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Resignation letter from Elizabeth Holtzman to Sec Nielsen is absolutely incredible (Original Post) kpete Jul 2018 OP
"........ it is you who should be tending your resignation instead.". If only... nt Guy Whitey Corngood Jul 2018 #1
The Trump administration is evil and those who gladly serve in it are just as guilty. olegramps Jul 2018 #27
evil and guilty are mikeysnot Jul 2018 #50
Nicely done. SusanaMontana41 Jul 2018 #65
Wow. That is great. Squinch Jul 2018 #2
I stand up and tip my hat in your honor. Chickensoup Jul 2018 #3
You can't shame them but a worthy effort..... BSdetect Jul 2018 #4
That is the problem, they could care less. That is what happens when you deal with sociopaths. still_one Jul 2018 #5
Holtzman was not a DHS employee... brooklynite Jul 2018 #6
In this case that's an irrelevant distinction, nicht wahr? nt The_jackalope Jul 2018 #8
Disagree... brooklynite Jul 2018 #15
The second sentence of her letter SCantiGOP Jul 2018 #23
But originally, the OP headline called her an "employee" brooklynite Jul 2018 #24
Agree it's a significant point. As we see in those Hortensis Jul 2018 #33
Agree! True Blue American Jul 2018 #17
And with a righteous consistency... LanternWaste Jul 2018 #42
This should have 500 recs malaise Jul 2018 #7
K&R PatSeg Jul 2018 #9
Well said! FM123 Jul 2018 #10
Well said! Puzzler Jul 2018 #11
Whoa, how totally awesome, factual and forthright. lark Jul 2018 #12
Kudos. NoMoreRepugs Jul 2018 #13
Go, Liz Holtzman. You are so right. Nielsen is a disgrace. brush Jul 2018 #14
We need more like this lillypaddle Jul 2018 #16
BRAVO! nt zanana1 Jul 2018 #18
There is nothing honorable about Nielsen. Eyeball_Kid Jul 2018 #19
K & R... Wounded Bear Jul 2018 #20
I hated it when it was formed... llmart Jul 2018 #46
Agreed - echoes of "das Vaterland" (nt) klook Jul 2018 #48
I was actually a little ambivalent when they started talk about it... Wounded Bear Jul 2018 #52
Good point lunatica Jul 2018 #47
Utter depravity C_U_L8R Jul 2018 #21
Great Letter Gothmog Jul 2018 #22
Badass indeed!! LittleGirl Jul 2018 #25
Breathless........... MyOwnPeace Jul 2018 #26
Kick for Liz Holtzman FakeNoose Jul 2018 #28
Nielsen probably will resign. Just look at the record of those who've resigned from this adm. YOHABLO Jul 2018 #29
She won't resign, she already sold out for the promotion DeminPennswoods Jul 2018 #31
Great letter! awesomerwb1 Jul 2018 #30
GREAT ! OK, now everybody stop typing and send this everywhere you can.. FB, TWIT, friends, pangaia Jul 2018 #32
Brava, Mrs Holtzman! malthaussen Jul 2018 #34
This letter should become a historic document. colorado_ufo Jul 2018 #35
K&R smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #36
I've been a fan of Liz Holtzman since... MarianJack Jul 2018 #37
K & R! Lifelong Protester Jul 2018 #38
K & R n/t They_Live Jul 2018 #39
K&R, in respect and awe. dchill Jul 2018 #40
K & R. n/t FSogol Jul 2018 #41
Q: Will the press grill the gop on this? If not, it's exactly what 45 wants. lindysalsagal Jul 2018 #43
Immediately Facebooked 90-percent Jul 2018 #44
Attack Fox and Murdochs that is the only way to get to Trump Pepsidog Jul 2018 #45
Awesome lunamagica Jul 2018 #49
This is what a thumping good resignation letter from an honorable person looks like... Hekate Jul 2018 #51
Yes! cp Jul 2018 #53
K & R democrank Jul 2018 #54
Great going Elizabeth. Good for you! oasis Jul 2018 #55
Badass women. We are (to our benefit) seeing more and more of them. Stinky The Clown Jul 2018 #56
Shout itfrom the roof tops (NT) The Wizard Jul 2018 #57
Nothing 'incredible' about it at all. elleng Jul 2018 #58
Tell it, Rep. Holtzman! LuckyLib Jul 2018 #59
An excellent letter. Says it all. And good for historical records to reflect what has happened here. Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #60
She's on Chris Hayes malaise Jul 2018 #61
Nielsen doesn't give a f**K drmeow Jul 2018 #62
Very powerful...if only Nielsen would read it and take it to heart, she won't. iluvtennis Jul 2018 #63
Hugs to her and all the separated children and their parents. SusanaMontana41 Jul 2018 #64
Ahhh-- that satisfies. N/t librechik Jul 2018 #66
Kicked and recommended. Uncle Joe Jul 2018 #67

olegramps

(8,200 posts)
27. The Trump administration is evil and those who gladly serve in it are just as guilty.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:01 AM
Jul 2018

