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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsUK all-time high temperature record could be broken in the next 48 hours
It looks like the record of 101F could be broken this week, possibly in the South-East or East Anglia. Fortunately I live further up the East coast, where it has only been 86-90 during the day - but that's still more than enough heat for me... I really don't know how you guys cope with temps constantly in the 100s and 110s ! Looking forward to the thunderstorms predicted for Friday !
https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-44957090
Stallion
(6,474 posts)that's a major reason the South has had an economic renaissance in the last half-century
BUT you know you're getting a heat wave when the bill starts edging to $400 per month
BritVic
(262 posts)Denzil_DC
(7,230 posts)It's not at all common domestically, and hopefully never will be.
It's all very well, but A/C power consumption adds to the source of the problem, given where most power comes from at the moment.
JenniferJuniper
(4,510 posts)The AC was lovely and cool and meant I could keep the window closed and the street noise out.
Ligyron
(7,626 posts)Funny how that works.
JenniferJuniper
(4,510 posts)Sweet Caroline, no?
maxsolomon
(33,298 posts)AC = electricity demand = coal burning power plants = carbon emissions = ACC.
The South, from Carolina to LA, is built to defy to the weather, not work with it.
It cannot last.
It did make me laugh the other day when the met office issued warnings that temps could hit 86degF and everybody should stay indoors and close the windows and blinds.
We get that daily or higher in my part of Spain, I was thinking you should get out and enjoy it. I even think the temps are mild here compared to summer back in Oz.
But yeah, you guys are not used to it so please do check in on elderly relatives and neighbours, look out for your pets too.
BritVic
(262 posts)JenniferJuniper
(4,510 posts)hot is hot, regardless of the humidity level.
RandomAccess
(5,210 posts)OnDoutside
(19,953 posts)night.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,731 posts)That has to be miserable in a nation where air conditioning is rare and only needed very infrequently.
OnDoutside
(19,953 posts)I'm trying to get through 8-10 pints of water a day...at least the tap water is great here !
greatauntoftriplets
(175,731 posts)That's a good spring day in Chicago where that season lasts about three days and is a bridge from late winter into early summer. This year, it started in May. Take care. It's hot here, but I have air conditioning.
OnDoutside
(19,953 posts)haven't had that sort of weather since 1976. The green green grass of ireland is yellow ! No one wants to say it, but secretly people are hoping for a return to rain !
greatauntoftriplets
(175,731 posts)My sister and brother-in-law will be visiting Ireland for the first time in September. I'd hate to think that it won't be the shades of green that I've seen and talked about so much. I hope that it starts raining, too, but stops in mid-September.
OnDoutside
(19,953 posts)anything could happen this year. We always say that you are guaranteed 2 weeks good weather in May, the problem is that we don't know which 2 weeks !
Edit : Where are they headed to ?
greatauntoftriplets
(175,731 posts)As of now, they're going to Dublin, Cork (probably Kinsale on my recommendation), Abbeyfeale, County Limerick (my brother-in-law's grandmother was born there), either the Ring of Kerry or Dingle (I've recommended Dingle), the Cliffs of Moher, and Galway.
I'm not certain if they're going to Wexford or not to see where my great-grandfather and mother were from. The nearest town of any size is Bunclody. Go figure. My brother-in-law is eligible for citizenship, but doesn't want it. My sister and I are not, and would love to have it. Especially now.
OnDoutside
(19,953 posts)I'm in Cork, and I love going to Man Friday's restaurant in Kinsale. Fishy Fishy of course is also excellent. We love staying in Kenmare are visiting the surrounding area from there....Caherdaniel beach is fantastic. Dingle is great too.
Here are a couple sites worth looking at
https://www.irelandsancienteast.com/
https://www.wildatlanticway.com/home
greatauntoftriplets
(175,731 posts)I thought their itinerary was a bit ambitious. They want to do as much of the Wild Atlantic Way as they can, but just last week were considering going all the way up to Sligo and Donegal. At least they're now planning to spend just one night in Trim, which they're making a stop because they know someone from there. I told them that while they're in that area they should visit Newgrange. Ireland may be a small country, but there's a lot to see.
OnDoutside
(19,953 posts)would either go down the M11 to Bunclody or M8 to Cork, straight away. From there, go along the west cork coast into Kerry and up through Limerick...Bunratty ... Cliffs of Mother, Burren etc hit Galway for a night and then the motorway back to Trim and do Dublin last.
