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OH WAIT THAT WAS 2014Fred Sanders
(23,946 posts)The Consumer Price Index for All Urban Consumers (CPI-U) increased 0.1 percent in
June on a seasonally adjusted basis after rising 0.2 percent in May, the U.S.
Bureau of Labor Statistics reported today. Over the last 12 months, the all items
index rose 2.9 percent before seasonal adjustment.
BLS
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)Are GDP Figures adjusted for inflation?
It is important to keep in mind that the GDP figures as reported to investors are already adjusted for inflation. In other words, if the gross GDP was calculated to be 6% higher than the previous year, but inflation measured 2% over the same period, GDP growth would be reported as 4% or the net growth over the period.May 1, 2017
The Importance Of Inflation And GDP - Investopedia
https://www.investopedia.com/articles/06/gdpinflation.asp
ProfessorGAC
(64,852 posts)GDP growth is reported 2 ways: nominal and real.
Nominal is the straight up C + T + NE + I. Consumer spending plus government transfer payments + Net Exports + Gross Investment.
The real growth is based upon the adjustment due to the changing value of the money after inflation.
Nominal growth does not take inflation into acccount, but real growth does.
Typically, the media reports are nominal growth, but not always. Have to read a little deeper to figure out which they're reporting most of the time.
DemocratSinceBirth
(99,708 posts)1) Anyway these numbers are subject to revision and that number might have been inflated by hording ahead of Trump's tariffs.
2) Wage growth is stagnant.
3) We are seeing signs of incipient inflation
4) Housing is soft. This can portend the ominous.
5) We have seen this movie before, one or two good GDP quarters before they revert to their recent level of 2%. Water rises to its level.
Where do you see GDP going ?
ProfessorGAC
(64,852 posts)I'm concerned that the tax cut for the other 99% is so small that it will be spent, not saved, but it won't be enough for substantial durable goods purchases. So, that could be an inflationary trigger. Not necessarily so, but a concern.
Wage growth stagnation isn't new and hasn't been for 15 years or more. In fact, given inflation, there is wage contraction in most industries. While that keeps prices down and inflation low, it still begins to affect consumption overall and that is a drag on nGDP. But, it's been going on for a long time and the GDP keeps inching up, so i'm not sure we have the data to support the theoretical in this case. (Just like the super low unemployment numbers in the late 90's failed to trigger inflation the way the UofC types expected.)
Inflation as reported doesn't include daily energy. So, the gas prices being up have a drag on other spending. This is actually a brake on inflation because there are fewer dollars chasing after the same goods. Once again consumption goes down which slows nGDP.
I think most economists who don't buy supply side believe the biggest concern in soft housing is unemployment. No new housing, no jobs. The plummeting of income by those workers has a huge effect on C, once again, braking GDP.
Since gasoline and diesel are part of GDP, the higher prices there offset the lower consumption in other areas. So, the GDP doesn't suffer growth restraint immediately. Takes a while before it actually affects the numbers to a statistically significant degree. That said, part of this big quarterly growth is the fuel prices, which changed before people could alter already committed spending. So, debt goes up or savings go down, which is unsustainable for more than a few months.
My guess is that the GDP will flatten out to the fit of the 10 year trendline (2.2%) with a reasonably made adjustment to partially discount the rotten growth of the Silverspoon recession. So, my guess is 2.5 to 2.7% real.