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Watching Rachael. I am officially scared shitless now (Original Post) demtenjeep Jul 2018 OP
Pretty disturbing, isn't it? The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #1
Do This... The Conductor Jul 2018 #36
Kick n/t SusanaMontana41 Jul 2018 #60
+1 uponit7771 Jul 2018 #84
demtenjeep....I am also sitting here watching Rachel ... and YES skylucy Jul 2018 #2
They've been handed the country. Buckle up. nolabear Jul 2018 #3
I don't get Rachel on my TV. smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #4
She's showing the disinformation that's going on. shraby Jul 2018 #11
even more scary than the disappearing evidence is that russia has the us by the balls demtenjeep Jul 2018 #22
Thanks for filling me in. smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #23
I dont have TV but you can watch Rachel here on your computer for free: Amaryllis Jul 2018 #32
Thank you! smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #37
Inconvenient question not just cut from transcript, but from VIDEO. lostnfound Jul 2018 #19
Thank you! smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #28
7/24, Tonight's TRMS show, also posted in 'Video' on the Front Page. appalachiablue Jul 2018 #58
You can always go to MSNBC.com after the fact and watch the video clips.... Pachamama Jul 2018 #71
So depressing. smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #73
SM - Google - You Tube + Rachel Maddow + 7/24/18 - .... magicarpet Jul 2018 #78
Thank you! smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #80
you can get her on your computer barbtries Jul 2018 #82
HOLY SHIT! Drop everything and watch her next segment. shraby Jul 2018 #5
altering the video of helsinki should be against some goddamn law spanone Jul 2018 #6
Official Goverment records tampering. oasis Jul 2018 #9
And no coincidence that stephographers gone day one! Laura PourMeADrink Jul 2018 #62
But... ooky Jul 2018 #65
Not true - the vast majority of people would have been at work n/t malaise Jul 2018 #75
I don't disagree they will just lie through it. ooky Jul 2018 #83
yeah... it is more than idiotic tweets from deranged Trump lapfog_1 Jul 2018 #7
News agencies must have an unedited copy wasupaloopa Jul 2018 #16
They are preparing the public for the inevitable lapfog_1 Jul 2018 #17
And it's frightening shit! backtoblue Jul 2018 #25
At VFW, odious traitor said "What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening," RestoreAmerica2020 Jul 2018 #48
Rachel is showing the unedited copy Staph Jul 2018 #20
and when all Fox had was what the rest of us saw and heard lapfog_1 Jul 2018 #33
No, not excepting Fox..... BruceWane Jul 2018 #70
They do; Rachel was showing it and comparing it with the WH's redacted version. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #38
I saw the segment, I agree - this is about more than idiotic tweets, it is really scary! FM123 Jul 2018 #55
Heavy duty stuff. Repeats at 9:00 pacific. DO NOT MISS. oasis Jul 2018 #8
It is freaky but i am sure glad she is calling it like it is. Dont know how many really see what she Amaryllis Jul 2018 #10
Chris Cuomo on CNN playing the Cohen tape. ReformedGOPer Jul 2018 #12
When she said that the Russians were undermining one of our top generals procon Jul 2018 #13
I am not afraid. I am ANGRY. Silver Gaia Jul 2018 #14
We have to be angry and stay angry. The Velveteen Ocelot Jul 2018 #52
If something was left out and you know wasupaloopa Jul 2018 #15
Remember what Trump said today at VFW gathering? oasis Jul 2018 #18
This. badhair77 Jul 2018 #39
The part that angers me is that Congress knows exactly what he is doing...and yet.... Grammy23 Jul 2018 #61
there are none so blind luvallpeeps Jul 2018 #69
These motherfuckers don't scare me. GulfCoast66 Jul 2018 #21
That is what people in Scotland learned BigmanPigman Jul 2018 #44
Right on. Silver Gaia Jul 2018 #49
The White House falsely recording history in tandem with Russia. Sneederbunk Jul 2018 #24
remember Haggis for Breakfast Jul 2018 #26
Not everyone on DU gets cable. left-of-center2012 Jul 2018 #27
After watching Rachel and Lawrence SCVDem Jul 2018 #29
Have to agree bots are bcak biglythis election FloridaBlues Jul 2018 #30
???? Roland99 Jul 2018 #31
Actually, there are a lot of good things happening. Turbineguy Jul 2018 #34
Same here. Tomorrow: equilibrium. Hekate Jul 2018 #35
me too, man...me too FirstLight Jul 2018 #40
Sheeple cannot save democracy. triron Jul 2018 #43
It's fucking scary... FirstLight Jul 2018 #47
Just say Nyet! VOX Jul 2018 #41
She is warning us. triron Jul 2018 #42
Can someone please elaborate. nycbos Jul 2018 #45
If you read the entire thread you'll be Control-Z Jul 2018 #53
Here you go....This is tonight's show.... Upthevibe Jul 2018 #56
Thank you for posting this! CozyMystery Jul 2018 #59
It's important to know what the interpreter was saying to Putin on his ear phone. YOHABLO Jul 2018 #77
kick for visibility triron Jul 2018 #46
thanks for the warning. we will skip the repeat broadcast. SleeplessinSoCal Jul 2018 #50
Rachel's show repeats at 9:00 pacific. 1st 20 min. A MUST SEE. oasis Jul 2018 #51
This is a must watch dalton99a Jul 2018 #54
Also, on the tape, Trump doesn't sound nuts, like he does at his rallies. woodsprite Jul 2018 #57
He is a bullshit artist. roamer65 Jul 2018 #72
I feel like I'm watching a horror movie and Upthevibe Jul 2018 #63
Vote the GOP bums out of office! UCmeNdc Jul 2018 #64
I got terrified when I heard Kennedy was retiring. Honeycombe8 Jul 2018 #66
Yes it was very disturbing. Glimmer of Hope Jul 2018 #67
Trump is a great propagandist leader. He uses propaganda to prop up his regime. UCmeNdc Jul 2018 #68
I think he is too stupid to be a dictator. murielm99 Jul 2018 #74
I hope a journalist will confront Lyin' Sarah about this at the next press conference. Vinca Jul 2018 #76
"Let me get back to you on that". Sarah's standard line. oasis Jul 2018 #79
volunteer barbtries Jul 2018 #81
I'm always scared and don't even have a tv! Bonx Jul 2018 #85
My other half and I vote by mail. We sent in our ballots today demtenjeep Jul 2018 #86

