Michael Avenatti Claims New Info Cohen and Trump Were 'Concerned About a Pregnancy' and Cohen Has...

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Michael Avenatti Claims New Info Cohen and Trump Were ‘Concerned About a Pregnancy’ and Cohen Has Evidence

by Caleb Howe | Jul 26th, 2018, 7:40 am

Attorney for Stormy Daniels, Michael Avenatti tweeted at around 3:20 a.m. that Donald Trump and his then-personal attorney Michael Cohen were “concerned about a pregnancy” and that Cohen “has evidence and info” in his possession. He also said that Cohen “conspired” with Trump to pay off “multiple” other women, and that there is “new evidence” of all this.

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Avenatti has suggested several times before that there was a pregnancy, and implied on Morning Joe earlier this year that it was Donald Trump, and not former GOP fundraiser Elliott Broidy who was actually involved with Shera Bechard, but he does not say in the tweet that he is referring back to his prior unsubstantiated suggestions.

However, when a Twitter user asked by reply if there was “new evidence’ to make this “breaking” as Avenatti tagged his tweet, Avenatti replied “yes.”

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[bearsfootball516]

1. Michael is unconventional...but he rarely says things that don't wind up being true.

He likes to talk on Twitter, but everything he says always gets backed up a week or two later when something leaks.

[dalton99a]

13. +1

[NewJeffCT]

31. He also gets a lot more airtime

than Schumer, Pelosi, Hoyer and Durbin combined (the top two Democrats in the House & Senate)

[manor321]

2. This should get interesting!

[bdamomma]

3. I wouldn't doubt

he passed his sperm (yuk) to impregnate some young woman. What a POS he is.

[Cosmocat]

9. And paid for abortions

over and under being double digits ...

[Upthevibe]

15. I just think if there was proof, wouldn't it have

come out by now?

[hurple]

10. You know

He's absolutely paid for multiple "pro-choice procedures" in the past.

If that gets out, I believe the evangelical portion of his base will abandon him.

And, you just know that Cohen has the evidence.

[bdamomma]

11. Welcome to DU

I would like the evidence to be spilled.

[Chemisse]

16. I doubt the abortions would turn off the Trumpites.

With people like them, it's always a little different when it's your OWN unwanted pregnancy. I suspect they'll overlook it.

[SDJay]

23. Same Here.

They wouldn't care. The fundies I know would absolutely have their own daughters abort as opposed to having a child. We've already seen that these "Christians" are complete and utter hypocrites when it comes to their messed-up definition of morality. One definition applies to everyone else, but their own standards are quite malleable. Worst case, they make a tearful plea for forgiveness and their slate is magically clean.

[erronis]

26. Ditto that. Well stated.

Having been married to one I understand well their hypocrisy.

[SDJay]

51. That Must Have Been Difficult.

I have a few in my family. When I'm forced to see them - holidays, weddings, occasions, etc. - they invariably start spewing their hate. Brown people, poor people, foreigners, women... everyone but white men EXACTLY like them get sprayed with vitriol at some point. Yet when one of their miscreant kids fucks up, it's just a test from Jeebus that they always pass with flying colors by asking for forgiveness.

One of the worst reactions I ever got from this crew was after I had a few too many at a wedding several years ago. I asked them, after listening to their invective for quite some time, where in the bible it says that all you need to do is spend an hour per week pretending to be Christian such that you can be a hate-filled asshole the rest of the week. A pregnant pause followed and then a whole lot of angry hypocrites starting yelling. I actually enjoyed it and haven't spoken to several of them since.

Fuck them.

[erronis]

59. Good for you. Sometimes you can just toss out the total losers with a few well-chosen words.

Reserve your energy for those that seem to actually want to listen/reason.

Actually, it wasn't too bad since the evangelical part of that family was geographically distant and each one of them had more sins in their books than I could even want to achieve.

Nice to have this chat!

[SDJay]

60. Likewise. Have a Great Day. NT

[CozyMystery]

28. No they won't. They think God chose him, and

that he has since become sinless.

This, based on what I've read and have no link to. It so shocked me that it stuck in my brain, is all.

[volstork]

68. If that gets out, I believe the evangelical portion of his base will abandon him.

Not a chance. There’s a Teabagger republican representative here in Tennessee, scott desjarlais, who is a physician. He impregnated an employee, who was also a patient AND one of his cousins ( so many levels of ethical turpitude). This was well-known before the election, and he was RE-ELECTED ANYWAY. The knuckledraggers don’t care.

[cab67]

71. Alas, I highly doubt it.

They've already argued that the shaved orangutan's past affairs are "in the past" and "have been forgiven" and whatnot. They'll say the same about abortions.

