The problem with lies ...

[kentuck]

...eventually they become so heavy, they begin to collapse on each other.

This seems to be the point we have reached with Trump and Guiiani. They can no longer keep them organized. They seem to be contradicting or backtracking on everything they have said in the past .

Deception and lies seems to be their default position ?

[pbmus]

1. No man has a good enough memory to be a successful liar." - Abraham Lincoln

[NRaleighLiberal]

2. Agreed - but before they collapse, they can do incalculable damage

Hitler for example.

[kentuck]

3. Absolutely !