I don't know how much longer this dysfunctional, lawless, dictatorial executive brand of the government can be tolerated? The legitimacy of the election of the president was accomplished by the aid of a foreign power that has avowed to destroy our nation and subjugate it as it sought to do throughout its history. The very allegiance of the president is in serious doubt. It has been concluded by those with extensive knowledge that he has been either compromised to do their bidding or even more seriously is conspiring to transform the presidency into an authoritarian office with absolute power over the legislative and judiciary. In effect creating a police state and nullifying every article of the constitution. Any objective appraisal must conclude that the executive branch of the government is under the control of a irrational, vindictive despotic moron with a cabinet of brainless bootlicking syncopates to do his bidding. God help America.

still_one

(92,060 posts)
5. That is the problem, they could care less. That is what happens when you deal with sociopaths.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 08:43 AM
Jul 2018

They do not have a conscience


Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
33. Agree it's a significant point. As we see in those
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:12 AM
Jul 2018

few Republican invertebrate betrayers who've discovered vestigial spines and stumbled over long-discarded moral codes only after deciding not to run for reelection.

Still applaud the truth she speaks. It's possible she might not have done it had she believed Republicans would dominate DC until 2020 but also possible she'd have walked no matter what.

lark

(23,059 posts)
12. Whoa, how totally awesome, factual and forthright.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 08:57 AM
Jul 2018

I love this brave, caring woman - wow what a role model!!! :

Eyeball_Kid

(7,429 posts)
19. There is nothing honorable about Nielsen.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:21 AM
Jul 2018

Cruelty is not gender-specific. Nielsen possesses it in spades.

Wounded Bear

(58,584 posts)
20. K & R...
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:28 AM
Jul 2018

Trump has turned DHS into the organization that we feared when Bush first approved it.

In the interest of "fighting terrorism" we have constructed our own Gestapo.

llmart

(15,532 posts)
46. I hated it when it was formed...
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:42 AM
Jul 2018

especially the name - sounded so nazi Germany. I wish they would do away with it already. I remember when librarians were standing up to the requirement that they reveal what sorts of materials people were checking out. Does anyone really think it has been an effective use of taxpayer money? Once you create a new agency, it never goes away. But Americans were all caught up in the nationalistic fervor after 9/11.

Wounded Bear

(58,584 posts)
52. I was actually a little ambivalent when they started talk about it...
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 01:46 PM
Jul 2018

and IIRC, even Bush opposed it at first.

There are certain efficiencies that happen when LEO and intel organizations work together, but the risk was real, and we're seeing the dark side of it TBS.

C_U_L8R

(44,983 posts)
21. Utter depravity
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:31 AM
Jul 2018

A bold and smart letter. History will not be kind to the Trumps and their surrogates.

LittleGirl

(8,277 posts)
25. Badass indeed!!
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:47 AM
Jul 2018

I stand and applaud someone that will stand, state their views and leave. See who follows.

I hope she starts a tsunami of people that cripple that agency and get those children back where they belong.

MyOwnPeace

(16,917 posts)
26. Breathless...........
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:47 AM
Jul 2018

that is my response - what a marvelous letter. Yet another person that could/should have the opportunity to serve our country - denied by terrible, mean-spirited and ill-thought leadership.

What a shame our country has become - nowhere near the "Make America Great Again" objective so fraudulently thrown about by IQ45 and his band of terrorists.

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
29. Nielsen probably will resign. Just look at the record of those who've resigned from this adm.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:02 AM
Jul 2018

I'm still waiting for SH Sanders to bu bye.

DeminPennswoods

(15,265 posts)
31. She won't resign, she already sold out for the promotion
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:07 AM
Jul 2018

There was a recent story about how few of friends recognize her as the person they knew.

awesomerwb1

(4,265 posts)
30. Great letter!
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:05 AM
Jul 2018

Bravo Mrs Holtzman!

"Although it is I who am resigning in protest against these policies, it is you who should be tendering your resignation instead."

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
32. GREAT ! OK, now everybody stop typing and send this everywhere you can.. FB, TWIT, friends,
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:10 AM
Jul 2018

local newspapers, TV and radio stations, NATIONAL media outlets!



READY


SET


GO !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

MarianJack

(10,237 posts)
37. I've been a fan of Liz Holtzman since...
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:28 AM
Jul 2018

...her first run for the House in 1972. During that primary campaign, when I'd gone up to NYC to volunteer for George McGovern in the presidential primary, I very briefly met her. I'm surprised that she wasn't purged immediately by the Trump junta.

RESIST!

90-percent

(6,828 posts)
44. Immediately Facebooked
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:21 AM
Jul 2018

This does truly clarify the cruelty of Trump and the compassion we the USA USED TO HAVE for refugees escaping misery, slavery and death.

-90%

Hekate

(90,538 posts)
51. This is what a thumping good resignation letter from an honorable person looks like...
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 01:20 PM
Jul 2018

She was one of the authors of the Refugee Act of 1980, back when we could still be proud of Congress.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
60. An excellent letter. Says it all. And good for historical records to reflect what has happened here.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 04:22 PM
Jul 2018

nt

drmeow

(5,012 posts)
62. Nielsen doesn't give a f**K
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:22 PM
Jul 2018

If anyone in the Trump administration had any morals or ethics or was capable of feeling shame they would have already left the administration. The only things these people care about are loss of power, loss of money, or loss of freedom (i.e., actual jail time).

SusanaMontana41

(3,233 posts)
64. Hugs to her and all the separated children and their parents.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:47 PM
Jul 2018

We will make this right, because we have no choice.

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