[KPN]

72. Don't count on it. They believe God works in

“mysterious ways” ... and often conflate that with mystifying ways.

[FakeNoose]

18. He strikes me more as the type of guy

...who makes the woman take all the responsibility for birth control. It's not like he goes around deliberately impregnating women. Far from it, a kid costs money! But why should he have to wear a condom if the women is taking the pill like she should be?

It's his self-centeredness, which we see every day. This all fits the pattern.

[barbtries]

22. Stormy and McDougal

both said that he did not wear a condom.

[FakeNoose]

24. It's so hard to find the correct size

[barbtries]

25. lol

[nolabear]

37. At least it's single shot...

[klook]

70. Snubnose size!

Or derringer, if you prefer.

[Mrs. Overall]

4. I'm still skeptical about Broidy and the playboy model and her pregnancy pay off by Cohen.

Did Broidy take the fall for Trump on that one?

[salin]

8. he stopped payment (cuz it was in the news), she is suing (or was?) and 3rd party

sources deny that she has ever met Trump. Or so it was reported a couple of weeks ago:

https://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/shera-bechard-playmate-donald-trump-elliott-broidy_us_5b45635fe4b048036ea39bfd

[ScratchCat]

39. I've seen that before,

but has anyone actually established a link between Bechard and Broidy? Where on earth would Broidy have met her? To me, it makes no sense that Broidy was having an affair with a Playboy model.

[Achilleaze]

5. republican family values are unendingly sordid

Can't they find anyone better than Dirty Donny* to be the family values role model for their children and grandchildren? Sad.

* aka republican Draft-Dodger-in-Chief

[vi5]

7. No. See ,my post right below.

It was never about family values or morality and it never will be.

[vi5]

6. Again....it won't matter.....

These people are "family values" hypocrites.

There were many of us who knew this from day one, and many of us who pointed out that they didn't really believe in any of the bullshit they were saying as far back as the Clinton years. But all the very wise people who determine our course and direction as a party insisted that we needed to indulge them, and try to appeal to them and do all this stuff that was predicated on the myth that these people really did care about morality, and values, and the traditional family and the sanctity of marriage and all of that.

They didn't. They don't. And they never will. And we've wasted the better part of 25 years having to pretend these people were serious and sincere.

They are racist, amoral misogynists whose only goal is to keep down non-white people, and to subjugate women and stop them from having sex. It was never about morality. It was never about the "sanctity of life". It was never about the importance of family or the tradition of marriage. And anyone who ever thought that for a single second, and ever advocated that we try to appeal to them is a fool.

[Chemisse]

17. That is so true. n/t

[Duppers]

30. For most of them that's ABSOLUTELY TRUE.

Excellent rant!

[ProfessorGAC]

34. Hopefully(!)...

...and i mean HOPING, that abortions will change some minds. They may not vote for D's, but they may just stay home.

[cilla4progress]

54. Absolutely!

Goes without saying also that any FOOL who believed trump was serious, adult, or capable of a pivot (remember that?], was seriously deluded.

[vi5]

56. And the "values voters" as well....

...it was obvious to anyone with a functioning head that all these moral majority types were not moral nor did they have any particular values beyond hating liberals and Democrats. Period.

Trying to pander or reach them in any way was always a fools errand. But I guess lots of people got paid lots of money to tell our candidates and politicians otherwise, so here we sit today, with the world around us proving what many of us knew and said as far back as the 90's.

[wiggs]

62. Correct. Having affairs and paying them off is winning, in their minds. The base wants to identify

with a winner, above ALL else.

Other things that count as being a winner: spousal abuse, sexual assault, stiffing contractors, campaign cheating, lying in plain sight, revisionist history, claiming victory where none such exists, empty photo ops, taking credit for someone else's achievements, punching down, infidelity, having your wife stand by your side after infidelity, making wild claims about your personal wealth while hiding facts, shooting someone on the streets of New York, using nerve gas to poison your opponents, etc.

The roadmap for an effort to erode his base, if needed, should take the above into account. Pretty sure that a strong GOTV on election day would mean we don't need the 25% of the nation that need an abusive, racist father figure to feel good about themselves.

Yes, the tapes won't matter wrt his base...but it will help reasonable people get to the polls. So it will come down to a numbers game that will hopefully turn out differently than 2016.

[oswaldactedalone]

69. And BOOM Goes the Dynamite

Well said and totally on point.

[PearliePoo2]

12. Wow! How does he get this stuff? Someone in Cohen's camp leaking?

Look for BLOTUS to become even MORE unhinged (if that's possible).

Wonder when 3rd Lady will finally take a hike with son in tow?

[Duppers]

32. That's what I've been wondering.

Guess she doesn't see the news.

