Seth Abramson: It's looking like Trump Attended Tower Meeting With Russians (via Speakerphone)

[berni_mccoy]

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BREAKING: Less than 48 hours after I wrote the thread below, Rudy Giuliani, Trump's lawyer, has told CNN that his *new* defense of Trump is that Trump was not "physically present" at the infamous June 2016 Trump Tower meeting between his top campaign officials and Russian agents.

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Original Thread:

(THREAD) A growing body of powerful circumstantial evidence suggests Trump may have not only known about in advance but attended—by speakerphone—the June 2016 Trump-Russia meeting at Trump Tower. Media reports suggest this fits his modus operandi. I hope you'll read on and share.

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NOTE: Seth Abramson has rarely been wrong about his reports on Trump/Russia-gate.

[Blue Owl]

1. Rudy should claim the "mentally absent" defense

Duh!

[lagomorph777]

24. For himself? Sheesh, he's giving away the damned store lately!

[Bernardo de La Paz]

41. Stages of Giuliani

[calimary]

47. This one's a keeper, for sure!

[yonder]

48. It's like the 12 days of Christmas.

With 6 more to go.

[True Blue American]

53. One more.

They do not tell us everything, but will tell this cover story in case new facts come out!

Heard that this morning.

[Scurrilous]

2. K&R

[leftieNanner]

3. Well, of course he was!

He knew about the meeting (thank you Mr. Cohen) and he certainly would have participated via speaker phone. Even if he didn't say anything, he listened in to the proceedings. Supposedly he has a penchant for doing this.

Please, Lord Mueller, take this pestilence from us!

[FakeNoose]

28. Now we need Mueller to find the tape of the meeting

[leftieNanner]

29. OH YES YES YES!

Lordy.

But Michael Cohen wasn't there, was he?

Ass Face always pretends that he tapes meetings, but I don't know that he actually does.

[FakeNoose]

32. No but someone probably took notes or minutes, like a clerical person

I wouldn't expect Jared Kushner or Donald Junior would be taking notes, would you?
It would only make sense that somebody taped it so they could transcribe it later.

[leftieNanner]

39. Good point

You know the Russians have a record, if not Junior and Jared.

[DallasNE]

45. I'm Sure

Mueller has the phone records for the Trump Tower conference room and knows whether that phone was in use during that time and who it was with. We already know Don Jr. Spoke with a blocked phone number both before and after the meeting. Most presume that blocked phone belongs to Donald Sr. And he has a blocked phone. Mueller would know for sure. The noose tightens.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

4. NOTHING happens at Trump Tower without Trump knowing about it.....

Anyone who assumes Trump knew NOTHING about Jr's meeting has their head up their asses.

[Scarsdale]

31. Who thinks Jr. or Jarred

would go to this meeting, or even plan it without permission from Big Daddy?? Listening in, or on Skype? I wonder if Ivanka was sitting on his lap while he listened to the meeting?

[C_U_L8R]

5. Probably a phone record of that

on both sides of the aptly named con-call.

[CentralMass]

51. Wouldn't it be great if the line was wire tapped.

[Turbineguy]

6. A control freak like trump?

Sure. I'd be astonished if he kept his mouth shut.

[mr_lebowski]

7. Does anyone know what this 'body' consists of? (nt)

[Chicagogrl1]

8. POS

Trump is such a f****ng LIAR! Liar’s always get caught! I am praying for that day every day!

[LiberalLovinLug]

9. So this also proves that Trump was told and knew it could get him in trouble if he was associated

with the meeting

And that they thought of a 'clever' workaround that would keep him insulated via a technicality of him not actually being present.

Will that work?

[RestoreAmerica2020]

10. His professional analysis cuts through the chaos. I'd like his take on pre-meeting prep...

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TPM - Marshall - "Rudy's Big Admission?" [View all]
https://talkingpointsmemo.com/edblog/rudys-big-admission

Rudy Giuliani made two TV appearances this morning, one on Fox and one on CNN. ...

Now let’s get to what Giuliani said this morning. In a back and forth with CNN’s Alisyn Carmerota, he appears to say that two days before the meeting with the Russian lawyer there was a planning meeting to prepare for that meeting. This prep meeting would have been on June 7th, 2016. Giuliani says that meeting included Don Jr., Jared Kushner, Manafort, Rick Gates and others.




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[Blue_playwright]

11. Drip drip drip

When will the flood finally be enough?

