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Squinch

(50,934 posts)
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 10:02 AM Jul 2018

Seriously, if you didn't catch Rachel's show last night, you really need to. Here's the podcast.

We have never been in this much danger as a country before. Here at DU, we MUST stop our troll-incited internecine battles and fight the forces that are trying to take the whole country down.


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Seriously, if you didn't catch Rachel's show last night, you really need to. Here's the podcast. (Original Post) Squinch Jul 2018 OP
elections now are about democracy vs. autocracy unblock Jul 2018 #1
Exactly. This misinformation campaign is terrifying. Squinch Jul 2018 #3
Yep. It's more and more apparent that trump is a Russian asset... brush Jul 2018 #24
Trouble is elections will be corrupted. triron Jul 2018 #20
Already are. But that is what is at stake unblock Jul 2018 #22
Thank you! betsuni Jul 2018 #2
My plan, going forward, is that whenever I see one of these threads aimed at dividing us, I'll Squinch Jul 2018 #4
+1 Kurt V. Jul 2018 #18
Good idea! Sophia4 Jul 2018 #28
Yes. There are also plenty of other right-wing evils to Hortensis Jul 2018 #33
This is an important episode. dalton99a Jul 2018 #5
This was an excellent show. Please listen to it. Mrs. Overall Jul 2018 #6
It's an uphill battle Johnny2X2X Jul 2018 #7
Its heading in that direction, certainly. Squinch Jul 2018 #13
Whether we believe it's that imminent or not lunatica Jul 2018 #31
Immigrants Johnny2X2X Jul 2018 #35
Immigrant CHILDREN. My heart breaks every time I think of it. Squinch Jul 2018 #41
Bookmarking Pacifist Patriot Jul 2018 #8
The bit about the general is a cliffhanger & alarming uponit7771 Jul 2018 #9
Thank you for posting..... chillfactor Jul 2018 #10
I can't watch at night. It winds me up too much. So I watched this morning. Squinch Jul 2018 #12
i'm not surprised barbtries Jul 2018 #11
Going to come down to numbers. Clearly, his base counts lying and revisionist wiggs Jul 2018 #14
And, sadly, we have to win by a margin that can't be reversed Squinch Jul 2018 #15
And sadly we have to deal with people allegedly on our side... brush Jul 2018 #26
I'm glad you said that. n/t murielm99 Jul 2018 #30
Being informed can be painful and frightening and most certainly... Guilded Lilly Jul 2018 #16
K&R. dchill Jul 2018 #17
Yep. triron Jul 2018 #19
Orwell's 1984 is here under Trump.... iluvtennis Jul 2018 #21
He's even quoting that, almost verbatim. Squinch Jul 2018 #23
Yep, how sick is that. Praying this country survives this shitshow. iluvtennis Jul 2018 #25
k and r Achilleaze Jul 2018 #27
Rachel did a good job last night Gothmog Jul 2018 #29
Bookmarked for later Martin Eden Jul 2018 #32
Ok I know I'm not going to make DU friends with this post..... usaf-vet Jul 2018 #34
She hates the panel format, so got hung up explaining why she assembled one for this show bettyellen Jul 2018 #37
Kay. Squinch Jul 2018 #38
She's become one of the most reliable lunatica Jul 2018 #39
Kick for max exposure. This is too important to miss. nt oasis Jul 2018 #36
Bookmarking for later viewing. smirkymonkey Jul 2018 #40

unblock

(52,164 posts)
1. elections now are about democracy vs. autocracy
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 10:05 AM
Jul 2018

the old line about no difference between the parties most definitely doesn't apply these days!

brush

(53,758 posts)
24. Yep. It's more and more apparent that trump is a Russian asset...
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:13 PM
Jul 2018

whose administration is purposely dispersing misinformation to hide their Russian ties.

With this evidence Rachel exposed that they are doing openly, the validity of the November election outcome is in definite peril.

They think they can get away with this stuff.

My fingers are crossed though that our system (with the few watchdog media members, Mueller and select, outspoken Dems like Waters and Shiff) will prevail and bring this traitor down.

Squinch

(50,934 posts)
4. My plan, going forward, is that whenever I see one of these threads aimed at dividing us, I'll
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 10:07 AM
Jul 2018

post them this podcast and remind them that we have bigger fish to fry.

Hortensis

(58,785 posts)
33. Yes. There are also plenty of other right-wing evils to
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 01:19 PM
Jul 2018

try to wake up people to the enormous threat from the right. Can't expand Medicare if some key component has been declared unconstitutional by our newly packed extreme-right SCOTUS, after all.

And, of course, updates on this vicious right-wing atrocity are a moral duty:



Johnny2X2X

(19,001 posts)
7. It's an uphill battle
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 10:23 AM
Jul 2018

To spread facts takes time and research, and it's less eye catching because it's boring.

The other side simply repeats a lie or blurts out one, and their goal isn't necessarily to win the argument, most of the time they just want to muddy the waters.

The end result is horrifying and we're way way past the point of danger. This ends in genocide, that's what's on the line here. Nuclear holocaust is not off the table either.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
31. Whether we believe it's that imminent or not
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:48 PM
Jul 2018

We must never shut our minds to the possibility that genocide is possible. It CAN happen here. It happened to the Native Americans. Slavery was a fact in this country. Putting the Japanese in internment camps was a fact. We must never forget these things or we’ll repeat them.

