going along with the program. The other is standing very tall, smiling, at ease, looks very much large and in charge and is dragging the other out to do his will. Very vivid image here.
calimary
(81,099 posts)VERY obvious who was the Alpha.
I noticed that when they stepped onto the platform, Putin was first up, a little bit ahead of trump. Quite a contrast with the photos of The Asset with Queen Elizabeth. Putin also looked in complete command, as though hed just emerged from a very successful and satisfying encounter. He was even smiling a wee bit.
Owner, and owned.
It was crystal clear who was the Alpha up there.
Sneederbunk
(14,277 posts)Wounded Bear
(58,598 posts)appalachiablue
(41,103 posts)SunSeeker
(51,508 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)That is so perfect.
Control-Z
(15,682 posts)I've never watched Game of Thrones. But I've seen the meme a few times. Lol.
FM123
(10,053 posts)hahahaha....but Kpete, you are quite the comedian (even better than Gosar) thanks for chuckle.
Nanjeanne
(4,915 posts)Guy Whitey Corngood
(26,494 posts)windsurfing photo or the Dukakis tank image in their campaign commercials...... I don't know what else to tell them.
Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)People need to see it as much as possible. He looks totally weak, beaten in that photo. No amount of words could possibly counter what we are seeing right before our eyes.
Historic NY
(37,449 posts)I'm borrowing the dentist.
Cha
(296,802 posts)FakeNoose
(32,577 posts)I'm sure he wanted get up and leave after the first 10 minutes. But he couldn't because his "boss" forbade it.
Secondly, by the time he walked out the door, Cheeto had already forgotten most of the talking points and that's why he's lying about it now. No problem, Putin made notes and knows exactly what Cheeto said in the meeting. BUT WE DON'T!
Orsino
(37,428 posts)peekaloo
(22,977 posts)Monster will now sing and dance for world.
"Putin on the Ritz".
appalachiablue
(41,103 posts)peekaloo
(22,977 posts)appalachiablue
(41,103 posts)peekaloo
(22,977 posts)karin_sj
(808 posts)peekaloo
(22,977 posts)Judi Lynn
(160,449 posts)PatSeg
(47,259 posts)coming through that door were beaming as well. Trump looked like he shrunk several inches.
eppur_se_muova
(36,247 posts)So yeah, 45 has pretty well collapsed into himself.
PatSeg
(47,259 posts)He was hunched over like a child that had just come from the principal's office. Putin sucked all the arrogance out of him.
I noticed and commented on another 'hang dog' posture and look of this poor excuse of a potus vs Putin's ' I put this sucker down' expression and shoulders back, head up, back straight, I am victor, posture and expression, over this PODS called the American potus.
Evergreen Emerald
(13,069 posts)TheBlackAdder
(28,167 posts)Totally Tunsie
(10,885 posts)ProudLib72
(17,984 posts)and the Rump is somewhere in the middle.
DesertRat
(27,995 posts)lapfog_1
(29,191 posts)DesertRat
(27,995 posts)bucolic_frolic
(43,044 posts)I'll bet our intelligence guys are reading what's visible in those papers. But the demeanors!! Vlad looks like he just plunked down his entire fortune on the US stock market - at 1982 prices!
And Trump! Trump looks like he's just been stripped of everything he owns and someone broke a baseball bat across his lower back.
Pics are strange though, the images are fleeting. It's odd to slo-mo a video and look at the weird contortions people's faces get into, but they are fleeting. Could be same here.
DallasNE
(7,402 posts)BSdetect
(8,994 posts)LiberalArkie
(15,703 posts)Nevilledog
(51,005 posts)What proof do we have that there were not more Russians besides Putin in that meeting?
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,584 posts)Vlad the Impaler II got him but good.
appalachiablue
(41,103 posts)Great post kpete, thanx!
samnsara
(17,604 posts)obnoxiousdrunk
(2,909 posts)a KGB agent and the other a KFC agent.
Nevilledog
(51,005 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,584 posts)I don't know how exact a science body language analysis is when you get way down into the weeds like this, but it's interesting, for what it's worth.
The Blue Flower
(5,433 posts)Thanks
smirkymonkey
(63,221 posts)Interesting analysis and great website. Bookmarked site for further viewing. Thanks!
CrispyQ
(36,421 posts)They are blind to his weaknesses because they have the same ones. BTW, they are still busy posting anti-Hillary stuff.
Duppers
(28,117 posts)They are blind, among other things.
Liberalagogo
(1,770 posts)kentuck
(111,052 posts)He looks a little distant.
A picture is worth a thousand words.
Chemisse
(30,803 posts)Even a man this stupid knows what he is about to do is going to look really bad.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)by the republican #surrender in Helsinki.
Disgraceful.
