The Guardian publishes a potentially bombshell report on Brexit.

[triron]

https://www.theguardian.com/politics/2018/jul/28/dcms-committee-report-finds-truth-fake-news-facebook-brexit?CMP=share_btn_tw

"One thing that Collins says has struck him is “just how many connections take you back to Russia. At every step of the way. There’s never been a point where we’ve thought, ‘Oh it’s not as bad as we feared.’ The connections just seem to deepen and become more significant.”

[BigmanPigman]

1. I feel like we have been attacked and are in an undeclared war...

a cyber war.

[triron]

3. We includes Great Britain, which should be one of our closest allies

[BigmanPigman]

5. I meant them when I wrote "we".

At least their leader isn't in cahoots with the enemy though. I never thought that our president would be the actual enemy one day. Unbelievable!

[triron]

7. We are in a precarious place for sure.

[Johnny2X2X]

10. Absolutely

And if this is a war, this is like the Germans invading Poland in 1939, it's a rout. The US and the world isn't even in the fight yet.

Russia realized a while ago that they could much more effectively reach their goals with cyber warfare than conventional warfare. The US isn't even in this fight and with Professor "Cyber is huge" at the helm we are rolling over and playing dead as a defense.

People have yet to understand how powerful this warfare is, it's mind control and installed a US President. 35 years ago Russia would have had to launch their nuclear missiles to have a shot at replacing the US President with a puppet. In 2016 they were able to achieve that goal with a team of a few hundred bloggers and hackers. They spent perhaps $50 million in this war to achieve the results that would have taken several $Trillion by conventional means.

[triron]

11. Well said and deadly accurate.

[triron]

2. The article even has a call for a British "mueller" type investigation

"Today he tells the Observer that Britain needs its own Robert Mueller to look into Russian interference. “We know that this happened in America. And we know that the FBI is investigating and is calling on our evidence. We need to know that this is being taken equally seriously in Britain. We need to be satisfied that this is under the scrutiny of our agencies, and at the moment we don’t. "

[Amaryllis]

13. Attack, not interference.

[2naSalit]

4. Interesting article.

I was watching a lot stuff, mostly news, trying to catch up from a long absence from the web and i saw on one video that Zuckerberg has a link to the "meddling" or at one or two degrees of separation based on major stockholders who are close to the shirtless rider. I am now leaning more toward thinking he's a knowing enabler or knowingly taking no action to prevent what has been/is happening. I think we need to get the elections off grid like last week.

[triron]

6. What do you mean by "off grid"?

[lastlib]

8. Off the Internet.

Disconnect state/local databases from publicly accessible networks. Same with voting machines--go back to paper and unplug the electronic machines that connect to anything centralized.

[lapfog_1]

9. paper ballots, include provisional ballots, hand counted 3 times

take a week to determine the outcome if needed. We don't need instant gratification on election results.

[muriel_volestrangler]

12. The British referendum, and elections in general, are already 'off-grid' by that definition

It's all paper ballots, hand counted.

This report is about using social media for propaganda, to distort the apparent popularity of positions and so on.

[Scurrilous]

14. K&R