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Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 12:06 PM Jul 2018

Play Cohen's recording on TV and it'll blow over even more quickly than the Access Hollywood tape.

Trump supporters will cheer further confirmation that their cult leader has sex with models, Republicans in Congress will dismiss it as irrelevant (if they gave a damn about Trump breaking laws or lying, Trump would have been gone long ago), and the mainstream media will quickly move on to the next horror.

I'm not being cynical. I'm just stating what is pretty obvious based on the last 3 years of Trump stories/scandals.

It's all about November, folks.

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Play Cohen's recording on TV and it'll blow over even more quickly than the Access Hollywood tape. (Original Post) Garrett78 Jul 2018 OP
When nothing seems to help... DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #1
Amen to that. OnDoutside Jul 2018 #5
Great quote - thanks karynnj Jul 2018 #7
You're welcome. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #9
Thanks, that does help PatSeg Jul 2018 #17
They think it's glamorous - They want to be like Donald Trump dalton99a Jul 2018 #2
Well, they aren't Deplorable for nuthin. DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #6
I'm taking it as the slippery slope of leaks. A sign of things to come that will eventually R B Garr Jul 2018 #3
+1 dalton99a Jul 2018 #8
The fact that he lies so much is why another lie won't make any difference. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #14
Patience grasshopper. The FBI has to make sure all their bases are covered R B Garr Jul 2018 #16
It's entirely possible that Mueller will prove his case and it won't matter. See this: Garrett78 Jul 2018 #18
Trump will always have his base, and the same with the Fox News base, R B Garr Jul 2018 #25
My hope is that these bits of news help our side GOTV. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #26
What could leak that they would care about? oberliner Jul 2018 #28
LOL, sorry, but your question doesn't look so serious, i.e., R B Garr Jul 2018 #30
Seems like it'd be hard to top the Access Hollywood tape oberliner Jul 2018 #32
Nor did it remain a story for very long. Because there's always another horror around the corner. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #33
Evan McMullin spoke about this tonight on The Last Word: Garrett78 Jul 2018 #36
Well the Pussygate tape would have done him in, but for Comey's intervention. The one I want a tape OnDoutside Jul 2018 #4
Just play/quote it along side of his, and his defenders, numerous denials. Loop it. Make it a song. Freethinker65 Jul 2018 #10
The hypocrisy of evangelicals has been pointed out over and over and over and over and over again. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #20
This message was self-deleted by its author kcr Jul 2018 #11
I think Mueller is more interested in how it plays in court. Not to mention, apples oranges. MrsCoffee Jul 2018 #12
Trump is actively breaking numerous laws and has a long history of doing so. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #15
And the leaks will keep coming ScratchCat Jul 2018 #13
Don't confuse polling data with the protocols of federal investigations. LanternWaste Jul 2018 #19
This is my concern: Garrett78 Jul 2018 #21
I hear you. Zoonart Jul 2018 #27
+1,000 malaise Jul 2018 #22
The tape may contain evidence of conspiracy etc BSdetect Jul 2018 #23
Yes, he should have been...but he wasn't. Garrett78 Jul 2018 #24
It certainly is. Boomerproud Jul 2018 #31
This one is a felony. Kingofalldems Jul 2018 #29
no, this isn't about sex bigtree Jul 2018 #34
Somewhere McConnell's moving a goalpost Blue Owl Jul 2018 #35

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
3. I'm taking it as the slippery slope of leaks. A sign of things to come that will eventually
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 12:09 PM
Jul 2018

bury him. He lies so much in public, this looks like the beginnings of the comeuppance so when the FBI finally gets everything out, there will be no way to counter it.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
14. The fact that he lies so much is why another lie won't make any difference.
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 12:15 PM
Jul 2018

Thousands of lies have been documented, so every new lie gets lost in the sea of lies.

