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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsIs the "Steele Dossier" more credible or less credible..?
...than when first made public?
As months have gone by, it seems that more and more material in the dossier has been proven to be true. More and more details have been shown to be factual.
In my opinion, it is difficult to discredit the research that was done by the former British Intel agent, Christopher Steele.
With passing time, it looks more and more credible.
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)it's gotten more credible over time - I believe just about everything has been proven to be true outside of the pee pee tape, though I have not seen additional confirmation of the story that Mueller had pictures of Michael Cohen meeting Russian agents in Prague.
Gothmog
(145,168 posts)Response to NewJeffCT (Reply #1)
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onecaliberal
(32,850 posts)BumRushDaShow
(128,905 posts)(he is co-founder of the Democratic Coalition)
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.we had professors-fmr military-research scientists & elected officials sign a letter authenticating our trump dossier analysis #trumprussia
Scott Dworkin
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.Here's the Trump Dossier Analysis. Please RT & share far & wide 🇺🇸🔥#trumprussia #russiagate #resist #firesessions https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RbpBxJ3QNyvts_w16UcSSGeH7cSrXK9U3wIq0OOq-Xs
10:29 PM - Mar 2, 2017
It would be interesting to even revisit it based on where we are now. Link to the analysis Feb. 2017 - https://docs.google.com/document/d/1RbpBxJ3QNyvts_w16UcSSGeH7cSrXK9U3wIq0OOq-Xs/edit
FakeNoose
(32,634 posts)When will we see the full un-redacted version of the Steele dossier? Obviously the FBI has it, and I would guess the original "customer" who ordered the report and paid Steele for it. Somebody has the original, when are they going to leak it to us?
duforsure
(11,885 posts)In the dossier that I've heard of.
Wounded Bear
(58,648 posts)For one thing, there really isn't any credible reason for Steele to falsify the report.
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Tommy_Carcetti
(43,181 posts)Which is why McFaul was targeted by the Russians last week.
Gothmog
(145,168 posts)A significant amount of the dossier has been verified http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/jurisprudence/2017/09/a_lot_of_the_steele_dossier_has_since_been_corroborated.html
As things stand, both investigators and voters will have to examine the information in their possession and make sense of it as best they can. Professional investigators can marry the report with human and signals intelligence, they can look at call records, travel records, interview people mentioned in the report, solicit assistance from friendly foreign police and intelligence services, subpoena records and tie it to subsequent events that can shed light on the various details. We, on the other hand, will have to do our best to validate the information at hand. Looking at new information through the framework outlined in the Steele document is not a bad place to start
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H2O Man
(73,536 posts)LeftInTX
(25,288 posts)Maybe Trump said that he thought it would be funny if hookers peed on the Obama's bed. (Said out of spite for Obama)
Even if the hookers peed on the bed, (more of an act of vandalism and aggression than anything) I think at the most, Trump sat in a chair and watched. After they peed, Trump left the room as soon as they left. No way would Trump stay in a room with pee. I don't think Trump would let hookers pee on him. Trump is too much of a germaphobe.
There is also no way Trump would get in the same bed that the Obama's had slept in.
I don't know how often hotels change mattresses, but Trump would probably have an idea if the mattress in the room was the same as the Obama's. If the hotel had changed the mattress, why would Trump want to have it peed on? Also Trump always wants to publicly humiliate Obama. Were prostitutes peeing an act of public humiliation? Was this incident spread throughout the region to humiliate President Obama over there?
Unfortunately, the pee stuff became the focus of the dossier.
OnDoutside
(19,956 posts)As with the rest of the "dossier" nothing has been disproven, and it's probably best not to be conclusive over someone who is utterly amoral.
H2O Man
(73,536 posts)Thus far, much of it has proven to be correct, and none of it has been proven false.
On a side note, regarding the possible "pee tape" .....too many people, including here on this forum, have a clue about what it actually claims to entail. This includes remaining ignorant of what Trump was definitely doing earlier that night, where and with whom, and thus what the tape may actually show.