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Roland99

(53,342 posts)
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 08:33 PM Jul 2018

Putin's daughter, Trump Tower internet traffic, Spectrum Health, Betsy DeVos

Is this a story?? I haven’t heard of this link before and I saw this posted elsewhere but no citations.


Mariya Putin, Vlads eldest daughter just so happens to run a children's endocrinology charity, guess who specializes in endocrinology?

Spectrum Health of Michigan.

The same site that all the computer traffic was going to and from Trump Tower and Alfa Bank of Russia.

Spectrum Health is owned by Betsy Devos.
That, ladies and gentlemen is called an implausible coincidence.

Devos didn't get a cabinet position because she was qualified (an understatement)! She got that job because she's right smack in the middle of all this!

They used her companies computer servers to communicate with the Russians and they thought no one would notice! I'm sure she's terrified right about now.

If we all know what she did you can best be sure Robert Mueller knows what she did.
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Putin's daughter, Trump Tower internet traffic, Spectrum Health, Betsy DeVos (Original Post) Roland99 Jul 2018 OP
Found this htuttle Jul 2018 #1
Brilliant thinking. Sophia4 Jul 2018 #4
Tea Pain is pretty accurate, I have found. n/t dixiegrrrrl Jul 2018 #54
And this, from a more known source htuttle Jul 2018 #2
This second link from Dec 2016 didn't mention Putin's daughter htuttle Jul 2018 #3
Putin's older daughter: a specialist in biomedical science Roland99 Jul 2018 #6
It keeps coming back to Putin and the Oligarchs, doesn't it? n/t dixiegrrrrl Jul 2018 #55
Sounds like a horrible band name of middle aged stockbrokers Roland99 Jul 2018 #56
Nice catch! RVN VET71 Jul 2018 #58
The Putin link is news to me TheRealNorth Jul 2018 #5
Just amazing how coincidences follow these people around. Just how big is this web? Amaryllis Jul 2018 #7
Everytime a leaf is turned over, there is a Russian under it. nt Blue_true Jul 2018 #24
Thanks for the info canetoad Jul 2018 #8
Sigint imaginary girl Jul 2018 #11
Thank you! canetoad Jul 2018 #12
Can you provide more light on this? triron Jul 2018 #22
Link imaginary girl Jul 2018 #32
I have been following Louise M. on her blog. GemDigger Jul 2018 #26
Yep, same here. The_jackalope Jul 2018 #37
Their loss of factual news. GemDigger Jul 2018 #41
Let's not forget the DeVos' brother, Erik Prince's meeting in the Seychelles. alwaysinasnit Jul 2018 #9
And if that medical database was crossreferenced for information Volaris Jul 2018 #10
HIPAA (not HIPPA) is enforced by HHS/CMS which is misguided by the current putos (POTUS). erronis Jul 2018 #44
Thank you for the correction; Volaris Jul 2018 #45
I wonder if this would be of interest to Rachel Maddow? elmac Jul 2018 #13
Check post #14! LAS14 Jul 2018 #15
Wo! This post sounds like a Rachel show!! LAS14 Jul 2018 #14
I'm thinking that Comcast may not let her elmac Jul 2018 #18
This story (at least the internet traffic and trump domains) has been known a while Roland99 Jul 2018 #38
Yep, there are too big to fail elmac Jul 2018 #42
as long as non-russian americans ignore talk radio devos has little to worry about certainot Jul 2018 #16
Ha! I've been wondering how she fits into all this blue-wave Jul 2018 #17
This tidbit..... Roland99 Jul 2018 #19
All I can say is HOLY CRAP! YOHABLO Jul 2018 #20
K&R UTUSN Jul 2018 #21
When this is all is said and done. Blue_true Jul 2018 #23
The Octopus. smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #25
Here is my column from September 2017 WhiteTara Jul 2018 #27
So it was NO accident!! Roland99 Jul 2018 #33
At the time, I didn't know WhiteTara Jul 2018 #39
"While no data was stolen, deleted or changed, it was replicated. " lagomorph777 Jul 2018 #47
It wasn't taken off the server WhiteTara Jul 2018 #52
Yeah, of course I wasn't complaining about your post, but the article's headline is misleading. lagomorph777 Jul 2018 #60
Yes, I wrote that several months ago WhiteTara Jul 2018 #61
You can't make this shit up. If it was in a movie we would think it was implausible njhoneybadger Jul 2018 #28
K&R. CentralMass Jul 2018 #29
That would be a nice indictment CentralMass Jul 2018 #30
Spectrum Health's Statement on this populistdriven Jul 2018 #31
they were data dumps WhiteTara Jul 2018 #40
Right. They don't have to be standard TCP protocols either. erronis Jul 2018 #49
The crook who ran the bogus "internal investigation" at Alfa is now inside the FBI, lagomorph777 Jul 2018 #48
Wow! A substantiating link, please? erronis Jul 2018 #50
here you go lagomorph777 Jul 2018 #59
Proud to be rec #101. Hugin Jul 2018 #34
... Roland99 Jul 2018 #35
k & r Achilleaze Jul 2018 #36
this just gets more and more disgusting every single day. niyad Jul 2018 #43
Wow, can you point to an article? lagomorph777 Jul 2018 #46
There are several sprinkled throughout this thread Roland99 Jul 2018 #51
Betsy and $200 Million JAD Jul 2018 #53
great post & thread! stuffmatters Jul 2018 #57
Putin's Daughter is Irrelevant to this Issue Upward Aug 2018 #62
Couldn't she have been a conduit for contacts and access? Roland99 Aug 2018 #63
Kick for the halibut Roland99 Oct 2018 #64

