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I use a straw because I do not want to get herpes (Original Post) pbmus Jul 2018 OP
Sorry but I have to ask Phoenix61 Jul 2018 #1
Here.. pbmus Jul 2018 #3
I know what herpes is Phoenix61 Jul 2018 #9
I eat out often....more than most people....glasses are some of the least well washed pbmus Jul 2018 #14
All dishes in a restaurant go through the Phoenix61 Jul 2018 #18
Have you looked behind a bar where they wash glasses? pbmus Jul 2018 #21
There is supposed to be sterilizer in there Phoenix61 Jul 2018 #25
You spend a lot of time in bars? Tipperary Jul 2018 #36
Damn..they wipe the tables with their clothes where you are? Captain Stern Jul 2018 #35
Damn spell check Phoenix61 Jul 2018 #37
LOL! murielm99 Jul 2018 #52
Buy bottled water. Blue_true Jul 2018 #40
A thread that started with a stat about ocean plastic waste NickB79 Jul 2018 #42
I keep and recycle my bottles. Plus, many times, the bottles are glass. Blue_true Jul 2018 #57
No, don't. SMC22307 Jul 2018 #56
See my reply to the other poster. Blue_true Jul 2018 #58
Sorry... Still Not Getting It Leith Jul 2018 #10
Straw enid602 Jul 2018 #38
I'm not convinced getting a cold sore on my ass is better Major Nikon Jul 2018 #45
you can't get herpes from sharing drinks and meals. N/T FreeState Jul 2018 #12
That's exactly how you get herpes that causes cold sores. LisaL Jul 2018 #43
No, you get herpes from skin to skin contact Major Nikon Jul 2018 #47
No that's misinformation FreeState Jul 2018 #50
Never share your can. Throck Jul 2018 #30
Keep a reusable with you at all times. greyl Jul 2018 #2
That's not how math works n/t FreeState Jul 2018 #4
There are options. silverweb Jul 2018 #5
Some folks are too entitled for all that, apparently BannonsLiver Jul 2018 #7
Some. silverweb Jul 2018 #13
And some truly need plastic straws Ms. Toad Jul 2018 #44
An exception could be made. silverweb Jul 2018 #48
Unfortunately, Ms. Toad Jul 2018 #49
Hopefully there will be lawsuits. EllieBC Jul 2018 #54
Have you looked into the issues for people with disabilities? EllieBC Jul 2018 #53
I bought a small box of straws over 5 years ago FakeNoose Jul 2018 #55
Didn't there used to be paper straws of some sort? Ilsa Jul 2018 #6
There still are.... Little Star Jul 2018 #11
As a child in the 50s and 60s all we had were paper straws. badhair77 Jul 2018 #8
+1 Should have never changed to plastic. Little Star Jul 2018 #15
I can hardly wait till they make a comeback Hekate Jul 2018 #19
And they always went flat and useless under the terrific suction ... JustABozoOnThisBus Jul 2018 #20
Lots of options. nolabear Jul 2018 #16
+1 Little Star Jul 2018 #17
Yeah, my health food store sells compostable straws. NBachers Jul 2018 #22
I have thinning tooth-enamel and straws are a help with iced drinks. Paper straws would be great... Hekate Jul 2018 #23
Ban them all. I, personally, can't do much about the fishing nets. But the water bottles, Squinch Jul 2018 #24
I haven't used a straw in years, unless PoindexterOglethorpe Jul 2018 #26
Well, for goodness' sake, don't kiss anyone without MineralMan Jul 2018 #27
Lol, I know, right? Tipperary Jul 2018 #33
Several restaurant chains have switced to decomposing paper straws wishstar Jul 2018 #28
Ban plastic straws and only the bad guys will have plastic straws. Sneederbunk Jul 2018 #29
Except in "stand your ground" states, where you will be able to stab the bad guy carrying a straw... madinmaryland Jul 2018 #34
Plastic straws are being banned in many locales. Totally Tunsie Jul 2018 #31
. NCTraveler Jul 2018 #32
Sounds like a straw man argument. n/t sl8 Jul 2018 #39
Oh good grief! Texasgal Jul 2018 #41
I know. Some of the stuff I read here amazes me. Tipperary Jul 2018 #46
Agreed. It is sad. N/t FSogol Jul 2018 #51
Oh FFS!!!! nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2018 #59

Phoenix61

(17,001 posts)
9. I know what herpes is
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 02:28 PM
Jul 2018

I'm confused about why you think a straw will decrease your risk of getting it.

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
14. I eat out often....more than most people....glasses are some of the least well washed
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 02:35 PM
Jul 2018

Utensil in any kitchen....

Is a cold sore contagious?

