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RandySF

(58,788 posts)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 12:05 AM Jul 2018

CA-SEN: Feinstein leads de Leon 46% - 24%




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CALIFORNIA
U.S. Senate:
Dianne Feinstein (D) 46%
Kevin de León (D) 24%
Other, unsure 29%
(Public Policy Institute of California, LV, 7/8-17/18)
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CA-SEN: Feinstein leads de Leon 46% - 24% (Original Post) RandySF Jul 2018 OP
Sleep tight... brooklynite Jul 2018 #1
I am puzzled by your comment. Care to enlarge on it? CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2018 #3
Feinstein will be sleeping soundly going into November. brooklynite Jul 2018 #32
Thanks, but I'll bet she'll be out campaigning at least a little. CaliforniaPeggy Jul 2018 #35
I agree with you. She should run through the finish in what likely is her last political race. nt Blue_true Jul 2018 #40
... skylucy Jul 2018 #2
not to be ageist but she's 85 years old. Demovictory9 Jul 2018 #4
Yeah well RandySF Jul 2018 #6
ok... as long as Calif has a dem Gov to fill her seat if she retires before age 91 Demovictory9 Jul 2018 #8
We're California RandySF Jul 2018 #12
we voted in Arnold Swarzenegger. Ronald Reagon. Pete Wilson. Demovictory9 Jul 2018 #13
I didn't vote for any of those assholes. onecaliberal Jul 2018 #16
Keep in mind because of our insane jungel primary there was almost a 100 candidates running for still_one Jul 2018 #28
there were a zillion on my ballot during the primary this year. don't think it can't happen again Demovictory9 Jul 2018 #30
I was referring to the time when Arnold got in for Governor. For Senator there was something like still_one Jul 2018 #31
The ballot was extremely long and there were lots of candidates in a few races. onecaliberal Jul 2018 #34
it's been solid blue in recent years. Arnold was the only one that republicans JI7 Jul 2018 #24
Swarzenegger got in because of the damn Davis recall which was pushed by a bunch of rightwing still_one Jul 2018 #27
Only Arnold after Prop 187 who was pro immigration -1.30 mark DemocratSinceBirth Jul 2018 #36
That will be Gavin Newsome (D) DiFi is older but she's still sharp. onecaliberal Jul 2018 #15
Oh yeah? Was it just a negative case for Cha Jul 2018 #21
and at this critical time we need that seniority in the Senate. She is part of a lot of committees still_one Jul 2018 #9
ok. good to know. Demovictory9 Jul 2018 #10
I hear you, and it is favorable that Newsom will be the Governor, and while your speculation is a still_one Jul 2018 #14
She is healthy and active, and has gravitas. Blue_true Jul 2018 #41
The California Democratic Party should not have endorsed anyone. Their vote was not representative still_one Jul 2018 #5
Progressives (you know who) packed the endorsement meeting RandySF Jul 2018 #7
I sure do. They also do not appreciate the value of a Senator with seniority in the Senate means still_one Jul 2018 #11
Yeah, from what I've seen Cha Jul 2018 #22
yup, it's all entertainment for them JI7 Jul 2018 #25
Yes, and some here were trying to insinuate that was a huge crisis R B Garr Jul 2018 #37
Please use some other term but progressives for them, they are wholly unworthy of the term. Blue_true Jul 2018 #42
+1000 Pachamama Jul 2018 #23
The head of the party there is an Our Revolution type. Blue_true Jul 2018 #43
My family (3 generations of Dems who vote) BigmanPigman Jul 2018 #17
I was wavering between the two until a recent de Leon interview on CNN RandySF Jul 2018 #18
I was just writing about you. BigmanPigman Jul 2018 #19
It is referred to as the jungle primary, and I hate, hwever, it does not apply to Presidential still_one Jul 2018 #26
YaY! Tarheel_Dem Jul 2018 #20
I was hoping DeLeon would be stronger SkyDancer Jul 2018 #29
It was obvious he wouldn't be. Hoping petty gossip sinks an established, R B Garr Jul 2018 #38
Good ... DiFi should get in Raine Jul 2018 #33
I hope that she stomps him a new asshole. Blue_true Jul 2018 #39
He has stepped on a bunch of Democratic toes in the state Brother Buzz Jul 2018 #44

CaliforniaPeggy

(149,597 posts)
35. Thanks, but I'll bet she'll be out campaigning at least a little.
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 12:59 PM
Jul 2018

De Leon may have scared her a little.