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
6. Putin's older daughter: a specialist in biomedical science
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 08:56 PM
Jul 2018
https://www.reuters.com/article/us-russia-capitalism-maria/putins-older-daughter-a-specialist-in-biomedical-science-idUSKCN0SZ1DG20151110

Earlier this year, Putin said both his daughters were living in Moscow, but gave no further details.

Maria now uses the surname Faassen, and under that name she is pursuing a biomedical career specializing in the endocrine system, which controls the body’s hormones, according to academic listings and publications.

...

Maria is a PhD candidate at the Endocrinology Research Centre in Moscow, which runs a charity project, Alfa-Endo, that helps children affected by endocrine ailments. The project’s website includes a presentation by Maria.

...

Alfa-Endo is funded by Alfa Bank, a large Russian bank with subsidiaries in the United States, Britain and Cyprus. The largest shareholder is Mikhail Fridman, a billionaire with interests in banking, energy and telecoms. An official at the bank said: “Alfa Bank, and broadly speaking Alfa Group, act as financial sponsors for the project and that’s it ... We are not aware who else is participating in the project otherwise.”

Maria’s husband used to work for Gazprombank, a large lender with strong links to the elite around Putin.

RVN VET71

(2,690 posts)
58. Nice catch!
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 08:35 PM
Jul 2018

Here's hoping some Russian -- maybe even Ukrainian -- rock group takes the name. I'd buy their albums! (Well, at least the first one.)

canetoad

(17,152 posts)
8. Thanks for the info
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 09:05 PM
Jul 2018

I started Googling to see if anyone else is making these connections; found a post from Louise Mensch from end of June, 2017.
So, if Mensch is correct (what is SIGINT?), they've all been watched for over a year now. I've no opinions either way on Mensch, just posting the info.

https://patribotics.blog/2017/06/29/exclusive-sigint-on-kushnerivanka-inside-russian-embassy/


/snip

Erik Prince
At least the UK and the USA have Prince on SIGINT. He was intimately connected with the Carolina Conspiracy and with the Alfa Bank and Spectrum Health servers. The ‘back channel’ to Russia is those servers. Prince was deeply involved with the Carolina Conspiracy.

Betsy DeVos
Is on SIGINT by the USA and UK in relation to the use of the Spectrum Health server. It is important to say here that Ms. De Vos herself is a suspect, according to my sources with links to the intelligence community.

Maria Putin
The daughter of Vladimir Putin. She heads an endocrinology charity. Michigan’s facility, where the Spectrum Health server was located, is an endocrinology center. I reported in my Nov 7th 2016 report on the two FISA warrants, which Naveed Jamali publicly tweeted he was a source for, that Putin’s own daughters were involved in the activities of the server.

GemDigger

(4,305 posts)
26. I have been following Louise M. on her blog.
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 11:28 PM
Jul 2018

She has rarely been wrong and she corrects herself if she is. I suggest several coffees or alcohol and start reading her blog from the beginning. It. Will. Blow.. Your. Mind.!