Cold sores are most contagious when oozing blisters are present. But you can transmit the virus to others even if you don't have blisters. Shared eating utensils, razors and towels, as well as kissing, may spread HSV-1. Oral sex can spread HSV-1 to the genitals and HSV-2 to the lips.Jun 8, 2018

Phoenix61

(17,001 posts)
18. All dishes in a restaurant go through the
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 02:50 PM
Jul 2018

same washer. It's actually more of a sterilizer than a dish washer. Between the heat and the chemicals everything dies. But I get it. Everybody has something. I won't set silver ware on a restaurant table. I always put it on a napkin. The clothes they use to wipe tables can get pretty disgusting by the end of a shift.

pbmus

(12,422 posts)
21. Have you looked behind a bar where they wash glasses?
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 02:54 PM
Jul 2018

That is not sterilizer....it is a wash basin tub with a few brushes....swish, swish...and set the glass up to drip dry....and serve another beer

I often get a glass with some red stuff on it...

But I still will not drink my beer thru a straw...

Phoenix61

(17,001 posts)
25. There is supposed to be sterilizer in there
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 03:12 PM
Jul 2018

The health dept checks when they come through, however, I wouldn't count on all bars doing it correctly. So yeah, bar glasses may not be as clean as they should be. I've got it easy, strictly a beer girl and rarely, if ever, drink draft. The red stuff is lipstick. Amazingly, it doesn't stick to lips but damn sure sticks to glass. Pain in the tush if you are a bar tender.

Captain Stern

(2,201 posts)
35. Damn..they wipe the tables with their clothes where you are?
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 05:35 PM
Jul 2018

That's pretty damned disgusting, regardless of which point of their shift it is.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
40. Buy bottled water.
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 09:19 PM
Jul 2018

When I eat out, I either use a disposable paper cup to drink from, or I order sealed bottled water. I NEVER drink from a glass or other reuseable container when I eat out.

NickB79

(19,233 posts)
42. A thread that started with a stat about ocean plastic waste
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 11:06 AM
Jul 2018

Ends up with an encouragement to use more single-use plastic bottles.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
58. See my reply to the other poster.
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 07:28 PM
Jul 2018

They are a problem if people just throw the fucking bottles away or don't choose glass bottled water.

Leith

(7,809 posts)
10. Sorry... Still Not Getting It
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 02:30 PM
Jul 2018

How do straws prevent herpes?

I could go for using paper straws instead of plastic. I love using a straw.

enid602

(8,613 posts)
38. Straw
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 08:04 PM
Jul 2018

You stick the straw up your ass and then ingest the beverage. You won't get those embarrassing cold sores.

LisaL

(44,973 posts)
43. That's exactly how you get herpes that causes cold sores.
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 11:10 AM
Jul 2018

From sharing drinks, meals with those who are infected.
Look it up.

Major Nikon

(36,827 posts)
47. No, you get herpes from skin to skin contact
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 12:00 PM
Jul 2018

You do not get herpes from sharing meals with those who are infected. While it might be theoretically possible to get it from a glass used by someone who is infected, there's exactly zero documented cases of this ever happening. The mechanism required for this to happen makes it extremely unlikely, kinda like sharing a toilet seat with someone who has an STD. It's a lot more of an urban myth than reality.

FreeState

(10,570 posts)
50. No that's misinformation
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 02:10 PM
Jul 2018
https://www.plannedparenthood.org/learn/teens/ask-experts/can-herpes-be-spread-through-sharing-food-and-drinks


Can herpes be spread through sharing drinks and meals? Does a reoccuring painless rough patch on the lip an indicator of herpes?

No, you can’t get herpes from sharing drinks and meals.

Herpes is spread by touching, kissing, and sexual contact, including vaginal, anal, and oral sex. It can be passed from one partner to another and from one part of the body to another. Brief skin-to-skin contact is all that’s needed to pass the virus. Because herpes may have no symptoms for years, sometimes it is very difficult to know who passed it to whom.

Although it’s rare, genital herpes can also be spread from a pregnant woman to her baby during vaginal birth.

BannonsLiver

(16,369 posts)
7. Some folks are too entitled for all that, apparently
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 02:27 PM
Jul 2018

Fuck the planet as long as they get the kind of straws they want.

Ms. Toad

(34,060 posts)
44. And some truly need plastic straws
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 11:43 AM
Jul 2018
https://www.google.com/amp/s/amp.cnn.com/cnn/2018/07/11/health/plastic-straw-bans-disabled-trnd/index.html

I have a few friends with cerebral palsy. They would bite through paper, shatter teeth on metal, burn themselves on steel straws drinking hot beverages, not to mention making it more likely they would spill the beverage and burn themselves directly, or injure themselves on any rigid straw.

Absolute bans will add to the challenges that individuals with physical disabilities already face in attempting to do the things the rest of us take for granted - like eating out occasionally.

It's not always about being selfish or ignorant.

silverweb

(16,402 posts)
48. An exception could be made.
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 12:27 PM
Jul 2018

It's common for "loopholes" to be inserted in a bill for such exceptions.

