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riversedge

(70,215 posts)
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 07:47 PM Jul 2018

Kaine, Gardner, Reed, McCain Introduce Bill To Prevent The President From Leaving NATO

I hope this bill passes.


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Proud to intro bill w/ @timkaine @SenCoryGardner & @SenJackReed to ensure that no president can withdraw from #NATO without the constitutionally required advice & consent of the Senate — a body that overwhelmingly supports the transatlantic alliance.






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July 26, 2018
Kaine, Gardner, Reed, McCain Introduce Bill To Prevent The President From Leaving NATO

WASHINGTON, D.C. - Today, U.S. Senators Tim Kaine (D-VA), Cory Gardner (R-CO), Jack Reed (D-RI), and John McCain (R-AZ) introduced a bipartisan bill to explicitly prohibit the President of the United States from withdrawing from NATO without Senate approval. The bill requires the President to seek the advice and consent of the Senate to modify or terminate U.S. membership in NATO and formalizes the Senate's opposition to withdrawing from the treaty. If the President attempts to withdraw from … Continue Reading
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Kaine, Gardner, Reed, McCain Introduce Bill To Prevent The President From Leaving NATO (Original Post) riversedge Jul 2018 OP
I didn't think that it needed an explicit bill Caliman73 Jul 2018 #1
thank gawd... this is too little & far too late, but at least it is a start. hlthe2b Jul 2018 #2
Still plan on voting Gardner out in 2020 Greywing Jul 2018 #10
Hell yes. He's a lying anti-choice weasel. hlthe2b Jul 2018 #11
Still can't believe he won over Udall ... Greywing Jul 2018 #12
Oh, boy, yes... I lost a dear dear elderly friend over that election who, despite liberal leanings hlthe2b Jul 2018 #14
Never thought I'd be saying this, but can John McCain be a Hero twice in his lifetime? politicaljunkie41910 Jul 2018 #3
I do not think he is a hero at all for doing this. pangaia Jul 2018 #7
Shame to those who think this. Haggis for Breakfast Jul 2018 #18
The real shame is that he's all we've got consistently fighting against the other side with its politicaljunkie41910 Jul 2018 #19
I would question his "consistency." pangaia Jul 2018 #20
Jesus. This is like introducing a bill that the president shouldn't bomb New York. SunSeeker Jul 2018 #4
The world we live in for the moment. But not for long!!! Squinch Jul 2018 #6
Bingo! c-rational Jul 2018 #8
+1 leftstreet Jul 2018 #13
Good on the senators; who would have thought we'd be at this point. appalachiablue Jul 2018 #5
Think about all those warnings on a ladder... RainCaster Jul 2018 #9
WTF is going on in this upside down country?? Hulk Jul 2018 #15
This bill is like waving a red flag at a bull bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #16
That seems to be his MO. BigmanPigman Jul 2018 #17

Caliman73

(11,738 posts)
1. I didn't think that it needed an explicit bill
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 07:58 PM
Jul 2018

I can see why they are doing it. Trump cares nothing for the rule of law. However isn't it already in the constitution that the Senate ratifies and has final say on treaties?

hlthe2b

(102,267 posts)
2. thank gawd... this is too little & far too late, but at least it is a start.
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 07:59 PM
Jul 2018

Even my little weasel Senator, Corey Gardner is showing a minimum of spine.

Greywing

(1,124 posts)
10. Still plan on voting Gardner out in 2020
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:32 PM
Jul 2018

took a very large amount of money in his 2014 campaign from NRA ...

hlthe2b

(102,267 posts)
14. Oh, boy, yes... I lost a dear dear elderly friend over that election who, despite liberal leanings
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:39 PM
Jul 2018

pushed for Gardner (he'd clearly been watching at least some and too much Fox). He even fell for Gardner's protestations that he was not rabidly anti-choice. It broke my heart as we never really got past that disagreement and he died about 18 months later. He was a really great guy otherwise.

One of those political rifts that will never heal, sadly.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
3. Never thought I'd be saying this, but can John McCain be a Hero twice in his lifetime?
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 08:10 PM
Jul 2018

I wish him the best of health. There is a reason that God has kept him around holding on this long. Maybe his purpose is to keep Trump at bay as long as he can. Best Wishes and continued good health to you, John McCain.

Haggis for Breakfast

(6,831 posts)
18. Shame to those who think this.
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 10:50 PM
Jul 2018

John McCain is dying of cancer as I write this. He could have taken his diagnosis and retired to whatever time he has left to live in peace and solitude, away from the theatrics of the Senate and the near-hysterical mania of what has become of the republican party. Instead, he chose to remain at the helm, doing what he can to keep this russian-compromised gas-bag from destroying our alliances and demolishing our democracy.

And I, for one, appreciate the effort.

politicaljunkie41910

(3,335 posts)
19. The real shame is that he's all we've got consistently fighting against the other side with its
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 04:58 PM
Jul 2018

combover leadership.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
20. I would question his "consistency."
Sat Jul 28, 2018, 06:05 PM
Jul 2018

But you are right, if he is the best repubs have....
we're in deep shit






We're in deep shit.

SunSeeker

(51,552 posts)
4. Jesus. This is like introducing a bill that the president shouldn't bomb New York.
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 08:27 PM
Jul 2018

Honestly, if you need to pass laws like that, it is time to just remove the president. You wouldn't need all these protective laws if we didn't have a traitor in the White House.

RainCaster

(10,872 posts)
9. Think about all those warnings on a ladder...
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 09:32 PM
Jul 2018

Do not stand on the top step
Do not place this in a puddle and grab a light bulb
Do not sit on the paint shelf
Do not eat pizza while climbing this

These all got there because of stupid law suits. They show a sad history of how our "justice" system works.

Now history will be recording all the guidelines placed on future presidents because of the gutless wimps in GOP leadership.

 

Hulk

(6,699 posts)
15. WTF is going on in this upside down country??
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 10:00 PM
Jul 2018

We have to have Congress introduce bills to prevent this mad man from sending nukes to Iran?...molesting immigrant children ripped from their parent's arms as they are caged and lost in the country?....Sweet Jesus....do you see what is going on down here? Send us a rope!!

bucolic_frolic

(43,161 posts)
16. This bill is like waving a red flag at a bull
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 10:02 PM
Jul 2018

Trump will double down, cut funding, tweet, issue executive orders ... this bill won't stop him. I don't think Presidents already have the ability to abrogate treaties. And if they have to pass one about NATO, it sort of implies other treaties are vulnerable.

BigmanPigman

(51,590 posts)
17. That seems to be his MO.
Thu Jul 26, 2018, 10:11 PM
Jul 2018

He is predictable sometimes (not often though). I like to say that he is consistently inconsistent.

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