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,615 posts)
1. Pretty disturbing, isn't it?
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:19 PM
Jul 2018


Trump is spewing disinformation and hiding facts. We're being sold down the river and there doesn't seem to be any way to stop it.

The Conductor

(180 posts)
36. Do This...
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:51 PM
Jul 2018

Don't be afraid - vote! Get all your friends and family registered, and make sure they vote, too. The way to stop this is to quit listening to Trump's ignorant and desperate distractions. Vote! Vote as if the country depends on your actions - because it does.

skylucy

(3,737 posts)
2. demtenjeep....I am also sitting here watching Rachel ... and YES
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:22 PM
Jul 2018

I am terrified too. Absolutely terrified and furious.

nolabear

(41,938 posts)
3. They've been handed the country. Buckle up.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:23 PM
Jul 2018

The stuff about the grid scares me shitless. We should be doing the EXACT opposite of what we are.


Shit.

shraby

(21,946 posts)
11. She's showing the disinformation that's going on.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:27 PM
Jul 2018

The question that was asked at the meeting of trump and putin about if putin helped and wanted trump to win has been cut out of the video by our government. The question is gone.

The Russians is using the meeting to say we are going to work with them in Syria. Our head man there said he knows of no such order.
Russia is saying he is disobeying our supreme commander (trump)

See it later if you can.

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
22. even more scary than the disappearing evidence is that russia has the us by the balls
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:07 PM
Jul 2018

and can really create a horrible situation for the USA

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
23. Thanks for filling me in.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:11 PM
Jul 2018

I am at work all day and often can't check in. I don't get home until about 6:30 or so and I only have basic local channels so I miss a lot during the day. I appreciate the background!

lostnfound

(16,162 posts)
19. Inconvenient question not just cut from transcript, but from VIDEO.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:51 PM
Jul 2018

They cut HALF of a question out — “did you want Mr. Trump to win,and did you direct...” to which Putin answered “yes I did.” — became “did you direct...”

