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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsSteve Bannon is trying to change the face of the European Parliament - and we say bring it on
The author Sophie in 't Veld, is a Dutch politician
Well Steve, bring it on! We happily accept the challenge! In May 2019 at the ballot box, Europeans will face a clear choice about what kind of Europe they want to live in. A return to Europe's dark nationalist past, or a more unified, tolerant and democratic union of nations. My bet is Europeans will overwhelmingly show Bannon that we stand tall for our way of life and our values.
Steven Bannon and his European allies, like the governing Polish PiS government party, France's far-right leader Marine Le Pen, Viktor Orban, Nigel Farage, Geert Wilders as well as Dutch Christen Unie/SGP, want to pit European people against each other and sow the seeds of division in our societies. But more than that, they aim to dismantle all progress we have achieved.
In their joint political agenda, set out in the manifesto Restoring the Natural Order, they reject modern values like gender equality, LGBTQ+ rights, womens right to decide over their own bodies, stem cell research, freedom of religion and conscience, secularism, open and diverse societies, and more. In other words: they seek to turn back the clock. Women at the kitchen sink, gay people put back in the closet, the church ruling our private lives and middle aged white males holding all power.
https://www.independent.co.uk/voices/steve-bannon-europe-eu-orban-farage-le-pen-wilders-a8463021.html
Midnight Writer
(21,738 posts)syringis
(5,101 posts)Very true !
This is why we are already resisting, even before he starts to spread his hatred.
Also, I'm almost sure he will screw himself and open the way to shut him up.
Laws are not the same here. Yes, we have freedom of speech, but we are not free (gladly!!) to spread hate. Right wingers here chose very carefully their words and still, almost all of them were sued at one time or another, for hate speech.
Bannon has no clue how it really works. To top it all off, he picked my beloved "Hellhole" to locate his headquarters. For good measure, he took one of the most dubious lawyer, Modrikamen which is a great piece of shit !
So, come on Stevie, help yourself and try all our local beers, get drunk to death and experiment our code of manners against crap like you!
"Non au racisme, non à la xénophobie, oui à l'Europe, oui au multiculturalisme !" (No to racism, no to xenophobia, yes to Europe, yes to multiculturalism !)
No pasarán !
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)backing here in rather spectacular failure, couldn't get anyone who mattered to take his calls even if he'd been able to pay his cell phone bill.
Your "beloved hellhole" sounds like a fitting place for his attempt to rise again to emd. No headstone, please, just bury him head down.
DFW
(54,335 posts)A year ago, he was strutting around the White House. Six months ago, he was going to make Breitbart great again. Now, he can't even find (dirty) work in the USA. Germany has the most money, but violating the German laws forbidding Nazi-style propaganda are among the few things that can get you an actual jail sentence without using a firearm. I'm sure legal counsel told him to steer clear.
syringis
(5,101 posts)Voir débarquer ce connard de pochtron de merde me donne des envies de meurtre !
De toutes manières, il est d'ores et déjà dans le viseur de l'UE. Il va vite comprendre que ce n'est pas les US, que les Fox News, Breitbart, Infowars et autres conneries du style, n'ont pas droit de cité ici.
Si je me souviens bien, il a essayé d'implanter sa bouse de journal en France mais plus de nouvelles...
Franchement, je ne vois vraiment pas comment il faire. Ou bien il met de l'eau dans son vin (ironique pour ivrogne !) et sa ligne éditoriale ne sera qu'un torchon haineux de plus, ou bien il suit sa ligne éditoriale habituelle et là, il aura rapidement droit à une visite guidée du Palais de Justice (cette monstruosité locale!)
DFW
(54,335 posts)On pourrait le virer toute de suite pour simplement avoir traviallé sans un permit EU de travail!
Viré pour avoir agité contre les lois EU d'immigration--l'ironie parfaîte pour un con de républicain.
syringis
(5,101 posts)Fallait le faire quand même pour des nationalistes qui prêchent la préférence nationale, chez nous, ceci, cela, et autres conneries du même genre, de faire appel à un étranger pour les conseiller !
