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riversedge

(70,182 posts)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 03:05 PM Jul 2018

Claiming Trump Has 'Declared War,' Feds Rally to Fight Back Against Executive Orders




Claiming Trump Has ‘Declared War,’ Feds Rally to Fight Back Against Executive Orders

https://www.govexec.com/pay-benefits/2018/07/claiming-trump-has-declared-war-feds-rally-fight-back-against-executive-orders/150038/?oref=river

By Eric Katz July 25, 2018



Hundreds of government employees gathered outside a courthouse in downtown Washington on Wednesday to protest President Trump's executive orders that changed the rules governing the federal workforce, calling the measures an assault on the civil service and a threat to democracy.

Workers, union representatives and lawmakers rallied behind the cry of Red for Feds, with protesters draped in the color to show their collective support. A federal judge on Wednesday was set to hold the first hearing in a consolidated lawsuit brought by more than a dozen labor groups representing federal employees, challenging the constitutionality of three executive orders Trump signed in May. The orders seek to streamline the firing process, exempt adverse personnel actions from grievance procedures, speed up collective bargaining negotiations and severely limit union employees’ ability to conduct representational activities while on the clock in their federal jobs.

Speakers at the rally said the pending fight against the Trump administration was an existential one for the federal civil service and their unions, but expressed optimism their side would prevail.

“Right there in that courthouse it will be decided if we will be going on,” American Federation of Government Employees president J. David Cox said at the rally, held in the shadow of the U.S. District Court for the District of Columbia, where Wednesday’s hearing was being held. “I don’t know about you, but I plan on kicking ass and taking names.”

Employees from agencies across government gathered at the event, holding signs that read “EO hell NO” and “These executive orders are illegal!” The crowd chanted “red for feds,” “we fight for workers rights,” “vote them out” and even “lock them up.” An array of Democratic lawmakers spoke at the rally, including leadership in both the House and Senate.

“The hard right has tried to make you the scapegoat,” Senate Minority Leader Chuck Schumer, D-N.Y., said. “They have tried to say you don’t work hard enough . . . they have tried to say you get paid too much.”........
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Federal workers protest President Trump's executive orders curbing civil service protections in Washington prior to a federal court hearing that will consider the scope of the administration's authority. Federal workers protest President Trump's executive orders curbing civil service protections in Washington prior to a federal court hearing that will consider the scope of the administration's authority. Eric Katz/GovExec




Veterans, VA employees rally against Trump’s workforce orders





Federal workers rally in support of the American Federation of Government Employees on July 25, 2018 in Washington, D.C.

CAROLINE HURLEY/STARS AND STRIPES


By NIKKI WENTLING | STARS AND STRIPES Published: July 25, 2018

WASHINGTON — Hundreds of federal employees, including some workers from the Department of Veterans Affairs, rallied Wednesday at about the same time a court case began to fight anti-union executive orders signed by President Donald Trump in May.

The executive orders, which went into effect this month, limit union employees’ ability to use official time, shorten collective bargaining negotiations and encourage agencies to fire employees, instead of merely disciplining them. The American Federation of Government Employees and other federal unions argue the orders are unconstitutional....
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Education Dept. Illegally Curbed Workers’ Union Protections, Mediators Suggest


Education Secretary Betsy DeVos has been the most aggressive of cabinet secretaries in following an executive order issued by President Trump that required cabinet heads to shrink the federal footprint.CreditTom Brenner/The New York Times

By Erica L. Green

July 24, 2018

WASHINGTON — Federal labor mediators have advised the Education Department that it most likely imposed new work rules on its employees illegally, curtailing workers’ protections and access to union representation in violation of federal law.

The American Federation of Government Employees said Tuesday that the Federal Labor Relations Authority advised the Education Department that it had engaged in “bad-faith bargaining” when it implemented a contract this year that gutted compensation and benefits provisions for the department’s 3,900 employees, and limited employees’ ability to carry out union duties during the work day.





The decision could have broad implications because the Education Department’s actions mirror Trump administration efforts throughout the federal government. The Social Security Administration and the Department of Veterans Affairs have begun implementing work rules similar to the ones at the Education Department, union officials said. And many of the anti-union elements reflect a series of executive orders on the federal work force that President Trump signed in May.

The union plans to use the finding as it pursues labor disputes across the federal government.