The part about wanting trump to win is GONE from the video, and Trump is out there tweeting about Putin wanting the democrats to win.

Pachamama

(16,884 posts)
71. You can always go to MSNBC.com after the fact and watch the video clips....
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:46 AM
Jul 2018

This show tonight is shocking - both her showing the edited tapes off the official record and her conversations with her experts.

We aren't just moving towards Fascism in America.....we are already there....

Classic Russian Disinformation....

 

smirkymonkey

(63,221 posts)
73. So depressing.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:49 AM
Jul 2018

It's so hard to keep one's hopes up in this atmosphere. I want to stay informed, yet the reality of all that is going on is just crushing me.

magicarpet

(14,124 posts)
78. SM - Google - You Tube + Rachel Maddow + 7/24/18 - ....
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 07:54 AM
Jul 2018

Find that date in the listing - usually listed 1/2 hour to 45 minutes after the end of her show (10pm)on that same day. There you can watch TRMS.

barbtries

(28,774 posts)
82. you can get her on your computer
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 11:12 AM
Jul 2018

msnbc.com

not in real time, but the next day or later in the day.

are you unable to hear the posted podcast? i listened to it because i'm at work.

the administration is editing video and transcripts of press conferences etc. Helsinki in particular.

ooky

(8,908 posts)
65. But...
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:14 AM
Jul 2018

a lot of people watched that live. We heard the reporter's question and we heard Putin's answer. They can't make what so many people saw go away in our minds. So I'm not sure why Trump thinks taking this information out really helps him.

ooky

(8,908 posts)
83. I don't disagree they will just lie through it.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 11:26 AM
Jul 2018

But we have to stick this lie in their faces, i.e. run our own ads revealing and countering this blatant lie. (n/t)

lapfog_1

(29,194 posts)
7. yeah... it is more than idiotic tweets from deranged Trump
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:26 PM
Jul 2018

Changing the transcript and the video of the Helsinki news conference to edit out the question that was asked of Putin about whether or not Putin wished Trump to win and if he did anything to help that.

Changed the transcript and then edited the video...

Russia simply edited it all out... the White House edited it to change the nature of the question asked.

disinformation warfare against the American citizen practiced by both the US and Russian governments.

Then she went on to discuss Centcom commander's response to Russian news stories about "alignment of Russian and US military goals in Syria".

This is, in fact, really scary.

lapfog_1

(29,194 posts)
17. They are preparing the public for the inevitable
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:42 PM
Jul 2018

charge of "fake news" and are going to tell the Trump base (and the world in general) that we didn't see what we saw. That their version is the "correct official version" and everything else is fake

backtoblue

(11,343 posts)
25. And it's frightening shit!
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:13 PM
Jul 2018

Seems to all be coming together with the fake news, blame Democrats, disregard for Constitution.

All hail shitler....

RestoreAmerica2020

(3,434 posts)
48. At VFW, odious traitor said "What you're seeing and what you're reading is not what's happening,"
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:14 PM
Jul 2018
Exerpt
[NYT; Emily Cochrane
July 24, 2018]

Stick with us. Don’t believe the crap you see from these people, the fake news,” Mr. Trump said at the annual convention of the Veterans of Foreign Wars, as part of the crowd booed and hissed in the direction of the press corps.


...“What you’re seeing and what you’re reading is not what’s happening,” added the president.

Staph

(6,251 posts)
20. Rachel is showing the unedited copy
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:53 PM
Jul 2018

to demonstrate exactly what the White House and the Russians have removed from their official transcripts and video.

And all of the other networks (excepting Fox, of course) also have the unedited video!


lapfog_1

(29,194 posts)
33. and when all Fox had was what the rest of us saw and heard
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:44 PM
Jul 2018

they were doing a WTF did Trump just do... and the base was wondering WTF... and Comrade Donny couldn't have that... hence the doctored version so that Fox can "correct the record" (although they will never state that) and the base will be mollified.