The_jackalope

(1,660 posts)
37. Yep, same here.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 07:29 AM
Jul 2018

Following her and talking about it got my previous incarnation kicked off DU... There is a crowd here who refuse to give her (and a half-dozen other "Twitter Journalists" with similar ideas any space or credibility, and work hard to tear her down. But I've always found her work to be remarkably prescient.

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
10. And if that medical database was crossreferenced for information
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 09:24 PM
Jul 2018

Every SINGLE ONE of those pieces of information is a HIPPA violation, and SOMEONE WILL BE GOING TO PRISON FOR A VERY, VERY LONG TIME.
Just sayin.

erronis

(15,241 posts)
44. HIPAA (not HIPPA) is enforced by HHS/CMS which is misguided by the current putos (POTUS).
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 03:24 PM
Jul 2018

I doubt that DeVos or Prince or Vlad or anyone else will be taken to task for privacy violations, as long as the violations are done in the spirit of treason. And then there are pardons - How many would you like, sir?

Volaris

(10,270 posts)
45. Thank you for the correction;
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 03:29 PM
Jul 2018

And oh, I'll take ALL the pardons (even tho I understand I can only have ONE scoop of ice cream with each).

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
13. I wonder if this would be of interest to Rachel Maddow?
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 09:29 PM
Jul 2018

haven't ever seen it reported on, sounds like something she would latch on to.

LAS14

(13,783 posts)
14. Wo! This post sounds like a Rachel show!!
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 09:31 PM
Jul 2018

Only after I posted this did I see the post just above!!! GREAT MINDS!!

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
18. I'm thinking that Comcast may not let her
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 09:48 PM
Jul 2018

as I'm sure such a large healthcare organization (they own everything in W MI) may have big ties to comcast, cable and advertising ties. I'm sure she didn't touch net neutrality because of this.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
38. This story (at least the internet traffic and trump domains) has been known a while
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:12 AM
Jul 2018

But never really picked up by M$M

blue-wave

(4,352 posts)
17. Ha! I've been wondering how she fits into all this
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 09:46 PM
Jul 2018

I mean besides her brother and all.



The GOP = Traitors!!!!

Put it and them all together and that equals nothing less than HIGH TREASON.


Call this what it is: High Treason!! Call them what they are: Traitors!!

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
19. This tidbit.....
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 10:09 PM
Jul 2018
https://www.cnn.com/2017/03/09/politics/fbi-investigation-continues-into-odd-computer-link-between-russian-bank-and-trump-organization/index.html

Spectrum Health told CNN it "did find a small number of incoming spam marketing emails" from "Cendyn, advertising Trump Hotels." But it pointed to emails sent in 2015, long before the May-through-September 2016 time period examined by scientists. Spectrum Health said that it "has not been contacted by the FBI or any government agency on this matter."

Having the Trump Organization server set up for marketing also doesn't explain why Alfa Bank and Spectrum would stand out so much.

"If it were spam, then a lot of other organizations would be doing DNS lookups. There would be evidence of widespread connectivity with devices," said L. Jean Camp, a computer scientist at Indiana University who has studied the data.

...

Robert Graham is a cybersecurity expert who wrote a widely circulated blog post in November that criticized computer scientists for premature conclusions connecting the Trump Organization and Alfa Bank.
But he's still wondering why Alfa Bank and Spectrum Health alone dominated links to this Trump server.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
23. When this is all is said and done.
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 10:44 PM
Jul 2018

There will be a lot of "Her" getting locked up, but none of them will be named Hillary Clinton.

WhiteTara

(29,704 posts)
27. Here is my column from September 2017
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 11:38 PM
Jul 2018
http://eureka.news/free-parking-9/

As the tale of betrayal and treason inundating the Trump White House spiral in an ever widening gyre, we add more names in this saga: DeVos and Zuckerberg.

In a November 22, 2016 Forbes article, Jared Kushner bragged about his “Stealth Data Machine” that won the White House for Donald Trump. In an article dated October 31, 2016, Slate magazine reported on the connections in Kushner’s “Machine.”

For months during the election cycle, reporters noted constant Internet data traffic between Trump Towers servers and Russian Alfa Bank’s servers. Now we learn of a third leg in those data transmissions.

Spectrum Health, a DeVos family (of Amway pyramid-scheme wealth) company’s computer servers appear to have been receiving, replicating and updating hacked voter records with more complete data gleaned from their voluminous patient records. Then after being updated and replicated, that data was transmitted to Trump Tower servers, Alfa Bank servers, and finally to the Kremlin for weaponization based on targeted voter information.

