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Well then.. Enjoy the end.. (Original Post) busterbrown Jul 2018 OP
I hope they get EVERYTHING they have coming. onecaliberal Jul 2018 #1
All I can say is 'thanks' spanone Jul 2018 #2
Yeah I saw that on CBS News tonight Zorro Jul 2018 #3
At least Jim Jones was a Psychopath! busterbrown Jul 2018 #4
Well,when those operating loans have to be paid on New Years Day, Wellstone ruled Jul 2018 #5
Yep. They all claim they won't take the bail-outs. GoCubsGo Jul 2018 #11
People like that are the FIRST ones in line for the handouts... Ferrets are Cool Jul 2018 #12
Ticks me off more and more. Wellstone ruled Jul 2018 #14
How are they reacting to the tax assessments? nt Blue_true Jul 2018 #19
It is after all Wisconsin, Wellstone ruled Jul 2018 #22
Well, step far away and let them drown in their own stupidity. nt Blue_true Jul 2018 #29
Do you point out to them that Walker has cut social services spending to nothing. Blue_true Jul 2018 #30
Hey,know all about that issue. Wellstone ruled Jul 2018 #32
How does the Trump lovers in your family feel about what you just described? Blue_true Jul 2018 #33
They could care less. Wellstone ruled Jul 2018 #35
Trump could shoot them tomorrow and they'd die praising his name and clutching their stupid red hats dalton99a Jul 2018 #6
Well then, enjoy what's left of your life. TheCowsCameHome Jul 2018 #7
They would let MFM008 Jul 2018 #28
Fucking scumbags will cash the checks when they get them. roamer65 Jul 2018 #8
Hah Nasruddin Jul 2018 #13
They're also delusional if they think 20 percent is as bad as it will get. BannonsLiver Jul 2018 #24
They are also delusional if they think the business they are losing now will come back. Other Midnight Writer Jul 2018 #27
Loon-a-tics Roland99 Jul 2018 #9
And not only will their income tank when crop prices tank, Marie Marie Jul 2018 #10
Trying HARD to be sympathetic to their plight. calimary Jul 2018 #15
They don't need your sympathy BannonsLiver Jul 2018 #23
My cousin's daughter is married to a farmer dflprincess Jul 2018 #16
Good luck to them. They do seem to be exceptions. Blue_true Jul 2018 #20
No idea whether that's part of it but it is part of human nature calimary Jul 2018 #31
Huge Part of it!! busterbrown Jul 2018 #36
To whose death? I hope he means Trump's FakeNoose Jul 2018 #17
'to the death' he said... Trump's polices are killing farmers. keithbvadu2 Jul 2018 #18
they'll end up destitute BannonsLiver Jul 2018 #21
"Thank you, Sir, may I have another" mentality. nt Laffy Kat Jul 2018 #25
Farmers always take more hits than any others radical noodle Jul 2018 #26
betcha in 10 years they won't admit voting for Trump 0rganism Jul 2018 #34

spanone

(135,795 posts)
2. All I can say is 'thanks'
Sat Jul 28, 2018, 08:59 PM
Jul 2018
Soybean farmers complain about Trump’s trade war but say they’ll stand by him ‘to the death’
 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
5. Well,when those operating loans have to be paid on New Years Day,
Sat Jul 28, 2018, 09:08 PM
Jul 2018

bet anyone ten bucks,he will be bawling his eyes out.

GoCubsGo

(32,075 posts)
11. Yep. They all claim they won't take the bail-outs.
Sat Jul 28, 2018, 10:03 PM
Jul 2018

And, that they're willing to "take the hit for their country." But, I have very little doubt that none of those fools will turn down Trump's welfare dollars.

Ferrets are Cool

(21,104 posts)
12. People like that are the FIRST ones in line for the handouts...
Sat Jul 28, 2018, 10:13 PM
Jul 2018

I've seen it with my own eyes after hurricanes.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
14. Ticks me off more and more.
Sat Jul 28, 2018, 10:35 PM
Jul 2018

Have Cousins and their Kids playing this game. They knew years ago that their over Production was going to come back a bite them in their butts.

Between these people voting for Four times and Trump once,that ugly Chicken has come home to roost. And to think,they are now getting their new Property Tax bills after their new reassessments brought on by Budget short falls in every County in the State.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
22. It is after all Wisconsin,
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 12:21 AM
Jul 2018

and they love their Walker. And as far as those big Property Tax increases,they are not to happy. Yup,got to support those Taker People. Talk about a Dog Whistle .

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
30. Do you point out to them that Walker has cut social services spending to nothing.
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 10:53 AM
Jul 2018

He does not find schools adequately. Then say, "you're paying more taxes, the money isn't going where he claim it is going", then innocently ask "could it be going to big business, the big farms that you compete against?" That should leave a mark.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
32. Hey,know all about that issue.
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 12:23 PM
Jul 2018

Have a family member that has developed a nasty case of Heart Failure. His delayed Treatment for the last four to five years has caused this to become Acute requiring Assisted Living with 24/7 care. All the result of denied Health Care due to his low income situation. When you can not afford Insurance,good luck.

