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Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 10:18 PM Jul 2018

WAS TRUMP ACTIVELY RECRUITED BY RUSSIA?

We now know that tRump had assistance and sponsorship of the Russian government in his quest to be president. Rather than that being an after effect where Vlad and Co. saw the opportunity to blackmail the idiot candidate after tRump announced his candidacy, what are the chances that tRump was actively recruited and blackmailed to become a candidate in the first place? What if he were approached by Russia to put himself in place to repay the debts he owed to Russia by becoming president? In other words, which came first...the candidacy or the interference?

We're hearing that Russian spy Maria Butina was already in action here in the U.S. as early as 2011 as she was traveling between Russia and the US with her mentor, Aleksandr Torshin in an effort to establish and promote the Right to Bear Arms organizational lobby. Torshin became deputy governor of the Central Bank of Russia in January 2015, and she was his special assistant. Coincidence that he was a banking official?

tRump's ride down the golden escalator was on June 16, 2015.

Call me crazy or conspiratorial, but I'm beginning to believe tRump had no choice in becoming a candidate...he was placed there by Vlad from the very beginning.

Your thoughts, please.

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nancy1942

(635 posts)
1. Makes as much sense as anything else.
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 10:28 PM
Jul 2018

He certainly behaves like it
He is performing his job as though his life depends on it.

JI7

(89,241 posts)
5. no. he got involved with them because of corrupt business practices
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 10:37 PM
Jul 2018

so they had stuff on him they could blackmail him with

Quixote1818

(28,919 posts)
6. Considering what he was doing to Obama he has probably been working for them for years
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 10:40 PM
Jul 2018

probably since the 2013 Mrs. Universe pageant in Russia when they probably caught him on camera doing something. Him becoming President just worked out for Russia WAY, WAY, WAY, WAY beyond what they ever could have hoped for.

sarah FAILIN

(2,857 posts)
7. My husband told me about an NPR interview about this
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 10:44 PM
Jul 2018

It was the reporter that gave up her source to Mueller and she was talking about how far back Trump had been recruited. He came in boiling that day and he is a very moderate person that can roll rep on some issues. He hates Trump.

 

tonyt53

(5,737 posts)
8. Yep, but it had an accidental beginning. At first they wanted a willing partner in money laundering.
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 10:48 PM
Jul 2018

After the that, the rest fell into place. One of those "happy accidents".

blitzen

(4,572 posts)
9. Manafort, Roger Stone and Trump go back a along way...
Sun Jul 22, 2018, 11:32 PM
Jul 2018

they were thinking of a Trump presidency way back in the late 80s. The Documentary "Get Me Roger Stone" on Netflix makes it clear that this has been brewing for a long time. Given Manafort's long ties to Russia, I would bet that "actively recruited" is pretty accurate.

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