Cela dit, et ça risque de devenir "marrant", comme ils ne sont déjà pas unis et qu'ls partent dans tous les sens, ben c'est pareil pour le pochtron : ils se bagarrent déjà parce que tous ne veulent pas de lui...
Donc pour l'unité des pieds bots de la marche du temps, surtout si c'est cet abruti qui s'en charge, c'est pas pour demain !
J'ai toujours eu le plus grand respect pour les lois allemandes en matière de xénophobie. Je suppose que le passé y est pour beaucoup, mais c'est quand même un pays qui ne badine pas avec ça ! Chapeau !
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I wasn't happy to hear he was over there trying to cause trouble, but you make me hope he succeeds in ways he definitely doesn't intend.
(Chapeau! ? Hat? Whatever that means, sounds like it could be useful.)
bdamomma
(63,836 posts)Europe plays by different rules out there. They may spit you out.
syringis
(5,101 posts)I'm literally boiling !
It's not my field, so I asked my son and friends who are lawyers too, if there's a way to block him.
As long as he doesn't break the rules, it will be tricky. However, many are working on this. Let's see what can be legally done.
Now, will Bannon be able to not break the rules ? I'm really not sure. Remember, here Fox News and similar channels are not allowed. Breibart in UK has to temper its views.
Fake news, spreading hatred, Holocaust denial and so on, are totally forbidden.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)be heading that way. And there are the many ways other nations are addressing it to examine. This is a large, diverse nation, of course, but we won't exactly be inventing the wheel here. Americans accept freedom of speech being limited to forbid maliciously yelling "fire" in a crowd theater. We need no yelling fire in a crowded nation laws.
In the meantime, I deeply regret the danger our disorder poses to other nations and am very grateful what those standing strong in other nations means for us against our enemies. Including, as you say, all those working "on this." Thanks goodness.
Denzil_DC
(7,228 posts)Given the state of us nowadays, I think we're less inclined to say, "bring it on".
Kick him out, back to the mess he's made in the US, maybe.
syringis
(5,101 posts)Resistance is already set :
#BanBannon
He has chosen Brussels to locate his headquarters, and the crappiest lawyer in town (Modrikamen) !
Be sure we are watching at it very, very, very closely !
While I'm at it, I wholeheartedly wish the Millenium imbecility called "Brexit" to die on itself and see you stay with us, in EU.
Denzil_DC
(7,228 posts)Full solidarity with the resistance, but as you've gathered, we in the UK have plenty of homegrown/inbred problems of our own at the moment, and Bannon adding to stirring that up is the last thing we need.
I'm with AlexSFCA below, and #BanBannon should be more than a catchy hashtag - we've banned hate preachers before. I can't see how Bannon doesn't fit that description, "free speech" be damned.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)Elwood P Dowd
(11,443 posts)Ezior
(505 posts)Yeah, the EU parliament is not one of the most powerful parliaments on the planet, so I kind of understand where they are coming from.
In the past, EU elections have been used for "experiments" repeatedly. Because people were like "oh it doesn't really matter that much who's in that parliament, they have no real power anyway".
And others think "the EU is so far away, they don't have any influence on my live, I can stay at home and not cast my vote!". And then there's that (shrinking?) part of the population that simply hates the EU (because "Neoliberalism" and "Globalism" and "Lobbyism" etc), and if Bannon tells them to vote X to stick it to the EU, they might actually do it.
So I'm not too relaxed about this. Still, I'm looking forward to cast my vote for my favorite pro-EU party.
One good thing, is that EU Institutions are communicating better than they used to do in the past.
They already started to talk and inform on 2019 elections.
OnDoutside
(19,952 posts)caused a lot of these problems. It was too soon and no work was done, amongst the great unwashed, to explain how they were benefiting from the EU. I would like the EU leaders come out and officially say that is off the table for generations, but they will work on a more cohesive EU, while SHOWING people what they stand to lose by splitting.