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Dan Rather on Giuliani....😎 (Original Post) spanone Jul 2018 OP
And Rudy himself Jarqui Jul 2018 #1
I think being a competent liar is required to be in trump's inner circle spanone Jul 2018 #2
I would think 'competent liar' means that the person Jarqui Jul 2018 #3
Maybe 'accomplished liar' would be more accurate Maeve Jul 2018 #5
Accomplished to me implies a certain admiration of their skill bigbrother05 Jul 2018 #8
Oh, they have accomplished a LOT with their lies! Maeve Jul 2018 #9
Umm, maybe you meant to say "compulsive liar"? bigbrother05 Jul 2018 #6
they're fucking brilliant liars. spanone Jul 2018 #10
it is dajoki Jul 2018 #4
The mobster Giuliani elmac Jul 2018 #7

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
1. And Rudy himself
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 09:13 AM
Jul 2018

Since September 4, 2008 until 2016, out of 15 statements by Rudy evaluated by Politifact, 73% were mostly false, false or pants on fire false.
https://www.politifact.com/personalities/rudy-giuliani/statements/?list=speaker

And he's lied plenty since 2016 .. which is probably why he's a natural to work for Trump

Jarqui

(10,123 posts)
3. I would think 'competent liar' means that the person
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 10:10 AM
Jul 2018

lies so effectively, no one finds out.

Trump, Rudy et al don't seem to be able to do that very well. Cohen doesn't either.

Washington Post has documented over 3,000 false statements by Trump made during his 400+ days in office.

The criteria for Trump seems to be a willingness to lie a lot and they do not seem to be required to be good at it - maybe because they lied to get the job and those in the Trump White House lied when they hired them.

Maeve

(42,281 posts)
5. Maybe 'accomplished liar' would be more accurate
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 10:56 AM
Jul 2018

I'm not sure any of them are actually GOOD at it....

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
8. Accomplished to me implies a certain admiration of their skill
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 11:05 AM
Jul 2018

You may know it's all a lie, but they have such a flair that you can at least be entertained.

This crowd doesn't have enough respect for anyone to even try and make us believe their crap. They just fling BS and dare anyone to challenge them.

Maybe bald faced liars is the closest to capturing their bravado.

Maeve

(42,281 posts)
9. Oh, they have accomplished a LOT with their lies!
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 11:13 AM
Jul 2018

Altho I take your point...even if they all grew beards, they would still be bald-faced liars!

bigbrother05

(5,995 posts)
6. Umm, maybe you meant to say "compulsive liar"?
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 10:58 AM
Jul 2018

Competent implies they are good at it, compulsive implies continuous.

 

elmac

(4,642 posts)
7. The mobster Giuliani
Fri Jul 27, 2018, 11:01 AM
Jul 2018

knew about and released Russian hacked info before the election. That criminal is as guilty as the orange hitler.

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