“For the first salvo to be knocked down by the F.L.R.A., it sends the message that the government isn’t going to be allowed to operate outside the bounds of the law,” said David A. Borer, general counsel for the union.
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Claiming Trump Has 'Declared War,' Feds Rally to Fight Back Against Executive Orders (Original Post) riversedge Jul 2018 OP
Where in the hell was the Media? Wellstone ruled Jul 2018 #1
Hiding BlueJac Jul 2018 #2
Too busy attending Trump's appearance at the VFW gratuitous Jul 2018 #4
Exactly. iluvtennis Jul 2018 #26
great question - where has the media (most of it) been since well before election day 2016? NRaleighLiberal Jul 2018 #6
Meant to put this here.... 2naSalit Jul 2018 #17
Google jayschool2013 Jul 2018 #25
Nothing on National Media. Wellstone ruled Jul 2018 #27
Point taken jayschool2013 Jul 2018 #36
Too busy worrying about access. calimary Jul 2018 #34
This is the biggest story today malaise Jul 2018 #3
exactly!!!!!! heaven05 Jul 2018 #18
Should be the lead story everywhere malaise Jul 2018 #21
K&R ck4829 Jul 2018 #5
K&R Scurrilous Jul 2018 #7
Dutifully ignoring this...nt 2naSalit Jul 2018 #8
I don't think you meant to reply to the OP. n/t rzemanfl Jul 2018 #14
Oh phoooey, you're right! 2naSalit Jul 2018 #15
kick barbtries Jul 2018 #9
K&R. From a former federal employee. politicaljunkie41910 Jul 2018 #10
Same here...nt 2naSalit Jul 2018 #16
It's going to be tough to survive as a citizen under traitor Donald. keithbvadu2 Jul 2018 #29
Right on. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #11
Wisconsin and Scott Walker was the trial run. n/t rzemanfl Jul 2018 #12
And not just for this. n/t malaise Jul 2018 #30
True. n/t rzemanfl Jul 2018 #32
Shock Doctrine, state by state - going national soon! CrispyQ Jul 2018 #38
Well said. rzemanfl Jul 2018 #39
As soon as tRump identifies a group he makes an enemy of it. Except Russian GRU agents. . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #13
I know it's become a cliche, but I gotta ask: how many of these people refused to vote for Hillary? NBachers Jul 2018 #19
Do you really think they would admit their ignorance? BigmanPigman Jul 2018 #22
Yeah, I've got to figure that the unions were involved on our side; hopefully so anyway. NBachers Jul 2018 #23
K & R n/t They_Live Jul 2018 #20
Remembering when Republicans railed against Obama's Executive Orders bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #24
KICK FOR SOLIDARITY! orangecrush Jul 2018 #28
"...they have tried to say you get paid too much." Pay the legislators the magnificent rate of $15 keithbvadu2 Jul 2018 #31
K&R. dchill Jul 2018 #33
K&R... spanone Jul 2018 #35
when pres obama made his presidential orders the Rs hated them, AllaN01Bear Jul 2018 #37

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
4. Too busy attending Trump's appearance at the VFW
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 03:17 PM
Jul 2018

And being suckered by his press "availability" where the White House could play tough guy and kick a reporter out of the gathering.

NRaleighLiberal

(60,013 posts)
6. great question - where has the media (most of it) been since well before election day 2016?
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 03:20 PM
Jul 2018

Oh yes - playing "both sides do it" false equivalence and selling useless products with endless adds for all of the eyeballs.

Turning TV off 10 years ago was one of the best decisions we did.

malaise

(268,856 posts)
3. This is the biggest story today
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 03:17 PM
Jul 2018

It should have 1,000 recs and it should be on every newscast and news show.

malaise

(268,856 posts)
21. Should be the lead story everywhere
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 04:12 PM
Jul 2018

The civil service/bureaucracy is a critical component of any democracy.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
10. K&R. From a former federal employee.
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 03:32 PM
Jul 2018

I would not have been able to survive as a federal employee with him as Commander-in-Chief.

CrispyQ

(36,445 posts)
38. Shock Doctrine, state by state - going national soon!
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 12:02 PM
Jul 2018

And our country voted for this! We didn't have to be invaded by a foreign army, we've been voting "free market" right wing I-got-mine-fuck-you nutjobs into office for 30+ years.

And where's the media on that fucking lie—the free market. It's not a free market. We have privatized profits & socialized risk. I'm not saying an industry should never be bailed out, but don't chortle about the fucking free market & hate on the human "takers" of society while not recognizing the corporate ones, & how much more they gorge at the trough.

BigmanPigman

(51,582 posts)
22. Do you really think they would admit their ignorance?
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 04:12 PM
Jul 2018

Some people never learn. If they voted for the moron...that is on them. No sympathy from me. However, if they are pro-union and real workers' rights and voted Dem, then I support them.

bucolic_frolic

(43,116 posts)
24. Remembering when Republicans railed against Obama's Executive Orders
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 04:21 PM
Jul 2018

because they knew "Obama is coming for your guns!" when he gets done visiting his Kenyan homeland.

keithbvadu2

(36,731 posts)
31. "...they have tried to say you get paid too much." Pay the legislators the magnificent rate of $15
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 05:41 PM
Jul 2018

"...they have tried to say you get paid too much.”

Pay the legislators the magnificent rate of $15 an hour.

For the time they are in session or in their office only.

They consider $15 a princely sum.



AllaN01Bear

(18,112 posts)
37. when pres obama made his presidential orders the Rs hated them,
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 11:26 AM
Jul 2018

now with he who shall not be named is in office , how many now and countin?

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