BruceWane

(345 posts)
70. No, not excepting Fox.....
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:36 AM
Jul 2018

My guess is Fox not only has the original, they helped with the editing.

Bill Shine, Trump's new deputy chief of staff overseeing communications, was #2 behind Roger Ailes at Fox news for 20+ years.

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,615 posts)
38. They do; Rachel was showing it and comparing it with the WH's redacted version.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:53 PM
Jul 2018

The problem is that the Trumpers are likely to claim that the real version has been faked.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
10. It is freaky but i am sure glad she is calling it like it is. Dont know how many really see what she
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:27 PM
Jul 2018

does. She can connect the dots better than anyone.

procon

(15,805 posts)
13. When she said that the Russians were undermining one of our top generals
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:31 PM
Jul 2018

and accusing him of defying his commander in chief, their goal was very obvious. They are playing on Trump's ego, his pettiness and stupidity, laying the way for him to squash the general, and taking Russia's side over America.

Traitor!

Silver Gaia

(4,541 posts)
14. I am not afraid. I am ANGRY.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:36 PM
Jul 2018

I am not afraid because we are still a free people, free enough that we can see and hear this being exposed on nationwide television. I am fucking PISSED, LIVID. But not scared. Don't be scared because that is what they want. They want you demoralized and cowering in fear. Scream "NO!" to that! Scream "ENOUGH!" And call your Representatives and Senators! Hit the fucking streets! But DO NOT let them make you afraid. "Fear is the mind killer."

The Velveteen Ocelot

(115,615 posts)
52. We have to be angry and stay angry.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:19 PM
Jul 2018

All this disinformation is intend to confuse, discourage and dishearten. We can't let them do that to us.

 

wasupaloopa

(4,516 posts)
15. If something was left out and you know
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:36 PM
Jul 2018

what it is, then let everyone in the country in on it. Then it is no secret.

oasis

(49,339 posts)
18. Remember what Trump said today at VFW gathering?
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 09:45 PM
Jul 2018

Trump boldly stated "Don't believe what you read or see". He's got his Deplorable cultists in his pocket and the GOP congress won't do jack.

badhair77

(4,210 posts)
39. This.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:53 PM
Jul 2018

The part that scares me and angers me is that his followers will believe whatever he says, despite the video or corrected transcript. They’ve been totally indoctrinated.

Grammy23

(5,810 posts)
61. The part that angers me is that Congress knows exactly what he is doing...and yet....
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:50 PM
Jul 2018

They do nothing. Obviously, we ask, “WHY?” Because their agenda is not done yet. They want to give tRump a little more time to finish everything on their wish list. And they are implicated in the whole shebang. So they cannot stop him yet. Maybe they will never do a thing because they all have something on each other. They are in a strangle hold, not knowing how it will all end.

Our only hope is to get as many Dems in the Congress as we can. However, with the Russians doing their dirty work and the Republicans using their tricks, we may be in for a battle royal. Mueller needs to spill the beans ASAP to bring this out in the open.

Buckle up, fellow DUers. I think we have some rough and tumble historic times ahead.

GulfCoast66

(11,949 posts)
21. These motherfuckers don't scare me.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:04 PM
Jul 2018

And he’s talking to a shrinking percentage of the population.

For the first time in quite a while I’m glad we live in a federalist system. Half or more of the governors in this country are willing to tell him to fuck off. And after the elections it will be a higher percentage than that.

And what are his supporters going to do? Can’t raise too much hell on a hover round with an oxygen tank. Even those idiots from Charlottesville are either fighting each other or on trial.

If every Democratic leader would start laughing at him, and called him Putins apprentice every time they are on TV, it would be over in five months.

They thrive on out rage. Humiliation destroys them.

BigmanPigman

(51,570 posts)
44. That is what people in Scotland learned
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:00 PM
Jul 2018

when he was building his golf courses and they resisted. They found that the best weapon was humiliation and it worked really, really well.