In Cork, Fort Camden and Spike island might still be open in September, but Cobh is worth a visit.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,731 posts)I think they're going to Dublin first, and will end up there to fly home. They've had hotel reservations there since May, then to Trim after that. After that, their plants aren't yet firmed up. They'll probably spend two nights in Galway becauese they want to take a boat trip from there to the Aran Islands and then to the Cliffs of Moher and Burren. That leaves in the early morning and lasts for about 10 hours, but sounds great. I think they've given up on going out to Clifden.
I haven't been to Cobh, but I hear it's beautiful. I have friends whose daughter was married there (her fiance overstayed his tourist visa and got deported, so they had to change their wedding plans.) Unfortunately, I don't think they'll have time to go to there and Kinsale.
OnDoutside
(19,953 posts)directions from a farmer, and the farmer says "well I wouldn't start from here !"
It's a personal choice but I would head south first and then around, but sure they'll learn by experience !!! If they were to head south first then heading north, they can always start at that finishing point next time, rather then diving in the middle and not seeing the north or the south at a relaxed pace.
The Aran Islands trip is excellent, and the weather should be ok too. Definitely forget Clifden this time.
In the Burren, you also have the Ailwee Caves which is worth a visit. Vaughans Anchor Inn in Liscannor is a nice place for lunch inc Chowder.
Cobh is beautiful on a sunny day where you can see the harbour mouth from the cathedral. My own granduncle left on the Titanic from there. You can get a ferry across to https://www.spikeislandcork.ie/ where a lot of convicts were held before being shipped out to Australia in the 19th century.
http://www.camdenfortmeagher.ie/ is open until Mid September.
http://www.cobhheritage.com/
There's a ferry at Rushbrooke (Cobh) across to Monkstown, which means a short cut to Kinsale.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,731 posts)I'll pass this information along to them. I've tried to go to the Aran Islands twice, but the weather was always too rough for the boat to run. Of course, the first time it was mid-November; the second time was a very stormy May and the first time I ever saw horizontal rain.
My great-great grandmother and her eight kids, plus a cousin, went directly from Wexford to Liverpool and then came to New York on the Robert Kelly. Did your granduncle survive the Titanic?
OnDoutside
(19,953 posts)enough, my research points to him having bought his ticket for a cousin of his, James, who was too ill to travel, and out of nowhere that cousin's grandniece just contacted me through Ancestry, from the US ! I'm really excited about it, as I'm hoping she might have some info from her grandfather, as her grandfather Daniel was supposed to stay on the farm. My suspicion is that James was so traumatised by what happened, he returned to the farm and never went to the US. His brother Daniel went instead, to send money back, to pay the mortgage on the farm.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,731 posts)But how fun that an American cousin has found you. I did the Ancestry test two years ago and was "found" by a distant cousin -- another American. We may have met once or twice as children, but neither of us remembers. She's been working on family genealogy for 20-odd years, but we haven't found anyone yet in Ireland who knows anything about our ancestors. She did discover where our common ancestor (my great-great grandfather) is buried. We've contacted the local priest there who is currently on holiday, but will look up death records when he returns. I'm hoping that he finds other family records.
Our ancestor reportedly came to Ireland with the first wave of the Norman invasion. Most of the other family surnames are also Norman-Irish, with third and fourth great grandmothers who had English names. My DNA test did show that I'm 5 percent English, so I guess that's where that came in.
Another time, I went to Ireland in late May-early June. The weather was perfect with almost no rain. But I didn't go to Galway that trip.
OnDoutside
(19,953 posts)(whisper - Protestant !) and all their history is there. My 41 times g-grandmother was Mary Boleyn, whose sister Anne was quite famous !
Have you seen this site, it's free and an Irish government site,
http://www.irishgenealogy.ie/en/
also
https://registers.nli.ie/ where a lot of the parish records are online.
We had rain yesterday !
greatauntoftriplets
(175,731 posts)Was your Boleyn ancestor one of her children whose father was rumored to be Henry VIII?
Some years ago, I was told that a great-grandmother's family name (Jordan) was Anglo-Irish. The person who told me this sneered as he said that.
Thanks for the site links. I'll forward them to the cousin who is such an excellent genealogical researcher. She's very good at this, and I lack the patience.