Confirming these allegations, computer data scientists recently published Meta data from their IP addresses and noted consistent lengths of time for each transmission and period of rest.

Intelligence shows Russia’s GRU hacked both DNC voter rolls and voter registration systems throughout the 2016 election cycle. While no data was stolen, deleted or changed, it was replicated.

Zuckerberg’s Facebook recently admitted taking illegal ad money from Russian companies. Whether Zuckerberg’s company is complicit is undetermined. But the reported $100,000 ad buys placed a lot of political ads on Facebook . Those ads aimed to destroy the opposition: Hillary Clinton.

Betsy DeVos, now part of the Trump cabinet, is turning our public school system into private charter and alternative (religious) schools.

Her brother, Eric Prince, owner of infamous Blackwater private military, is lobbying for his new “logistics” company, Frontier Resource Group, to replace our military in Afghanistan. So far, our generals have managed to squash that plan.

Now under cover of devastating fires and hurricanes, Trump and the Republicons are stacking the courts. Fascism is edging ever closer. All I can say is, “Hurry up! Robert Mueller! Those clanging bells signal a 10-alarm fire!”

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
47. "While no data was stolen, deleted or changed, it was replicated. "
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 03:53 PM
Jul 2018

How does "replicated" not equal "stolen?"

WhiteTara

(29,704 posts)
52. It wasn't taken off the server
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 04:52 PM
Jul 2018

as in stolen, it was copied and the copy was stolen. In other words, since nothing was off the server per se, they couldn't say it was stolen, simply replicated. But I couldn't make up words they didn't use. This was researchers ascertainment.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
60. Yeah, of course I wasn't complaining about your post, but the article's headline is misleading.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 08:40 AM
Jul 2018

Nobody today would consider "replicated" hacked data to be anything other than stolen. If somebody "replicates" your credit card and social security number, they certainly have stolen your data.

WhiteTara

(29,704 posts)
61. Yes, I wrote that several months ago
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 08:44 AM
Jul 2018

and that was the articles word and no one anywhere would say the data was stolen and my editor didn't want to get sued.

populistdriven

(5,644 posts)
31. Spectrum Health's Statement on this
Mon Jul 23, 2018, 11:49 PM
Jul 2018
“Spectrum Health does not have a relationship with Alfa Bank or any of the Trump organizations. We have concluded a rigorous investigation with both our internal IT security specialists and expert cyber security firms. Our experts have conducted a detailed analysis of the alleged internet traffic and did not find any evidence that it included any actual communications (no emails, chat, text, etc.) between Spectrum Health and Alfa Bank or any of the Trump organizations. While we did find a small number of incoming spam marketing emails, they originated from a digital marketing company, Cendyn, advertising Trump Hotels.”)


Source Was a Trump Server Communicating With Russia?http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/10/was_a_server_registered_to_the_trump_organization_communicating_with_russia.html


Also, 1 year more recent than the previous link:
Spectrum Health, owned by Michigan’s powerful Devos family, attempted to explain the IP activity as “Voice over IP traffic”, whereas Alfa Bank offered an even more exotic explanation that “hackers attempted to make it look like we contacted Trump Tower.”

Trump Tower’s “Stealth Russian Data Machine”
https://teapainusa.wordpress.com/2017/04/03/data-patterns-suggest-trump-towerspectrum-health-ran-a-stealth-data-machine-with-russia/


..

erronis

(15,241 posts)
49. Right. They don't have to be standard TCP protocols either.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 04:02 PM
Jul 2018

The russkis would be happy to show the Devos/Prince companies how to send information across the internet without it being recognized. Of course they would use proxies and friendly routers too.

lagomorph777

(30,613 posts)
48. The crook who ran the bogus "internal investigation" at Alfa is now inside the FBI,
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 03:55 PM
Jul 2018

running the Criminal Division.

JAD

(187 posts)
53. Betsy and $200 Million
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 05:07 PM
Jul 2018

Is this how Betsy got $200 million to donate to Republican races in 2016??????????????

Upward

(115 posts)
62. Putin's Daughter is Irrelevant to this Issue
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 02:29 AM
Aug 2018

Whatever link she may or may not have is not necessary to explore and may be a diversion from what's important: the computer logs and whatever activity was going on.

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