 

SCVDem

(5,103 posts)
29. After watching Rachel and Lawrence
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:34 PM
Jul 2018

I see the counter-dump strategy put forth with facts and precedent.

I am still shaken, but I also have hope.

Hope!

Turbineguy

(37,296 posts)
34. Actually, there are a lot of good things happening.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:47 PM
Jul 2018

People who are way smarter and way more honest than trump are on the move against him.

FirstLight

(13,357 posts)
40. me too, man...me too
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:55 PM
Jul 2018

I cannot believe we have 1984 in our fucking FACE right now and are still sheeple enough to just keep on going...myself included.
Terrifying indeed

FirstLight

(13,357 posts)
47. It's fucking scary...
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:09 PM
Jul 2018

live in a rural mtn hippie town...when I go to the "city" or travel around "infrastructure" I am horrified at the amount to which our fellow humans are "asleep" they are worker bees/consumers...with NO care of the greenhouse gasses or toxic shit created to make their toothbrush in China and then having the shit SHIPPED everywhere...

The machine is always running

and how lucky am I to be able to get a tomato at the store in rural sierras....

our lives are fragile
our allies matter

and in the face of this crazy, we need to work more closely with actual neighbors

VOX

(22,976 posts)
41. Just say Nyet!
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 10:57 PM
Jul 2018

Christ almighty, 45 really IS a Russian tool (heavy on the tool part).

Vote against Putin in November!! Vote Democratic!

nycbos

(6,034 posts)
45. Can someone please elaborate.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:01 PM
Jul 2018

That's the problem with these posts. Not everyone is glued to the TV. Some context would be helpful.

Control-Z

(15,682 posts)
53. If you read the entire thread you'll be
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:22 PM
Jul 2018

filled in, pretty much.

ETA: Here is a link to a free MSNBC stream (in real time). I use it when I'm driving and unable watch at home:

http://www.livenewson.com/american/msnbc.html

 

YOHABLO

(7,358 posts)
77. It's important to know what the interpreter was saying to Putin on his ear phone.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 07:51 AM
Jul 2018

How do we know he was answering the first but not the second part of the question: ''and did you direct any of your officials to help him?" I think that is the most important part of the question.

woodsprite

(11,905 posts)
57. Also, on the tape, Trump doesn't sound nuts, like he does at his rallies.
Tue Jul 24, 2018, 11:36 PM
Jul 2018

He sounds cold and calculating.

Honeycombe8

(37,648 posts)
66. I got terrified when I heard Kennedy was retiring.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:17 AM
Jul 2018

And that Kennedy has ties to Trump.

I view the mid-terms as our last stand. Well, the Mueller report and the mid-terms combined. This is it. When the country's democracy can be saved.

Glimmer of Hope

(5,823 posts)
67. Yes it was very disturbing.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:20 AM
Jul 2018

I will probably try to process everything when I wake up in the middle of the night.

UCmeNdc

(9,600 posts)
68. Trump is a great propagandist leader. He uses propaganda to prop up his regime.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:23 AM
Jul 2018

Trump is a dictator in the making.

murielm99

(30,717 posts)
74. I think he is too stupid to be a dictator.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 03:20 AM
Jul 2018

He is a dupe, being used by others.

When the repiggie congress has used him as much as they can, they will discard him. Putin can only prop him up for so long.

We will have a huge mess to clean up. It will take more years than I have left on this earth.

Vinca

(50,237 posts)
76. I hope a journalist will confront Lyin' Sarah about this at the next press conference.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 06:21 AM
Jul 2018

This is intentional doctoring of official records, not a mistake.

barbtries

(28,774 posts)
81. volunteer
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 11:11 AM
Jul 2018

call, write, march, get engaged. Put your fear to good use.

#GOTV #BlueWave2018

we still have Rachel after all. it's scary i agree but fear cannot paralyze us at all. it should only motivate us to take back the power.

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
86. My other half and I vote by mail. We sent in our ballots today
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 08:46 PM
Jul 2018

One thing I noticed was that many judgeship's races were blank because we have the D primary ballot.

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