[Totally Tunsie]

66. Supposedly, she's been watching CNN

much to Donny's dismay.

[Major Nikon]

41. I suspect Cohen is leaking details through Avenatti

It makes perfect sense if you think about it. What better way to fight back against his former employer who turned on him.

[PearliePoo2]

46. Everything is one big "cluster" if it involves BLOTUS. I read that Cohen got his feelings hurt BAD!

He thought he was like family!

He actually thought he was going to Washington DC! He thought "Boss" was going to give him a job in the White House!

He thought WRONG! He got DUMPED instead!

If Cohen is so pissed that he's leaking juicy dirt to Avenatti, you couldn't script this any better! Freakin' dream come true!

If so, it makes MY day! Thanks for your post!

[Major Nikon]

50. I'm sure he had good reason to believe those things

That's how Trump operates. He promises people things because he knows that will motivate them to do things for him. Meanwhile he never has any intention of following through with those promises. In reality he takes joy in not doing so as it makes the manipulation complete.

The funny part is Trump's GOP sycophants keep describing him as "fiercely loyal" to his people. Kinda shows how morally bankrupt they are when they perceive classic sociopathic behavior as loyalty.

[Bernardo de La Paz]

43. Avenatti issued a public call for evidence & said he'd protect "whistleblowers" who give it to him.

That would be something: first White House divorce.

[PearliePoo2]

53. Yes, that's right! I remember now that he said his phone rings off the hook!

As far as fake first lady, you have to wonder how much humiliation she can take (with lots MORE coming on the horizon!)

You also wonder what prenups there are? What about custody of Barron? I doubt that the serial adulterer gives a shit about his son, but the sadistic bastard could use him as a tool to inflict pain or leverage on Melania.

Hell, he could even have Melania deported!

Maybe she would hire Avenatti for her divorce and deportation proceedings!

[Totally Tunsie]

67. It wouldn't surprise me to hear that she already has her own attorney

who is in daily negotiations with Donny's "guy" just to keep up this sham of a marriage.

"Accompany you on a trip? OK...this is what I want for it."
"Hold your hand in public? This is what I want." Etcetera, etcetera.

She's obviously smarter than he is, and probably craftier too. She'd be smart enough to have her side covered and in place (at least I hope so). They deserve all the misery they have coming.

[duforsure]

73. I agree ,

And was her recent disappearance maybe a breakdown over all this ? Is she also hiding affairs of hers? Is he holding that against her? Nothing would surprise me at this point from either one of them. Would he threaten her with deportation ? Absolutely. He enjoys hurting people, even children.

[FakeNoose]

45. I think he's got some friends

...who are impressed with how he handles the media.
Avenatti's good and clever, he's well-prepared and thinks on his feet.
Lucky for us, he's on our side.

[PearliePoo2]

47. "Lucky for us, he's on our side". Man, ain't THAT the truth!

Avenatti is on a freakin' ROLL!

Rock on Michael!

[Grasswire2]

49. I suspect that she can't take Barron.

I suspect that the reason she's still with Trump is that he has custody of Barron tied up in an agreement. She leaves, Barron stays with Trump. Also, perhaps if she leaves she loses money.

[PearliePoo2]

57. I have similar suspicions as well!

I wrote some thoughts in my post #53!

[FakeNoose]

58. You may be right, but his other divorces were different

In his other divorces (t)Rump had no interest in keeping his kids. Or if he did, there wasn't much of a fight. All his kids went with their moms, not him. He's a terrible parent anyway.

I'm guessing there would be NDA's and payments stipulated in the event of a split-up. There has been some talk on DU that he probably set up a trust fund for Melania and Barron, since he'll surely die first. Also there's speculation that she's really Putin's agent and she's just doing her job. Sort of like the recent movie Red Sparrow.

[bitterross]

14. Won't Matter to his Cult. They'll excuse it somehow.

While this might impact voting of some independents it won't matter to his base and the evangelicals if he paid for abortions. It just won't. They've excused every other act he's done.

They'll say "It was in the past" and "he's doing the right thing now by appointing pro-life judges" and then they will go on supporting him.

[Kablooie]

55. Women in his base will be jealous.

I'm sure many of them would love to have Trump's baby and then get paid by him.

[magicarpet]

19. trDump has renewed his vows to Jesus, he is a new man...

.... The evangelicals pray with trDump in the Oval Office and trDump rules the USA with Jesus constantly looking over his left shoulder. Almighty God and Jesus protect America and keep trDump honest and in line to make America a Christian country.

Praise be the Lord, praise be America, and praise presi-Dunce trDump.

Amen.

