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Michael Cohen says that Donald Trump, Donnie Jr. and a couple of others met to discuss the upcoming, infamous June 9 meeting with the Russians. In that meeting, Donnie Jr., according to Cohen, asked his father what he thought. Cohen contends that Trump Sr. thought it was a good idea, and to proceed.
Now, in the same report that leaked the fact that Cohen was ready to testify to that to the Mueller team, the report says that there is no tape of the meeting.
Why would you disclose that? Wouldn't it be better if the other participants didn't know whether or not they were recorded? Under those circumstances they wouldn't know how to testify. Tell the truth and hang one another or lie, and a recording would result in perjury.
Then, I thought, maybe there is a tape and Cohen (or the prosecutors) want the participants to think there isn't a recording, in which case they will perjure themselves.
This is getting very, very interesting.
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)tape..depends on who put this out!!!
htuttle
(23,738 posts)Lanny Davis denied that they leaked the information.
They did not deny the truth of the information, however, which may lead one to believe that Cohen has already flipped, or is in negotiations to do so.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)...KGOP republicans who have been tragically infected with notoriously duplitious republican family values.
ksoze
(2,068 posts)They feel confident lying thinking it is he said, he said. Once they are under oath, bam the tape locks in perjury.
asiliveandbreathe
(8,203 posts)This whole saga can come screeching to a halt, NOW,,afa as I am concerned....
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)PJMcK
(22,031 posts)Neither he nor his prosecutors said where was no tape of the meeting. Cohen's attorney says that they didn't leak that information.
Let's try a thought experiment. Which party in this mess always leaks? Why, of course! It's Trump himself!
I think Trump is muddying the waters, as usual.
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)redstateblues
(10,565 posts)raid of Cohens home and office in order to determine what was covered under attorney/client privilege.
louis c
(8,652 posts)...and only the ones that were attorney-client privileged were given back to the Cohen/Trump team.
The master then gave the rest back to the prosecution team.
The Cohen/Trump team won't see the rest until discovery. That won't happen until after someone is charged.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)The Trump Organization has until July 5 to complete its review of the last of the 4 million files seized by the FBI from Michael Cohen, President Donald Trumps former lawyer and personal fixer.
https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2018-06-26/trump-organization-has-until-july-5-for-cohen-document-review
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)In order to confuse people and help their agenda.
triron
(21,999 posts)bettyellen
(47,209 posts)But there is nothing in it for Cohen, and Russia benefits more than anyone by piling in the lies and confusion.
Grasswire2
(13,568 posts)Now it's nearly impossible to correct in the public discourse.
I'm kinda pissed about that. Irresponsible. Or someone at CNN is a stooge.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)brush
(53,765 posts)along with Mueller who also knows who the blocked humber belongs to which Jr. called before and after the meeting.
Take a guess who got those calls.
I'm glad the info is out there. It may no be "ballgame" but the closer is getting ready to come in from the bullpin with a list of all the others in the meeting.
Grasswire2
(13,568 posts)It's impossible to put the horse back in the barn. The narrative is wrong. Cohen DIDN'T make that claim last night. Giuliani made that up as a sort of nutball strategy.
brush
(53,765 posts)tump with witnesses present about the upcoming TT meeting, or that he said he didn't tape the meeting where trump was told?
Cohen probably was more discreet in his taping than to do it in front of several witnesses he didn't want in on it.
bettyellen
(47,209 posts)Its often what they do to confuse and exhaust people. So my feeling is, while the main part maybe true, some details like no tapes could easily be a lie. If tapes show up, it gives them a basis to discredit them as fake.
Cohen maybe willing to tell the truth about this now, but I dont trust anyone else who knows what he knows. yNWIM?
Grasswire2
(13,568 posts)Lanny Davis denied it was released by Cohen or his team.
And yet it's everywhere today that "Cohen claims...."
CNN ran with that story without verifying it??? That's scary.
JenniferJuniper
(4,510 posts)said, "MSNBC is reporting tonight that the Trump camp released it", and he was more or less told to shut up by the host. (Cuomo, I think?)
Interesting.
lagomorph777
(30,613 posts)brush
(53,765 posts)By releasing it, they admitted to collusion.
"Take that, Cuomo. That'll teach you."
Grasswire2
(13,568 posts)The problem may be Cuomo's ego, then.
uponit7771
(90,335 posts)CincyDem
(6,353 posts)42bambi
(1,753 posts)of others met to discuss -- could be the meeting Cohen was referring to.