Congratulations on the rain! I bet it felt good.
OnDoutside
(19,953 posts)Anne ! Lucky for her !
I know there are Jordans here in Cork. Golden is a Jewish name but also an Irish name....my great grandmother was a Golden, which I think is connected to Goulding.
If your cousin needs any help from this side, please let me know and I would be happy to help.
Yes the rain has really helped...got a great nights sleep last night !
greatauntoftriplets
(175,731 posts)Otherwise, you wouldn't be here.
To an American, it's odd that names in Ireland tend to be associated with certain counties. When I was a kid, the Chicago Tribune used to publish a map of Ireland on St. Patrick's Day that showed which names came from which county. Until a few years ago, I never knew which country my family came from. Of course, now that I know, the paper doesn't print the map anymore. Oh well.
That's very nice of you to offer assistance in our efforts to locate family. I'll let me cousin know and see if she wants to do anything.
I hope that you get some more rain and that you have more good sleeping nights. They're wonderful. I'm just happy not to have to use the air conditioning on that kind of night.
Have a nice Sunday.
OnDoutside
(19,953 posts)The surname spread is still reasonably the same apart from the influx of people from all counties into Dublin. Google Ireland surname map, and you should get what you need. Also have a look at www.johngreham.com who has a great family history site.
greatauntoftriplets
(175,731 posts)Unfortunately, it's crazy expensive! It's $340 on Amazon US, and 75 pounds on Amazon UK. But I'll keep looking for it in hopes that I can find a cheaper copy. The cousin who is good at searching this stuff should have better luck than I did.
I do have Richard Roche's book "The Norman Invasion of Ireland", which contained some useful information.
Thanks again for the links. Did you get more rain yet?
OnDoutside
(19,953 posts)Is it the Hillary Murphy book ?
https://www.abebooks.com/products/isbn/9780906602072?clickid=14NwHB1dcS90QC002M3FY05kUkjXjjQ1C2dyRo0&cm_mmc=aff-_-ir-_-64682-_-77798&ref=imprad64682&afn_sr=impact
An aunt of mine ran a bookshop in New Ross for many decades, and my cousin has been looking into his family history down there, on his father's side. I checked out a few things for him and discovered a cousin of his in the US, who worked for the CIA at one time !
greatauntoftriplets
(175,731 posts)I'm retired and my income isn't what it once was. But I'll keep checking and see if it becomes affordable.
Running a bookstore would be great fun. I'd probably buy a lot of the stock myself. A long time ago, I applied for a job at the CIA. Never heard from them about it, but I've often wondered what the job would have been. The town I live in has a used bookstore called Centuries & Sleuths, which specializes in history and detective novels. Great place.
Hortensis
(58,785 posts)I hate to think of what's happened and happening to beautiful gardens everywhere. All but really tough flowers are burnt up at 80+ degrees or so, but of course that's the least of it.
Sentath
(2,243 posts)Our tomatoes on the back patio have given up and let all their leaves turn brown. Mom pitched them a couple days ago. Even 1/2 day shade couldn't save them.
The miniature roses will survive and the mint will come back for the fall.
BritVic
(262 posts)The worrying thing is I have seen very few bees around...usually I will get quite a few that go off course and fly into my flat through the open bay window, but I have had hardly any do that this year.
csziggy
(34,136 posts)I live in North Florida and there have only been a few years since 1972 when the temperatures were over 100 F for very long. It is not unusual for the heat index to be in the 90s but this year we've been sort of lucky. Almost every afternoon and evening we've been getting thunderstorms that cool things down, though the humidity is so high it condenses on our skin when we walk outside!
wonkwest
(463 posts)Most homes near the Bay don't have air conditioning. We just don't need it. Hell, it's the end of July here, and I'm walking out the door in heavy jeans and a hoodie.
But when that 106 weekend came last year, utterly miserable.
We were in boxers with every fan on high and drinking ice water. I almost went into work just for the AC.
malaise
(268,913 posts)Denmark and Sweden. Others weighed in. Several folks died in Greece from heat related fires.
Remember now - no climate change
The Velveteen Ocelot
(115,669 posts)It has to be particularly miserable to deal with that kind of weather if you don't have air conditioning.
lapfog_1
(29,199 posts)it will be 110F tomorrow