And breaking the law is also nothing new. Trump is violating federal records law, the emoluments clause, Sabraw's court order, the Flores Settlement, he ran a fake university, he's committed and bragged openly about sexual assault, and on and on and on.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
16. Patience grasshopper. The FBI has to make sure all their bases are covered
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 12:24 PM
Jul 2018

so he has no way out. Congress won't hold him accountable, and there are probably many layers to the money laundering and campaign violations that the leaks are also a warning to others, not just Trump.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
25. Trump will always have his base, and the same with the Fox News base,
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 12:46 PM
Jul 2018

but that's why these strategic leaks will help with public opinion. I also took this leak as a warning to others that Mueller is looking at the Americans involved now, not just the Russians.

I haven't read that whole article you linked, have to go, but will read later.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
26. My hope is that these bits of news help our side GOTV.
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 12:51 PM
Jul 2018

And that maybe they will suppress Republican efforts to do the same.

But I'm not convinced these stories do that, partly because they don't remain in the public consciousness. Most people don't follow politics or current events the way we all on DU do. And the mainstream media will soon move on to the next horror. We've seen this happen time and time again.

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
30. LOL, sorry, but your question doesn't look so serious, i.e.,
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 12:55 PM
Jul 2018

look to the mad scramble for cover ups.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
32. Seems like it'd be hard to top the Access Hollywood tape
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 01:00 PM
Jul 2018

Which, as it turned out, wasn't enough to deter his voters.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
36. Evan McMullin spoke about this tonight on The Last Word:
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 11:35 PM
Jul 2018

The entire panel discussion (last 8 minutes) is worthy of discussion and McMullin's portion I'm referencing starts at around the 35:40 mark:

OnDoutside

(19,948 posts)
4. Well the Pussygate tape would have done him in, but for Comey's intervention. The one I want a tape
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 12:09 PM
Jul 2018

of is Summer Zervos, which brings in abortion.

Freethinker65

(9,999 posts)
10. Just play/quote it along side of his, and his defenders, numerous denials. Loop it. Make it a song.
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 12:14 PM
Jul 2018

Ridicule the fuck out of anyone that believes a word from this narcissistic asshole or those defending him.

Nail those fucking evangelicals and their Trump prayer circles. Nail the family values GOP members. Hell, I would even ask Melania about it as they did Hillary about Genifer Flowers.

Response to Garrett78 (Original post)

MrsCoffee

(5,801 posts)
12. I think Mueller is more interested in how it plays in court. Not to mention, apples oranges.
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 12:14 PM
Jul 2018

One is a braggart bragging about his ability to harass women consequence free, the other is hard evidence of a cover-up.




Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
15. Trump is actively breaking numerous laws and has a long history of doing so.
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 12:18 PM
Jul 2018

I fail to see how adding one more to the list will be the straw that breaks Republicans.

ScratchCat

(1,977 posts)
13. And the leaks will keep coming
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 12:15 PM
Jul 2018

He taped everything. You'll have this, Daniels, Bechard and "Jane Doe" rape accuser being discussed. And who knows what else.... All made during the campaign and he will be stuck trying to argue it had nothing to do with the election but everything to do with a pre-nup with Melania.

Again, they're done with him - the people who matter, that is.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
19. Don't confuse polling data with the protocols of federal investigations.
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 12:33 PM
Jul 2018

Many things are about November. Many things are not. Ignoring the second set is irrational behavior.

Investigations often take place on a different schedule than we may desire. Patience is a powerful tool in avoiding knee-jerk reactions.

BSdetect

(8,995 posts)
23. The tape may contain evidence of conspiracy etc
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 12:41 PM
Jul 2018

He ought to have been arrested on so many charges long ago.

Garrett78

(10,721 posts)
24. Yes, he should have been...but he wasn't.
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 12:44 PM
Jul 2018

He should have been laughed right out of the race the moment he came down the escalator. But he wasn't.

This is a very, very sick society.

Boomerproud

(7,941 posts)
31. It certainly is.
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 12:58 PM
Jul 2018

Patience is not called for when deregulation is happening every day and peoples rights are being trampled.

bigtree

(85,975 posts)
34. no, this isn't about sex
Fri Jul 20, 2018, 01:08 PM
Jul 2018

...it's about illegal campaign contributions in the form of these payments to the model.

The salacious part keeps it in the news.


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