Johnny2X2X

(19,001 posts)
35. Immigrants
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 01:23 PM
Jul 2018

They are holding immigrants in secret prisons right now. Many of these holding facilities have not been able to be visited even by members of Congress.

Remember this, they will find mass graves. History is a guide and whenever in history a group is held in secret as the leader of the power that is holding them calls them things like animals and an infestation, mass killings have occurred. Trump green lighted any and all abuses his guards can commit when he dehumanized them. This will not occur at some point in the future, this has already occurred and is likely still occurring on some small scale at least. They are holding thousands of human beings in secret, it's a fact that many hundreds of them can no longer be accounted for, where did they go?

chillfactor

(7,573 posts)
10. Thank you for posting.....
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 10:59 AM
Jul 2018

I usually am a faithful watcher of Rachel's program but I was not feeling very good last night so I was in bed early and missed her program...what a night to go to bed early. So, thank you again for posting this so I could catch up on her program.

Squinch

(50,934 posts)
12. I can't watch at night. It winds me up too much. So I watched this morning.
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 11:12 AM
Jul 2018

One unthinkable crisis after another.

barbtries

(28,787 posts)
11. i'm not surprised
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 11:01 AM
Jul 2018

but i can still be shocked and often am shocked at the depths of republicans. feckless traitorous motherfuckers should be prosecuted, impeached, imprisoned, disgraced, exiled, impoverished, tarred and feathered. enemies of democracy and they have almost all the power

wiggs

(7,811 posts)
14. Going to come down to numbers. Clearly, his base counts lying and revisionist
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 11:21 AM
Jul 2018

history and fake numbers and 'alternative facts' as winning. Shooting someone on the streets of new york is winning.

Are there enough people who identify with this kind of 'winning' to keep him and GOP afloat? There was in 2016. Pointing out how radical it is to modify official transcripts may rally the dem base and win independents, which is good, but is it enough?

What actually counts with his base is showing how much of a loser he actually is:

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/07/historian-explains-donald-trump-worst-things-american-history-piled-together

Squinch

(50,934 posts)
15. And, sadly, we have to win by a margin that can't be reversed
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 11:23 AM
Jul 2018

by a few thousand flipped votes in each state.

brush

(53,758 posts)
26. And sadly we have to deal with people allegedly on our side...
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:22 PM
Jul 2018

constantly attacking the Democratic Party and primarying Democratic incumbents when the specter of a Russian takeover is staring us in the face if we don't stick together and go all in for party unity with our votes.

There's a much bigger picture than trying to swap out a sitting Democrat winner for another Democrat, or Democratic Socialist who has yet proven him or herself able to win a general election.

Guilded Lilly

(5,591 posts)
16. Being informed can be painful and frightening and most certainly...
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 11:35 AM
Jul 2018

Send the blood pressure to a scary high.
Rachel is the voice that informs, questions and warns. Will it be enough to sway the Stupid, ever?
I doubt it. They will eternally remain the intellectual dregs of humanity.

I cherish her, respect her and am in awe of her intelligence ...and am also sickeningly scared at what she dedicatedly informs us could so easily go down for our country if enough of us don’t use/keep our one weapon, our vote, in numbers too huge to hack or manipulate.

Saving this link for repeated sharing!

iluvtennis

(19,843 posts)
21. Orwell's 1984 is here under Trump....
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 12:02 PM
Jul 2018
The Party told you to reject the evidence of your eyes and ears. It was their final, most essential command


He's telling the American ppl not to believe what their eyes and ears heard during the Helsinki summit and now the White House has altered their version of the factual video to suit their narrative. Talk about propaganda.

usaf-vet

(6,178 posts)
34. Ok I know I'm not going to make DU friends with this post.....
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 01:23 PM
Jul 2018

But I can't listen to her podcast anymore.

She appears to like to hear herself talk. Last night with her three "SPECIAL" guest she spent more time talking than any single guest. Stuck at the end of the the show after telling us she was doing something different tonight.

At least 3 if not 4 times she named the guests. All potentially valuable airtime repeating names.

And one final annoyance for me what is with the school girl giggle. NOTHING is funny about the state of our democracy.

I now wait to hear Lawrence O'Donald's show "The Last Word" as he always follows up on her topic for the night.

IMO she used to have a great informative show. It seems to be less and less so as time goes on.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
37. She hates the panel format, so got hung up explaining why she assembled one for this show
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 01:36 PM
Jul 2018

It’s almost taboo for her, the only other time I saw that was the kids from The Florida high school massacre- and again she said it was a huge exception for her. I agree with her that most shows suck because of their reliance on panels. But I loved the show, her questions were incisive and there was a lot of context and detail I’d not seen anywhere else.

lunatica

(53,410 posts)
39. She's become one of the most reliable
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 12:48 PM
Jul 2018

shows there are. The measurement I use is the facts. I absolutely believe her when she says something. Very few political news shows do that but a few on MSNBC do and hers is among them.

And you don’t like her because you say she giggles? Well OK then!

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