CentralMass
(15,265 posts)3Hotdogs
(12,323 posts)George II
(67,782 posts)elmac
(4,642 posts)going to change his lapel pin to a Russian flag?
dalton99a
(81,391 posts)woodsprite
(11,904 posts)WhiteTara
(29,692 posts)Now that tells the whole story right there.
grantcart
(53,061 posts)That smug, pleased look on Putin's face makes me sick. When is this nightmare going to end?
jcgoldie
(11,612 posts)Igor! "Yesshhhhh mashhhterrr!
Puzzler
(2,505 posts)FFS!!!
-Puzzler
firstwife
(115 posts)Oh wait, I think Drumpf did all the swallowing in That meeting.
SummerSnow
(12,608 posts)colorado_ufo
(5,730 posts)A man with no pride left.
dixiegrrrrl
(60,010 posts)He cares about money and himself.
Now, if Putin told him something along the lines of the blackmail continuing, even after this, I would understand Trump's look.
Raven123
(4,791 posts)Pepsidog
(6,254 posts)MrModerate
(9,753 posts)Horse- or pussy-, your choice.
Grammy23
(5,810 posts)Shoulders slumped, grim/defeated expression on his face. There should be no doubt which one is the master and which one is the slave. tRump is under the thumb of Putin and has no choice but to do what Putin orders him to do. One would think that tRump could at least act confident in that situation but he knew better than to outshine Putin, thus risking further punishment. Keep your head down, dont try to steal any limelight from your boss. Make sure you look submissive.
I am no expert on body language but I think you could show this picture to anyone and they could interpret what the body language says about their relationship.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,584 posts)Grammy23
(5,810 posts)Lots of interesting/helpful information here.
Fla Dem
(23,585 posts)Trump looks totally beaten. Putin looks like he got everything that he wanted to get and a few bonuses.
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,584 posts)Putin looks like he just won the Powerball.
Haggis for Breakfast
(6,831 posts)I was beginning to think that I was the only one who took notice of his suits. They are always baggy and rumpled. Also, if you look closely, you can see that his shoulders stop before the shoulders of the suit stop, like the awful padded shoulders look from the 80s.
marieo1
(1,402 posts)Boy, this picture says it all, doesn't it? I think DJT knows it's is over for him and it is just a matter of time. It would be an eye opener if we only knew what Putin has on DJT!!
Bayard
(22,005 posts)We know tRump had no training in that area. Plus he looks like he has osteoporosis and has been sincerely threatened.
Raster
(20,998 posts)superpatriotman
(6,246 posts)Knows what's coming.
Fritz Walter
(4,290 posts)Ive seen that look: someone goes into a WPR meeting, thinking theyre going to get a Consistently Exceeds Expectations on every metric, and walks out with a Performance Development Plan, in the bosss hand, ready to file with HR.
To quote a Repuke, Womp, Womp!
dalton99a
(81,391 posts)kairos12
(12,842 posts)Vinca
(50,236 posts)he'll be the next person to "lose their balance" on a high building.
mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)what a piece of shit.
kpete
(71,959 posts)mountain grammy
(26,598 posts)renate
(13,776 posts)yonder
(9,656 posts)BlancheSplanchnik
(20,219 posts)Fatass looks like he got rode hard.
Danascot
(4,690 posts)Trump may have gotten taken to the woodshed because he didn't carry out previous orders to Putin's satisfaction - the poor performance theory.
Another - Putin gave Trump new orders to do things that gave even Trump pause and he's wondering how he can carry them out without being impeached, jailed or killed.
I think Trump already knew what kind(s) of kompromat Putin has on him, though Putin may have given him a refresher or shown him new, more horrifying material.
Maybe all three, maybe something else.
Are there pictures of Marina Gross coming out of the meeting? Did she look shocked or pale?
Midnight Writer
(21,708 posts)The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,584 posts)At that point I figure they'll do it - you don't want to wear out your ads too early.
Cha
(296,802 posts)to the woodshed and was happy to do it.
Persondem
(1,936 posts)DoctorJoJo
(1,134 posts)LuckyLib
(6,817 posts)90 second attention span, two hours would be excruciating. Cant sit still, cant focus. And now can barely remember what was discussed.
NastyRiffraff
(12,448 posts)I can almost feel sorry for...no, not really.
yonder
(9,656 posts)I wonder if Putin took advantage of tRump's notoriously short attention span and forced the meeting longer than scheduled just for this result. It's probably the first time in goldboy's life he's had to endure such a long one on one -- I think I know who was on who.
Initech
(100,034 posts)AllyCat
(16,140 posts)am I the only one annoyed by his pecker duster ties?
True Blue American
(17,981 posts)I saw that. Putin is cock of the walk, strutting, smirking. Trump is shambling along as if he is not sure what hit him.
Sources are now saying Mueller will get the transcripts.
Notice, Putin has papers and notes in his hand, Trump has nothing. His statements read as if Putin wrote them. John Kelly usually does, but there is no way Kelly wrote that praise of Putin!