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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsNew poll shows Trump approval rating at 48 percent
http://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/398796-poll-trump-approval-now-at-48-percentI wish I could say this surprises me, but it doesn't, in fact it's depressingly pretty much what I am seeing.
I visit various of my client's facilities several times a week and deal with numerous people throughout the day ranging from various backgrounds and education levels, not many people have anything good to say about either party, or government in general, but they're not sure a party that is primarily interested in focusing on fighting for people who are in this country illegally will be any better.
I'm not saying they are right, I'm just telling you exactly what I am seeing, the Democrats are allowing Trump to frame the narrative, and the narrative is all about Trump, nobody knows what the Democrats stand for other than what he is saying, because that is what he media keeps repeating over, and over again.
Trump should be down by at least 20 points, but right now there is no other subject or people being discussed other than Trump
The Democrats are blowing this opportunity by not having a message that resonates with voters other than "Trump is bad", everyone already knows Trump is bad, it's time stop spending 24/7 discussing Trump and a get a coherent message out to voters about what Democrats have to offer voters, and not what Democrats have to offer people who can not vote, or do not vote.
marylandblue
(12,344 posts)Sorry, if I am not ready to panic yet.
brush
(53,764 posts)PoorMonger
(844 posts)Brought to you by thehill tv ? Meh its just another R heavy slanted garbage poll I bet. Just like Rasmussen
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)Not buying it, thanks.
MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)Why would Trump be higher than he ever was, even after the NK bump? doesn't make sense. Not accepting this poll.
(38% is still too high)
Squinch
(50,949 posts)Iliyah
(25,111 posts)beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)Let's keep doing what we did in 2016 because it worked out so well.
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)beachbum bob
(10,437 posts)Democrats voted for the winner and stein voters gave the election to trump.
mythology
(9,527 posts)More Sanders supporters voted for Clinton in the GE in 2016 than Clinton supporters voted for Obama in 2008. The roughly 10% who didn't is in line with previous presidential elections.
Act_of_Reparation
(9,116 posts)It's easier to blame that 10%, milennials, Sanders, primaries, or the Russians for the entirety of the loss than admitting Democratic strategists miscalculated Trump's chances of winning several key states and failed to encourage several key demographics to turn out. We're just going to keep whining about irrational and unreliable people not being rational or reliable enough for our liking. We're just going to keep ignoring the fact that getting people out to vote is our job.
MaryMagdaline
(6,853 posts)Sorry, we were let down by some pretty slack Americans with no sense of civic duty.
Squinch
(50,949 posts)LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)It's an efficient fallacy when often use when we lack objective evidence to support our own premise, regardless of the irrelevancy of your attitude.
But yeah, I get it: gotta keep that narrative going! Nice job on that, if nothing else.
RhodeIslandOne
(5,042 posts)Why is this poll right?
NCTraveler
(30,481 posts)http://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/398580-poll-majority-of-americans-say-the-would-not-vote-for-a
http://thehill.com/hilltv/what-americas-thinking/398796-poll-trump-approval-now-at-48-percent
JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)...it's opinion pieces and other materials tend to lean right. See below.
msongs
(67,395 posts)bearsfootball516
(6,377 posts)Doodley
(9,088 posts)European parties are, and Repubs would be extreme right. The media is way to the right across the board, when millions of people losing healthcare and babies being separated from their parents aren't dominating the news agenda. These things would not be accepted by the media elsewhere.
peggysue2
(10,828 posts)48% and is a C+ rated poll. Nate Silver has adjusted to weighting and come in with 41% on that particular snap shot.
The far higher-rated polls have been coming in with approval #s below 40%.
Who you gonna believe?
If the Trumpster and his enablers have their way it won't be your lying eyes or ears.
My suggestion? Reduce your reliance on snapshot polls (even the feel-good ones), energize your friends, your neighbors and family and put your shoulder to the wheel to roll over the GOP in November.
We can do this. Because we must.
Awsi Dooger
(14,565 posts)I agree it looks like 48% in 538's table. I initially read it at 48%. But that's a problem with font and color scheme. It is actually 46%, and adjusted downward to 41%, as you indicate.
I don't care about isolated polls. We need Nate's poll consensus to drop below 40% like late 2017. The recent trend has been downward, dropping a full point.
peggysue2
(10,828 posts)I went back and checked and it is indeed 46%. Rasmussen is always outside the other polls and routinely has that C-C+ rating.
Yes, I too would like to see the compilations drop lower though I think we'll have to settle that 30-40% of the population will stick to the Trumpster, no matter what. So, our strategy--rather than dwelling on polls, any polls--is to energize our voters and those leaning in our direction to flood the polls in November, working as if we were 10 points behind.
As I said before:
We can do this. Because we must.
gratuitous
(82,849 posts)The rest of the United States? Not so much.
Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)but that is not what I am seeing on a day to day basis among working class people, if the DNC continues to ignore it and waste their time chasing Trump's laser pointer around instead of getting a coherent message out to voters, expect Republicans to keep control of all three branches of government. if the DNC doesn't get it's act together and focus on winning the districts that matter like Putin did in 2016, I can easily see Democrats picking up huge margins in heavily blue districts in November and still not being able to swing the districts that matter
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)If you're unable to read the plainly written coherent message by the DNC, that's on you and no one else, regardless of the laser pointers you're fascinated by..
(but to be clear: that's merely what "I'm seeing...", and we all know anecdotal evidence is, at best, the last refuge an unsupported conclusion )
JaneQPublic
(7,113 posts)...One of the participating operations, Harris, is rated only as C+, both as Harris Interactive and as Louis Harris and Associates.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/pollster-ratings/
Fla Dem
(23,650 posts)Detailed Results at link.
https://poll.qu.edu/national/release-detail?ReleaseID=2557
Quinnipiac poll is a very respected poll.
ismnotwasm
(41,976 posts)What message do you think the Democrats have? Fighting Trump is a political necessity if we are to go forward with anything like actual legislation.
Snake Plissken
(4,103 posts)whatever it is its lost my the tsunami of Trump that they are willful participants of.
And honestly I really don't care what it is because there is zero chance of me even considering voting for a Republican, but that is not what I'm seeing among a surprisingly large amount of people, do not underestimate Trump's con game, because the vast majority of Americans are not interested in spending the time to educate themselves, they will take what ever the media feeds them and right now all that's on the menu is Trump all day, all night, all the time.
ismnotwasm
(41,976 posts)I just know that my personal Democrats, both at state and local level, are working their asses off. There is no one size fits all. Democratic leaders, and Democrats everywhere are also working hard. I guess it depends on what you pay attention to. One thing Trump is very good at, is sucking all the oxygen out the room. There is lots of other things going on besides Trump. I am very very lucky in my state and my representative, and my senators, and my governor, and even my states Attorney General.
budkin
(6,699 posts)Who the fuck are these guys?
DrDan
(20,411 posts)leftynyc
(26,060 posts)and who is paying for this brand new poll that nobody has ever heard of?
Yo_Mama_Been_Loggin
(107,920 posts)However if other polls trended this way I might worry.
Scurrilous
(38,687 posts)NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)by not covering Democratic responses.
the same thing happened in 2008 - Trump got the headlines every single day because every day there was an outrageous tweet, a crazy statement at a rally or a new Trump scandal emerging. No matter how many good speeches she gave and how many good things she did, Clinton was basically ignored until the DNC email "scandal" broke.
coti
(4,612 posts)titaniumsalute
(4,742 posts)Refer to real polls and aggregates like these two reliable sites.
https://projects.fivethirtyeight.com/trump-approval-ratings/
https://www.realclearpolitics.com/epolls/other/president_trump_job_approval-6179.html
Why post an unknown poll from an unknown company? I could ask 100 people on the street the same question. But that wouldn't be a scientific poll and shouldn't be posted and debated on DU or anywhere else.
Skidmore
(37,364 posts)HarrisX to provide leading insights into key telecom markets and mobile device usage
Mark Penn to act as Chairman and Dritan Nesho named CEO of HarrisX
Mark Penn, political pig...need we say more
Recursion
(56,582 posts)Marist and Quinnipiac both have him under 40.
If you stuck with 2016 party ID, I could see getting a result like this, but self-identification as a Republican has taken an absolute dive in the intervening year and a half.
Kaleva
(36,294 posts)Trump did give out the order to ignore what one hears with their own ears and sees with their own eyes because everything is actually going great.
Mainstream polls are showing that Trump is taking a drubbing and the odds of Dems taking the House are good.
We are flipping red seats to blue in special elections. Hell, we won a US Senate seat in ALABAMA of all places.
But the OP tells us to ignore what we see and hear.
ProfessorGAC
(64,995 posts)"The results are then weighted for age within gender, region, race/ethnicity, marital status, household size, income, employment, education, political party, and political ideology where necessary to align them with their actual proportions in the population".
We have zero idea how the weighting was done, and whether there is any statistical merit to the approach.
If the data is properly stratified, then randomly sample within the strata, why would one even need weighting? Unless of course, one was trying to get a specific result.
Yes; i'm accusing them of that.
Approval rating went down in 2 polls just yesterday. Then this outfit nobody has ever heard of uses methodology nobody knows and gets a different number.
Pretty suspicious.
honest.abe
(8,677 posts)It sounds like a bogus polling operation setup to spew out doctored data favorable to Trump and Republicans.
http://www.stagwellgroup.com/press/press-release-stagwell-media-llc-acquires-select-mobile-research-assets-nielsen-launches-harrisx/
coti
(4,612 posts)maxrandb
(15,320 posts)manipulate voters in 2016 too. Not surprised to see it starting in 2018.
But you're right...Donnie Shit for Brains does take the air out of the room, much like a fart.