[certainot]

54. it will be over when limbaugh says so

and putin and or trump are probably paying him.

maybe republicans will retire limbaugh and end this curse, because clearly democrats/liberals/left have no clue what's been kicking our ass for 30 years

as long as limbaugh leads the way for a few hundred ignorant paid liars on 1500 radio stations and dems ignore them as they keep making excuses and rationalizing for the certainty-starved, uncertainty-avoiding authoritarian base, the republican reps and media and pundits will continue to give the minority trump base and a few russian trolls the voice of 40%

it would have been over a long time ago but americans are playing the idiot game of blaming fox, the economy stupid, the racism, and various other symptoms of ignoring talk radio for 30 years.

[nolabear]

12. Lying Lies and the Liars Who Tell Them.

LORDY I hope there are tapes.

[ProudMNDemocrat]

34. I have that book.

Damn, I miss Al.

[nolabear]

37. Boy, so do I. We could use some fearless right about now.

[CentralMass]

52. Me too, on both counts.

[lindysalsagal]

13. If his campaign did it, he's guilty. regardless of who was on what side of what wall.

[dawnie51]

14. Verification is nice.....

but Bannon told us this a long time ago, via Wolfe's book, that the Russians were without doubt ushered upstairs after the meeting. This is just the kind of dirty, felonious shit Dump lives for. Anyone who thought he wasn't up to his armpits in this is stupid.

[displacedtexan]

15. Collusion. Collaboration. Conspiracy.

Any way you slice it, Trump's a traitor.

[2naSalit]

16. I knew it!!

[docgee]

17. The tRump tower fire must have burned the recording tRump had of it.

[C Moon]

18. There was something suspicious about that fire, that's for sure.

[C Moon]

20. I also vaguely recall (at the beginning of Trump's illegal presidency)...

The closing of Russian embassies in California, and smoke pouring out of them (burning of documents, I assume).
That was a strange event, that fell by the wayside.
I think they were embassies, anyway.

[MineralMan]

19. So, he phoned it in?

Just like he has done throughout his time in office? Who'd have thunk it?

[Uncle Joe]

21. Kicked and recommended.

Thanks for the thread berni mccoy.

[airmid]

22. I was saying this a year ago. Trump is a control freak. He thinks he is the only

one who can do anything right. I hope they roast his ass over it all when the truth sees the light of day. I know his kool aid drinkers will never face reality but hopefully the majority will make sure this never happens again. Human nature being what it is, I am not hopeful in that regard.

[gristy]

23. Exactly what is this growing body of circumstantial evidence?

Posting the same tweet 3 times in the OP doesn't make it true...

edited to change "twit" to "tweet"

[lagomorph777]

25. TPM has a more detailed analysis; see this DU post

https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210941385

[Quixote1818]

27. Think they meant Tweet but it's true it wasn't posted three times. nt

[berni_mccoy]

30. Thanks, I see they edited the post.

[NewJeffCT]

56. Abramson has been putting a huge amount of information out there

over the past few years. Most of what he tweets is backed up by information reported by various legitimate news organizations.

[ThoughtCriminal]

33. The goalposts are now at the far end of the stadium parking lot

Next: Collusion is not treason.
Next: Treason is not necessarily a crime
Next: Treason is not necessarily a capital offense...

[RicROC]

35. it's time to call the 2016 Presidential Election 'NULL & VOID'

[triron]

50. I'm wondering if there may be another brexit referendrum.

[riverbendviewgal]

36. I thought that all along so I am not surprised

Kick and rec.

[JDC]

38. Of course he did.

[Yavin4]

40. Did they hear someone gulping a Coke on the phone?

Then it's Trump. He probably burped as well.

[berni_mccoy]

42. lol.

[Yavin4]

43. He probably farted as well.

Trump never mutes himself.

[NewJeffCT]

55. as clumsy and obvious as Trump can be

I think he's supposedly been listening in on people long enough to know to put the MUTE button on.

[duforsure]

44. trumps already in so much trouble

And everyone is turning on him and talking. He and rudy can lie all they want but they will regret it as it all caves in on them both. They already have it all and now just getting others to verify and testify against them.

[Honeycombe8]

46. OMG. Did Trump approve what Ghouliani admitted? OMG. This is big! nt

[blue-wave]

49. Why am I'm not surprised?

tRump is a walking lying machine. I hope that conversation was recorded. That would make for some really good headlines.