Is "Outercourse" the new "Affluenza"?

[Siwsan]

Brock Turner Appeals Rape Conviction With Argument He Only Wanted ‘Outercourse’

A lawyer for convicted rapist Brock Turner attempted to overturn the former Stanford University swimmer’s assault conviction during an appellate court hearing in San Jose, California, on Tuesday.

Attorney Eric Multhaup argued to three appellate court justices that his client only wanted “outercourse” ― sexual contact while fully clothed, he explained ― not intercourse, The Mercury News of San Jose reported. Multhaup told the justices that Turner never intended to rape the woman, who was identified only as “Jane Doe” throughout the trial.

Turner filed an appeal to California’s 6th District Court of Appeal in December after being convicted in March 2016 of three felony sexual assault charges including attempted rape. At the time, his lawyers argued that the trial was “a detailed and lengthy set of lies.”

Now, Multhaup is trying to specifically overturn the felony charge of attempted rape. Mercury News reported that the panel of justices “appeared skeptical of [Multhaup’s] argument.”


https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/brock-turner-appeals-rape-conviction-by-arguing-he-only-wanted-outercourse_us_5b588afae4b0fd5c73cabcc4

[chowder66]

1. Fucking disgusting. nt

[Siwsan]

2. In retrospect, that should have been contained in my subject line

As in "Is Outercourse the new Affluenze or just a fucking disgusting (ir)rationalization".

[chowder66]

7. I can't believe you got me to chuckle after that. Wonders never cease or something. nt

[brush]

12. Outercourse? Ridiculous. It would still be sexual assault on an unconscious woman.

What the hell do his lawyers think this ridiculousness will accomplish?

[mythology]

13. They are hoping some of the bullshit sticks

Apparently their theory is he wouldn't have to register as a sex offender if he only molested her. Which if true is a loophole that should be closed.

[irisblue]

3. Buzzfeed.com

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/tasneemnashrulla/brock-turner-only-engaged-in-outercourse-with-sexual

If you tap on the link, there is a long article, Turners picture, picture of the original judge who let him out after 3 months and many comments.

[Solly Mack]

4. No. It's the same old misogyny as usual.

People, some - and certain types - have always tried to claim if it wasn't a brutal rape with vaginal tearing and bruises over the body - then it wasn't really sexual assault...or that bad.

Dry-humping an unconscious person is sexual assault and it does make a person a sexual predator. So not even that argument changes anything.

But people who hate women have always argued that if it wasn't their idea of rape then is wasn't that bad.

Well, when they're not blaming the victim and they always seem to get around to both.

[PoliticAverse]

5. That's a question of "fact" that his lawyer should have argued to be decided by the jury.

The appeals court will be deciding on matters of law.

Better article that has more specific details on the appeal argument:
https://mv-voice.com/news/2018/07/24/appeals-court-hears-arguments-in-brock-turner-case

[kcr]

14. Jury already decided.

It says right in the article you linked that the judges rejected the argument that he was clothed, based on a Supreme Court ruling. In other words, this is going nowhere.

[ck4829]

6. Outercourse is fun for everyone involved... when you have consent

Otherwise, it's sexual assault... like what Brock Turner did.

[flotsam]

8. Didn't he have any friends on the swim team...

...that would let him dry hump their leg???

[smirkymonkey]

9. Disgusting pig!

[Journeyman]

10. If I remember correctly, the woman was unconscious, so the only 'course' permissible . . .

was to help her safely home, which for everyone's protection would involve the assistance of other people as soon as possible.

Seems something a Stanford student -- even one who's a jock -- could easily discern.

[Squinch]

11. Oh, good. Now they're making up cute jargon for sexual assault. Assholes.

[Arkansas Granny]

15. Sexual assault is still sexual assault regardless the cutsie name you use.

Outercourse, my ass. My jaw literally dropped.

[PoliticAverse]

16. Yes, but he's contending the conviction for "attempted rape".