[triron]

20. knr

[DeminPennswoods]

21. On the released recording, Cohen refers to "David"

Most people think "David" refers to David Pecker of AMI/National Enquirer. But what if "David" instead refers to the pseudonym "David Dennison" that's used in both the Clifford/Daniels and Broidy NDAs? It's really not clear to which person Cohen is referring. If it's the pseudonym "David", then the pregnancy claim makes sense. But, only Cohen can tell us which it is.

[Tarc]

27. Doubtful. There's no reason for Cohen to use code words in a private convo

Obviously Cohen knew it was being recorded, but Trump did not. There's no reason to use pseudonyms in that context.

If anything, Cohen would go out of his way to spell out the details in these situations, as he knew his might need it for a cover-your-ass situation, i.e. what he's in right now, down the road.

[PearliePoo2]

29. That was my thought too! Hopefully this will all come out soon!

[Grasswire2]

48. .....that's what Seth Abramson has been saying.

Media people have assumed it's Pecker. Shouldn't do so. "Our friend David...." likely means Dennison (Trump).

[DeminPennswoods]

64. Listening to the recording, it sounds like a very familiar

conversation - that is, the two men are talking in sort of a shorthand that both know what the other means, like they've had similar discussions before on the same topic. That's why, to me, the "our friend David" phrase sounds like it's accompanied by a wink and a nod - it's an inside joke - and why I think it might refer to the pseudonym.

Less seriously, it's too bad David Pecker is an actual name because that would've been the perfect pseudonym for Trump.

[marieo1]

33. New evidence

I totally trust and believe Michael Avenatti. I have listened to him many times and have always found him to be truthful. Something you sure can't say about DJT. Avenatti is also a brilliant lawyer/man, something you sure can't say about DJT. Go Michael Avenatti!! He is level-headed, not a rambling fool like DJT!!

[Liberalagogo]

35. Evidence:

[Grammy23]

36. I guess we will see how serious the base is about their Pro Life views

If and when it comes out that tRump paid for multiple abortions. They have already accepted that tRump was a “naughty boy”, a horn dog, back in the day. He is just a little scamp, huh? Always out chasing skirts, I think is how it used to be put. They already know this about him, so will abortions from these encounters be enough to say, Enough?? Guess we will have to wait and see. But my guess is that some will fall away but a lot of them will learn about this detail and just accept it as one more bit of evidence that tRump gets around. Hell, some of them might even be envious at his ability to have these encounters. Sigh.....

[Bernardo de La Paz]

44. Not serious (hypocrites). See the miscarriages of migrant women in detention. . . . nt

[bucolic_frolic]

38. I'm not a gamblin' man myself

but where can I get odds on Avenatti closing this deal? London?

[FakeNoose]

42. Avenatti seems to get very good tips

I think that certain people are impressed with his bulldog attitude in the media, and they're feeding him tips that have paid off. It's not the only reason for his success, because he's also very smart and quick on his feet. Avenatti has been dealt some good cards and he's playing them well.

[Scurrilous]

40. K&R

[Vinca]

52. So far everything Avenatti has said has been found to be correct.

In addition, it seems he is in a rare class of people not routinely trashed by Trump which tells me he's got the goods and that the DVD he has held up in the past has something juicy on it.

[triron]

61. His record is good.

[jcgoldie]

63. I like Avenatti but..

Find it just a bit disturbing that he shares Trump's tweeting schedule.

[LudwigPastorius]

65. Nice to think that Barron might have a little brother, or sister, to play with.

Donald, Jr. never could get the hang of Chutes and Ladders.

[Jarqui]

74. Let's do the math (ie follow the money)

Trump discloses payment to Cohen in financial form
https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/16/politics/trump-financial-disclosure-report/index.html

"In 2016, expenses were incurred by one of Donald J. Trump's attorneys, Michael Cohen," read a footnote on the form, which was released by the Office of Government Ethics. "Mr. Cohen sought reimbursement of those expenses and Mr. Trump fully reimbursed Mr. Cohen in 2017. The category of value would be $100,001-$250,000 and the interest rate would be zero."

Trump submitted the document on Tuesday, the deadline for administration employees to file their financial documents. The agency reviewed the form and made it public on Wednesday.

Trump's representatives said in the document that revealing the payments made to Cohen was not necessary by law, instead saying they were listing them "in the interest of transparency."

The ethics office seemed to disagree, annotating the document: "OGE has concluded that the information related to the payment made by Mr. Cohen is required to be reported and that the information provided meets the disclosure requirement for a reportable liability."

So following that logic, where are the payments (or footnotes) for McDougal and the other three women paid off by AMI or the National Enquirer (one of them referred to in the audio of Cohen-Trump meeting) ?

The pregnant woman would have received a bundle - tougher to hide.
Hard to believe the National Enquirer killing such a story out of the goodness of their hearts - this is probably where they make their big profits.