Friend or relative, if you voted for Trump but detest him now, I forgive you for your past naivety

[mtnsnake]

but if you STILL support him, then you are simply beyond any hope.

If you still support Trump, then you are either a disgusting racist or you are as heartless as Trump himself, and I don't want anything to do with you ever again.

If you STILL support Trump after all he's said and done, then I don't ever want to have ANYTHING to do with you because anyone who still supports Trump has proved beyond a shadow of a doubt that they are more than just ignorant or brainwashed. They are just as despicable a human being as Donald Trump is, PERIOD.

I don't want to have lunch or coffee with you ever again.

I don't ever want to play golf, go shopping, share a recipe, go fishing, go walking, or share any interests with you again.

I don't ever want to listen to you always telling me how Trump doesn't lie with your bizarre justifications for him.

I don't ever want you pulling my chain with your idiotic comments about how Trump is good and Obama is bad.

I don't want to be within earshot of you at any future family reunions.

I don't ever want to listen to your bullshit spin about how Trump is good for the middle class or the economy.

I don't ever again want to communicate with you via email, facebook, messaging, phoning, or talking.

I don't even want to exchange pleasantries with you, should we cross paths in the supermarket.

I hope you get the message, asshole, that if you still support Trump, then you are no longer worth a precious second of my time, period.

[oberliner]

1. All the Trump voters I know are still behind him

And I think they always will be.

Do you know any Trump voters who don't support him anymore?

If so, what got them to change?

[mtnsnake]

2. To answer your question

Yes, I do know some Trump voters who no longer support him. What got those folks to change is simple. They realize they were fooled by him during the campaign. No one likes to get fooled.

[oberliner]

3. Is there something in particular that made them realize they were fooled?

What was the moment where it turned?

[ProfessorGAC]

12. I Know A Few

But, to be fair, i think they had an irrational hatred of HRC, so they didn't so much vote for the buffoon as against HRC.

They now realize that was a mistake. These are still mostly R types, but lean more libertarian and aren't the RWNJ/Christian Right types.

Quite frankly, if they knew then what they know now, they either would have stayed home, or would have voted for the "lesser of 2 evils" thing.

That said, in Illinois, their votes either way would not have changed the outcome.

[mtnsnake]

14. I think you are spot on

and I think many of those people who voted for Trump mainly because of their hatred for Hillary are now regretting their blatant mistake. At least I hope to hell they are.

[jcgoldie]

15. I agree

That's because all of this shit he's said and done could have been predicted 2 years ago. It's not like anyone was blindsided by who he is. If they voted for him despite that then that's who they are.

[Frustratedlady]

4. In my camp, it is too early to forgive if they are now sorry they voted for him.

We have way too much to clean up after he is gone and if they hadn't voted for him, it wouldn't be necessary.

Once we have returned the U.S. to its BT condition, I'll sit down and contemplate forgiveness. Until then, they'll just have to squirm.

[Wounded Bear]

5. I have a family member in that camp...

he's genuinely remorseful.

[mtnsnake]

7. Same here. It's what prompted me to post

A cousin of mine expressed his "remorse" about voting for Trump at a very recent family get together. The rest of us were shocked to hear that he voted for Trump in the first place, but we were glad to hear that he has seen the light. He said he voted for Trump because he thought Trump would restore jobs to the Midwest. When he told us that, we all jumped on him for his blatant naivety and told him how dumb he was for voting for someone as despicable as Trump, but we did forgive him, kind of, for his stupidity.

OTOH, I just told a frequent coffee acquaintance that I will no longer get together with him for coffee or anything else because he still supports Trump. I wasn't rude when I gave him that message, but I just told him I cannot put up with listening to anyone praise Donald Trump. He acted totally surprised. Too bad for him.

[dalton99a]

6. Anyone who still supports the traitor at this point is beyond redemption

We just have to GOTV and outnumber them

[mtnsnake]

10. Exactly. Anyone who still supports him is now beyond any hope

If they still support him now, then it means they will always support him, and if that's the case, then it proves to me that they are as despicable a person as Donald Trump himself.

The only good thing about this, but only in a personal sense, is that it exposes the real assholes in your "neighborhood" and let's you know that you don't want these people in your life no matter what. I recently ran into a local shop owner in the parking lot of his store and noticed he still has a Make America Great bumper sticker on his car. I had no idea and was blown away. I'll never shop at his place again.

[Hayduke Bomgarte]

8. I don't, CAN'T, forgive those cretins

For their past naivety. I, along with many others started warning them early on in the primaries. They pretty much told me to go fuck myself. Now it's my turn tell tell them to fuck off. I'll never forget nor forgive what they did. I take great pleasure seeing some of them realize they screwed, not only themselves, but the rest of us too. I don't care if they're sorry now. They should have thought it through, rather than allow the likes of faux snooze dictate the opinions they embraced. Being sorry and having regrets doesn't erase the fact that they were racists, homophobes, sexists and misogynists, and still are.

[mtnsnake]

13. I think whether or not to forgive depends on why they voted for Trump in the first place

and whether or not they are now sorry for their vote.

If they voted because of the reasons you stated, for being racists, homophobes, sexists and misogynists, then they surely are going to still support Trump no matter what. Those assholes will always be assholes an there is no hope for them.

OTOH, if they voted for Trump for the reasons such as what poster #9 stated, and if they are sorry for their mistake, then there is hope for them and we need their votes.

[brewens]

9. I only know one that comes right out and says it. He wasn't a dedicated Republican in the

first place though. He's a biker dude that works the oil fields. He was convinced that no one else running, Republicans or Hillary, would really do much for us, but that Trump just might. He was never loaded up on the Trump kool-aid in the first place.

I can only say that several of my Republican friends on FB are pretty quiet these days. I'd be willing to bet that they are embarrassed, but still glad they got him because of the SCOTUS. Now they don't want to say much, because they are afraid the whole party might go down if everyone turns on Trump. They are just hoping it works out somehow.

[mtnsnake]

11. I'm really glad you posted that

That was the same reasoning, almost word for word, that my cousin used when he tried to justify why he voted for Trump. How naive he was!