Now he is covered by Medicaid,but the Damage is already done.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
33. How does the Trump lovers in your family feel about what you just described?
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 02:04 PM
Jul 2018

The situation you just described is why we need full medical coverage for every American for basic health concerns. Things like boobjobs, penile implants, cosmetic surgery can remain 100% privately financed and under no circumstances but a mastectomy or a guy getting his tool damaged in a accident be covered by regular medical coverage.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
35. They could care less.
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 02:51 PM
Jul 2018

Harsh isn't it,just telling you the truth. Heard it all and then some. One of the reasons I have little to none when it comes to contact. Sanity is more important than trying to fix Stupid.

dalton99a

(81,406 posts)
6. Trump could shoot them tomorrow and they'd die praising his name and clutching their stupid red hats
Sat Jul 28, 2018, 09:10 PM
Jul 2018

"Thank you, Mr. President! For this I praise Your name!"

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
8. Fucking scumbags will cash the checks when they get them.
Sat Jul 28, 2018, 09:37 PM
Jul 2018

Too bad there wasn’t a way to boycott their soy here in the US, but it’s mixed into a lot of stuff.

Nasruddin

(750 posts)
13. Hah
Sat Jul 28, 2018, 10:16 PM
Jul 2018

They're bs-ing - almost all of them would be found to take various farm subsidy and crop adjustment checks. They're from Will Co IL.

And that extends to that "to the death" and "toe the line" stuff too.

When they can't make their tax bills or their mortgage payments you can bet they'll be howling. The trick here is to make sure you reach them - they can "tow" their line over somewhere else, and will. These don't give off the signals you'd expect from religious fanatics, nazis, or other kinds of dead enders - just people who haven't done enough thinking yet.

BannonsLiver

(16,313 posts)
24. They're also delusional if they think 20 percent is as bad as it will get.
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 12:24 AM
Jul 2018

Get back to me a year from now when it’s down 40 or 50 percent. They won’t have a pot to piss in. But still, they will be grateful to their MAGA God.

Midnight Writer

(21,719 posts)
27. They are also delusional if they think the business they are losing now will come back. Other
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 02:35 AM
Jul 2018

countries are eager to take our place. Brazil is already a bigger exporter of soy beans then the USA, and they are busy now spending billions to improve their infrastructure (roads, ports, bridges, rivers, etc.) to make their operations even more efficient.

The other big competitor is (Surprise Surprise!) Russia.

Once the world gets used to buying from our competitors (free markets, y'all), we will not be getting that business back.

Marie Marie

(9,999 posts)
10. And not only will their income tank when crop prices tank,
Sat Jul 28, 2018, 10:00 PM
Jul 2018

they (like the rest of us) will be paying more for many other products.

calimary

(81,139 posts)
15. Trying HARD to be sympathetic to their plight.
Sat Jul 28, 2018, 11:29 PM
Jul 2018

And not succeeding very well, I’m afraid. When it’s self-inflicted I have kind of a hard time...

Hillary would NOT have done this to them, even if they didn’t vote for her.

BannonsLiver

(16,313 posts)
23. They don't need your sympathy
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 12:22 AM
Jul 2018

They want to see everything you care about and believe in destroyed. They deserve only your (our) contempt.

dflprincess

(28,072 posts)
16. My cousin's daughter is married to a farmer
Sat Jul 28, 2018, 11:32 PM
Jul 2018

soybeans are one of their crops. They do not stand by Trump - of course, they didn't stand by him before the tariffs. She tells me that they are still in the minority in their area, something neither one of them understands. Both Cousin & her husband are hoping their neighbors are just too embarrassed to publicly admit their mistake.

Blue_true

(31,261 posts)
20. Good luck to them. They do seem to be exceptions.
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 12:12 AM
Jul 2018

What is the restaurant farm to table market like in your area?

calimary

(81,139 posts)
31. No idea whether that's part of it but it is part of human nature
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 11:32 AM
Jul 2018

to want to avoid having to admit you’re wrong, or that you made a mistake. Or worse, to be honest enough to admit that you’ve been HAD.

NOBODY wants to be a fool, or to be openly recognized as one.

busterbrown

(8,515 posts)
36. Huge Part of it!!
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 07:39 PM
Jul 2018

The stupidity label gets stapled to them only because they refuse to admit they made a mistake....EGOES!!!

I know I have no problem admitting a mistake I made.. It only hurts more when you're caught in your own ego trap.

keithbvadu2

(36,678 posts)
18. 'to the death' he said... Trump's polices are killing farmers.
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 12:00 AM
Jul 2018

Trump’s polices are killing farmers.

After all, trade wars are 'easy to win'.

Farmers are killing themselves in staggering numbers

https://www.msn.com/en-us/money/markets/farmers-are-killing-themselves-in-staggering-numbers/ar-AAzbcCN

Why are America's farmers killing themselves in record numbers?

https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2017/dec/06/why-are-americas-farmers-killing-themselves-in-record-numbers

BannonsLiver

(16,313 posts)
21. they'll end up destitute
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 12:20 AM
Jul 2018

But will be thanking their MAGA God-emperor every step of the way. That’s why it’s okay to call it a cult.

Zero shits to give on this end.

radical noodle

(7,997 posts)
26. Farmers always take more hits than any others
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 12:42 AM
Jul 2018

They have to fight weather, bugs, fungus, and weeds while having no idea what they may earn for the crops they produce. I think their support for trump is stupid, but they sure know how to get through the bad times. Some will be losing their farms, most likely. Unless you've had to survive on a farm income (I did in my first marriage) you have no idea what a bad deal farming can be.

0rganism

(23,932 posts)
34. betcha in 10 years they won't admit voting for Trump
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 02:09 PM
Jul 2018

i imagine very few people will, far fewer than his BIGGEST EVAH WORLD RECORD CRUSHING VICTORY would suggest...

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