RandySF

(58,788 posts)
6. Yeah well
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 12:37 AM
Jul 2018

I saw de Leon on CNN recently and he didn’t even try to make a positive case for himself.

onecaliberal

(32,848 posts)
16. I didn't vote for any of those assholes.
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 12:59 AM
Jul 2018

Gropinator got in with the smallest vote in California history. We learned from that fiasco. Brown got in and fixed the mess he and repukes left.

still_one

(92,185 posts)
28. Keep in mind because of our insane jungel primary there was almost a 100 candidates running for
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 04:08 AM
Jul 2018

governor, a lot of them doing it as a joke.

there is a lot of danger with that, and in fact that is similar to how tha nazi got the republican nomination, because they had so many candidates who wouldn't get out of the race earlier, even though they had no chance, and they split the vote among each other, and trump's racist alliance stuck together. If some of those candidates who had no chance had dropped out earlier, I think there would have been a different republican nominee

still_one

(92,185 posts)
31. I was referring to the time when Arnold got in for Governor. For Senator there was something like
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 06:02 AM
Jul 2018

20 some candidates this year.

onecaliberal

(32,848 posts)
34. The ballot was extremely long and there were lots of candidates in a few races.
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:54 AM
Jul 2018

I’m not sure we could end up with a Nazi here but I would never say never.

JI7

(89,248 posts)
24. it's been solid blue in recent years. Arnold was the only one that republicans
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 03:25 AM
Jul 2018

had a chance with and he won becsuse people thought it would be cool to have the terminator as gov .

still_one

(92,185 posts)
27. Swarzenegger got in because of the damn Davis recall which was pushed by a bunch of rightwing
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 03:57 AM
Jul 2018

assholes, and then a bunch of other idiots and celebrities decided to run for governor. I think there were almost 100 candidates for governor

It is insane, and makes the ballot a mess



onecaliberal

(32,848 posts)
15. That will be Gavin Newsome (D) DiFi is older but she's still sharp.
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 12:58 AM
Jul 2018

She has pissed me off many tines, but she has been a good senator for our state and one of a few willing to call out repukes at this time.

still_one

(92,185 posts)
9. and at this critical time we need that seniority in the Senate. She is part of a lot of committees
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 12:40 AM
Jul 2018

that are critical at this time

She has gotten an unfair bashing by some who have no idea what she has done so nice she was Mayor in San Francisco after the Moscone Milk killings

still_one

(92,185 posts)
14. I hear you, and it is favorable that Newsom will be the Governor, and while your speculation is a
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 12:55 AM
Jul 2018

real possibility, if that should happen the odds are good the a replacement would not only be a Democrat, but very progressive to boot

I am just looking to get through the next 3 years, where hopefully in 2020 the whole dynamic will change toward Democratic control. That is where I am coming from

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
41. She is healthy and active, and has gravitas.
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 01:26 PM
Jul 2018

DeLeon fucked up, he should have waited until 2024. As things are now, he most likely will get his ass kicked every way but Tuesday and be out of the picture in 2024. My guess is in 2024, if Newsome does not make a bit for President by then, he will run for the senate seat and let his understudy take over as Governor.

still_one

(92,185 posts)
5. The California Democratic Party should not have endorsed anyone. Their vote was not representative
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 12:35 AM
Jul 2018

Last edited Thu Jul 26, 2018, 03:50 AM - Edit history (1)

of most of the Democrats in the state, and while anything can happen in November, those currently on the committee do not represent the Democratic base of the state, Feinstein specifically asked those on the committee who support her to not endorse anyone

still_one

(92,185 posts)
11. I sure do. They also do not appreciate the value of a Senator with seniority in the Senate means
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 12:43 AM
Jul 2018

for California at this critical time

R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
37. Yes, and some here were trying to insinuate that was a huge crisis
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 01:05 PM
Jul 2018

for Feinstein, but it really was just another transparent glimpse into their attempts to toss the clear voter preference, Feinstein.

