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DonViejo

(60,536 posts)
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 04:22 PM Jul 2018

The emoluments case is the nightmare Trump has long feared

By Jennifer Rubin
July 25 at 1:56 PM

The Post reports:

A federal judge on Wednesday rejected President Trump’s latest effort to stop a lawsuit that alleges Trump is violating the Constitution by continuing to do business with foreign governments.

The ruling, from U.S. District Judge Peter J. Messitte in Greenbelt, Md., will allow the plaintiffs in the case — the attorneys general of Maryland and the District of Columbia — to proceed with their case, which says Trump has violated the Constitution’s little-used emoluments clause.

The plaintiffs now want to interview Trump Organization employees and search company records to determine which foreign countries have spent money at Trump’s hotel in downtown Washington.


This is the nightmare — or one of them — that Trump has long feared, namely litigation in which his business operations, perhaps even his tax returns, are laid bare. Norman Eisen, who is co-counsel with the District and Maryland, tells me, “It is another major crack in the dam that has so far been holding back accountability. [Special counsel Robert S. Mueller III] is closing in; [Michael] Cohen is about to cut a deal; and now we have taken another leap forward in being able to understand how Trump is profiting off the presidency, including possibly from Russia.” He adds, “‘Follow the money,’ the old adage goes, and we are going to do exactly that thanks to this decision.”

The decision, running over 50 pages, is an impressive, detailed analysis of the Constitution and 18th century language. This is a judge who did his homework. The ruling is the inevitable result of Trump’s decision to maintain ownership of his far-flung business operations and to continue to reap the benefits, foreign and domestic, resulting from his presidency. (Ivanka Trump sure seems prescient in her decision to dump her clothing business, which raises many of the same issues of conflicts of interest and foreign emoluments as her father faces.) The court held: “Plaintiffs have convincingly argued that the term ’emolument’ in both the Foreign and Domestic Emoluments Clauses, with slight refinements that the Court will address, means any ‘profit,’ ‘gain,’ or ‘advantage’ and that accordingly they have stated claims to the effect that the President, in certain instances, has violated both the Foreign and Domestic Clauses.” In doing so, the court rejected Trump’s argument that an emolument is only an emolument if the president gives the foreign government something in return. The court explained:

The text of both Clauses strongly indicates that the broader meaning of “emolument” advanced by Plaintiffs was meant to apply. As Plaintiffs point out, the Foreign Clause bans, without Congressional approval, “any present, Emolument, Office, or Title, of any kind whatever, from any King, Prince or foreign State.” U.S. Const. art. I, § 9, cl. 8 (emphasis added). Use of such expansive modifiers significantly undermines the President’s argument that this Clause was meant to prohibit only payment for official services rendered in an employment-type relationship. If there were any doubt as to the limits of the Foreign Clause, the Framers used the word “any” twice, ensuring a broad and expansive reach. The President’s argument that these modifiers merely ensure that the Foreign Clause bans receipt of every type of “present,” “emolument,” “office,” or “title” is unconvincing. Even without the inclusion of the modifier “of any kind whatever” in the Foreign Clause, it would still ban every type of prohibited category because it provides no exceptions. If “no word was unnecessarily used,” as the President argues … his own position runs aground. The more logical conclusion is the one that Plaintiffs urge: The use of “any kind whatever” was intended to ensure the broader meaning of the term “emolument.”


The court cited approvingly Maryland and D.C.’s argument that “the purpose of the Clause was to prevent the least possibility of undue influence and corruption being exerted upon the President by foreign governments. … That is, the Framers created a prophylactic rule to prevent the slightest chance of such influence.”

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hlthe2b

(102,228 posts)
1. Please credit Laurence Tribe and Norm Eisen (https://www.citizensforethics.org/) on this
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 04:23 PM
Jul 2018

They are a tremendous team and have presented an impressive argument.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
6. Tribe is one of the foremost constitutional law professors
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 05:10 PM
Jul 2018

of the last 50 years - he supposedly would have been a leading choice for SCOTUS if Mike Dukakis had won in 1988.

Raster

(20,998 posts)
2. One good thing to come from this ABOMINATION of a Presidency...
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 04:29 PM
Jul 2018

... is that stuff that was taken for granted and just assumed in reference to Presidential acts and behavior will now need to be structured and codified. tRump* has shown that ANY AND EVERY area that could be weaseled and finagled would be so done.

MyOwnPeace

(16,925 posts)
4. Good start!
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 04:36 PM
Jul 2018

My blood pressure goes up every time I see IQ45 going off to one of his golf courses (what's he averaging, once every fourth day?).
We have to pay for golf carts, fees, etc. for Lardo plus the Secret Service crew, etc, etc, etc!!!!!

So we're paying all of this money to places that he owns and profits are all going into his pockets.

Ain't America great......................

SonofDonald

(2,050 posts)
9. As I read in another post..
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 05:58 PM
Jul 2018

If he and his sons have to relinquish control over his businesses then someone else could take over.

And get a look at his books....

Now that would be interesting wouldn't it?.

mitch96

(13,892 posts)
12. "Trump has long feared, litigation in which his business operations "
Wed Jul 25, 2018, 07:26 PM
Jul 2018

even his tax returns, are laid bare"

It's all about the money with this guy.. money, money, money.. Go after his money and his families money and he will run like the cur he is...

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