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applegrove

(118,462 posts)
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 09:06 PM Jul 2018

Well that went well for Trump:

Canada to join Mexico, Japan, South Korea and the EU in auto tariff talks

http://www.cbc.ca/news/politics/canada-auto-tariffs-mexico-japan-south-korea-eu-1.4766361

Canadian Press

"SNIP.......

Canada will join Mexico and European and Asian auto-producing countries this week to plot strategy ahead of the potential imposition of tariffs on vehicles and auto parts exported to the United States.

Japan and the European Union organized the meeting for Tuesday in Geneva, where vice and deputy ministers from Canada, the EU, Japan and South Korea will gather to talk about the punishing levies threatened by U.S. President Donald Trump.

........

A Canadian government official told The Canadian Press on Sunday that deputy international trade minister Timothy Sargent would attend the meeting on Canada's behalf.

Trump has threatened to impose tariffs under Section 232 of the decades-old U.S. Trade Expansion Act. The legislation allows the president, under certain circumstances, to impose duties recommended by his commerce secretary under the notion that the goods being imported are a threat to national security.


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Well that went well for Trump: (Original Post) applegrove Jul 2018 OP
Trump has bullied small vendors his whole life. The rest of the world are not small applegrove Jul 2018 #1
well said yurbud Jul 2018 #14
I've seen it in action. Someone who grew up with my dad had two parties. applegrove Jul 2018 #16
I thought there was an unwritten rule among the rich not to screw your peers. yurbud Jul 2018 #19
Did Trump brag about stiffing people in THE ART OF THE DEAL? yurbud Jul 2018 #20
Don't know. It is certainly a habit of Trump. applegrove Jul 2018 #21
D'uh. dhol82 Jul 2018 #2
THey don't expect. THat requires the ability to think through something to potential consequences. Amaryllis Jul 2018 #3
Sadly, true. dhol82 Jul 2018 #4
Swimmingly Well PaulX2 Jul 2018 #5
Exactly. The "National Security" lie is especially bogus when applied to Canada. . . . nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #6
Let's hope this is only bluster, but they seem to take it seriously. KY_EnviroGuy Jul 2018 #11
Don't worry, Trump is both Ninja and Jedi - He has a plan.... dchill Jul 2018 #7
Yeah - but that scares me. What is THEIR plan? Who are THEY? erronis Jul 2018 #10
Putin has a long-term goal of destabilizing all the Western democracies. I forget the name of his Hekate Jul 2018 #15
If things get bad enough, secession may be the only viable option for CA. roamer65 Jul 2018 #17
Nope. Breaking up the USA is a Putin goal, just like the EU. We will battle this out ourselves... Hekate Jul 2018 #18
Like a little kid playing chess knightmaar Jul 2018 #8
A trading coalition between the Mexico, Canada, the EU, Japan and South Korea will procon Jul 2018 #9
Why No Court Challenge? DallasNE Jul 2018 #12
That idiot came into the WH and set about destroying our position as "the indispensible nation"... Hekate Jul 2018 #13

applegrove

(118,462 posts)
1. Trump has bullied small vendors his whole life. The rest of the world are not small
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 09:07 PM
Jul 2018

vendors when they (we) work together.

applegrove

(118,462 posts)
16. I've seen it in action. Someone who grew up with my dad had two parties.
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 12:51 AM
Jul 2018

He hired a friend of my mom to cater. She worked at the tennis club, at a travel agency and catered, all part time, to make ends meet after her divorce. The man told her she would not be paid for anything but her costs and if she didn't like it she could sue him. My dad found out and paid her what she was owed, including profit, and my dad stopped being friends with the asshole. This was after the art of the deal had been published so the man may have been copying Trump. It was unheard of in my parent's tonier neck of the woods.

Amaryllis

(9,524 posts)
3. THey don't expect. THat requires the ability to think through something to potential consequences.
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 09:32 PM
Jul 2018

KY_EnviroGuy

(14,488 posts)
11. Let's hope this is only bluster, but they seem to take it seriously.
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 10:24 PM
Jul 2018

It's quiet a stretch to call sales of autos from any of our allies a threat to security. However, just the threat has cost many people lots of money in asset depreciation.

It might be logical to drag his sorry ass to court over this. These, and a few thousand others seeking relief from this administration.

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dchill

(38,433 posts)
7. Don't worry, Trump is both Ninja and Jedi - He has a plan....
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 10:10 PM
Jul 2018

No he isn't, and no he doesn't. He's just following orders.

erronis

(15,170 posts)
10. Yeah - but that scares me. What is THEIR plan? Who are THEY?
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 10:15 PM
Jul 2018

It very obviously isn't the rank-an-file (mainly rank) repuglicons. It may not even be the US oligarchs. SPECTRE, anyone?

Hekate

(90,538 posts)
15. Putin has a long-term goal of destabilizing all the Western democracies. I forget the name of his
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 12:19 AM
Jul 2018

...favorite geopolitical theorist, but the guy is a professor in Russia who writes big fat books that don't get translated into English very much, and are expensive when they do get translated (I looked him up on Amazon back when I first heard about him).

It's scary shit, like everything else about Vlad. It's not a "theory," it is an understood reality. We know now that Putin helped finance and promote Brexit -- and that begins to tear the EU alliance apart. People in the UK never expected it to actually pass -- sound familiar?

There's a wave of far-right anti-immigrant "populism" all around Europe -- Putin's fingerprints all over the place.

The frosting on the cake for me personally was learning that Calexit, the cockamamie idea that California should secede from the Union, was led by an American with an office in Siberia. I'm a Californian, by the way.

roamer65

(36,744 posts)
17. If things get bad enough, secession may be the only viable option for CA.
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 01:20 AM
Jul 2018

And many other states as well, if the orange infestation is allowed to continue.

Hekate

(90,538 posts)
18. Nope. Breaking up the USA is a Putin goal, just like the EU. We will battle this out ourselves...
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 02:47 AM
Jul 2018

...and to hell with that dapper little thug.

procon

(15,805 posts)
9. A trading coalition between the Mexico, Canada, the EU, Japan and South Korea will
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 10:15 PM
Jul 2018

kill the US economy. Look for another Recession, worse than the last, and we won't have anyone like Obama and his top team to save us. Traitor Trump is following Putin's orders to weaken the US to the point it is no longer a superpower.

DallasNE

(7,402 posts)
12. Why No Court Challenge?
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 10:27 PM
Jul 2018

This won't end our trade deficit. Besides, if a trade deficit threatens our national security then this should have been done 60 years ago. I see no legal basis for this action.

Hekate

(90,538 posts)
13. That idiot came into the WH and set about destroying our position as "the indispensible nation"...
Sun Jul 29, 2018, 11:42 PM
Jul 2018

Thanks to the Trojan Horse, the US really is no longer "first" in the world, especially in terms of respect. When he's gone, whoever we have in the WH pver several terms is going to be a long time trying to rebuild that respect.

MAGA my rosy Irish ass.

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