Ms. Toad

(34,060 posts)
49. Unfortunately,
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 01:57 PM
Jul 2018

most places considering bans are not inserting the loopholes, and when it is individual businesses making the decision - they wouldn't be required to provide plastic straws (not to mention that it is a monumental task to locate and lobby each individual business.)

Which means one more thing poeple with physical disabilities who need this particular accommodation will need to plan for in advance of an outing most of us take for granted.

And there is a fair amount of demonization of anyone who uses plastic straws (as selfish, not caring about the planet, petty, etc.). Just read through this thread - or any other thread on the issue.

EllieBC

(3,013 posts)
54. Hopefully there will be lawsuits.
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 03:34 PM
Jul 2018

I know people with disabilities are not on the radar of do-gooders but a few lawsuits will fix things.

EllieBC

(3,013 posts)
53. Have you looked into the issues for people with disabilities?
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 03:31 PM
Jul 2018

Re-usable straws aren't an option for those with compromised immune systems because they often cannot get them clean.

Steel isn't an option for anyone with tremors. Paper and bamboo can become choking hazards.

I get that no one wants to actually do anything useful to help the environment and just wants to go for the easy kills like plastic straws, but it actually impacts a lot of disable people and they actually do fucking matter regardless what a lot of environmentalists think.

FakeNoose

(32,630 posts)
55. I bought a small box of straws over 5 years ago
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 03:45 PM
Jul 2018

... and I'm still using them. There's no reason they can't be rinsed out and re-used, which I do on a daily basis.

I carry a few spare straws in my pocketbook (it's easier to do if you're a woman) and I am never without my own straw. Another thing is that nobody else uses them so I'm only coming in contact with my own germs, if any. The straws don't need to be sterilized after use, just rinsed out and allowed to dry. These are coffee straws I'm talking about, the kind for hot beverages, but they also work for cold drinks in a pinch.

Ilsa

(61,694 posts)
6. Didn't there used to be paper straws of some sort?
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 02:26 PM
Jul 2018

Maybe they had a thin veneer of wax on them. I don't know if that's any better, though.

JustABozoOnThisBus

(23,338 posts)
20. And they always went flat and useless under the terrific suction ...
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 02:54 PM
Jul 2018

... of a cold milk shake. Useless. Today's plastic straws are superior construction.

Diseases can still be passed along, if the straws are shared for drinking or snorting. Be careful out there.

Hekate

(90,643 posts)
23. I have thinning tooth-enamel and straws are a help with iced drinks. Paper straws would be great...
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 03:10 PM
Jul 2018

I have been horrified at what plastic straws do to wildlife

Squinch

(50,949 posts)
24. Ban them all. I, personally, can't do much about the fishing nets. But the water bottles,
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 03:11 PM
Jul 2018

plastic shopping bags, take out containers, drinking straws, polyester clothing? ALL of those, I can do something about.

It takes a lot of getting used to. The clothes are my newest project. All new clothes are cotton, linen, wool or hemp. It's not easy.

PoindexterOglethorpe

(25,841 posts)
26. I haven't used a straw in years, unless
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 03:15 PM
Jul 2018

I'm on a long drive and have purchased a soft drink for the ride.

Haven't gotten herpes or any other terrible disease. What do you suppose I'm doing wrong?

wishstar

(5,268 posts)
28. Several restaurant chains have switced to decomposing paper straws
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 03:19 PM
Jul 2018

so no need to use plastic or risk germs/viruses from rim of glasses

madinmaryland

(64,931 posts)
34. Except in "stand your ground" states, where you will be able to stab the bad guy carrying a straw...
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 05:33 PM
Jul 2018

with a straw.

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
31. Plastic straws are being banned in many locales.
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 04:50 PM
Jul 2018

[link:https://www.fastcompany.com/40580132/here-are-the-u-s-cities-that-have-banned-plastic-straws-so-far|


While many individual businesses, nonprofits, and schools have opted to ban straws, here are the cities and states that are tackling the issue:
▪New York City, Hawaii, and California have pending straw ban legislation.
▪California: Alameda, Carmel, San Luis Obispo, Davis, Malibu, Manhattan Beach, Oakland, Richmond, and Berkeley
▪Washington: Seattle and Edmonds
▪New Jersey: Monmouth Beach
▪Florida: Miami Beach and Fort Myers


Many more coming.















Texasgal

(17,043 posts)
41. Oh good grief!
Sat Jul 21, 2018, 11:07 PM
Jul 2018

The whole issue is to go back to paper straws and not plastic as they are worse for our environment!

No worries about your herpes,,, use a freaking PAPER straw! UGH.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
46. I know. Some of the stuff I read here amazes me.
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 11:49 AM
Jul 2018

We really cannot call the repubs morons when we have them right here amp get us. Not specifically the op, mind you, but there are some doozie posts here lol.

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