This is yet another confirmation that the so-called national "superdelegates" aren't an issue, as those "progressives" would clearly try and take a very popular Senator and force her out just to get their way regardless of what the voters are clearly telling them.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
42. Please use some other term but progressives for them, they are wholly unworthy of the term.
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 01:29 PM
Jul 2018

Bloviating Jackasses sound about right to my ears.

Pachamama

(16,887 posts)
23. +1000
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 03:16 AM
Jul 2018

Hopefully after this debacle of endorsing Leon against Feinstein they will learn that lesson in the future....

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
43. The head of the party there is an Our Revolution type.
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 01:31 PM
Jul 2018

They packed the docket there and essentially threatened the party. Hopefully this debacle leads to them being purged from having any influence.

BigmanPigman

(51,588 posts)
17. My family (3 generations of Dems who vote)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 01:19 AM
Jul 2018

had this discussion during my birthday dinner 3 weeks ago. Who should run and who stands a chance of winning with the popular factors like "new blood" verses "experience".
Feinstein has seen 13 SCOTUS justices being grilled in DC. She already has had her staff ready to fight Kavanuagh with 100% focus. I voted for DeLeon so that the only choices for the state to have a Dem senator would be the result (Dem vs Dem and not Dem vs GOP). That is how it works now. Basically I like both of them and my family is split. However, I am a Dem and am happy as long as either Dem holds office. "ALWAYS VOTE STRAIGHT TICKET AND DOWN BALLOT FOR DEMS", this is my family's motto.

RandySF

(58,788 posts)
18. I was wavering between the two until a recent de Leon interview on CNN
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 01:22 AM
Jul 2018

Clearly not ready for the big leagues. I'm voting for Dianne (my third time).

BigmanPigman

(51,588 posts)
19. I was just writing about you.
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 01:27 AM
Jul 2018

Are your ears/eyes burning? Under Videos on the DU home page there is a video by Robert Reich and he brought up a new (to me) voting strategy and wanted to ask you about such things.

"I am in CA and our primaries are unusual. I think it is the top two candidates who have the final vote tallies regardless of party that determines who the final candidate would be in the election (I think). Reich's idea makes sense, as usual, therefore it will not happen. I am not quite clear on this type of voting strategy in CA, but I bet RandySF could explain it.

https://www.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1017&pid=503295

still_one

(92,185 posts)
26. It is referred to as the jungle primary, and I hate, hwever, it does not apply to Presidential
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 03:54 AM
Jul 2018

office primaries, all the other offices though

There were 20 some candidates running for Senate in the primary, and the ballot was confusing and a mess, and you have to be very careful that you select the correct candidate. The order is not alphebetical.




R B Garr

(16,950 posts)
38. It was obvious he wouldn't be. Hoping petty gossip sinks an established,
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 01:10 PM
Jul 2018

popular Senator is a fool's errand. Maybe this will sink his career.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
39. I hope that she stomps him a new asshole.
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 01:20 PM
Jul 2018

All he has done is insure that in 2024 after DiFi has chosen not to run again, another democrat from California will be in a far better position to win the seat than him.

Brother Buzz

(36,421 posts)
44. He has stepped on a bunch of Democratic toes in the state
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 02:43 PM
Jul 2018

If there came a time for the governor to appoint a replacement for Feinstein, de León would not be on Newsom's short list

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