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It's just math. (Original Post) kpete Jul 2018 OP
Like they know math figuring. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #1
Thanks kpete, this was funny. saidsimplesimon Jul 2018 #2
God is really f**ked up. CatMor Jul 2018 #3
Hitler was a vegetarian. Hitler was evil. Therefore, vegetarians are evil. Towlie Jul 2018 #30
This is an exercise in bad logic. This kind of syllogism* to arrive at the truth of a matter no_hypocrisy Jul 2018 #4
Yup. Was about to post about the obviously bad logical fallacy in idiot Bill Mitchell's tweet. . .nt Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #11
Woosh. progressoid Jul 2018 #21
Its actually a deductive syllogism with a missing premise. D23MIURG23 Jul 2018 #23
I'm impressed with your analysis. no_hypocrisy Jul 2018 #24
hahahahaha that's great!!!!!!!!!! Takket Jul 2018 #5
Bad Math lapfog_1 Jul 2018 #6
Annnnnnnnnnd I'm out!! 7962 Jul 2018 #10
Worse than that. Bernardo de La Paz Jul 2018 #13
Penguines wear black. Melania wears black. Therefore Melania is a penguin. n/t D23MIURG23 Jul 2018 #19
The level of derp in some people is beyond parody. If someone had tweeted that 1st tweet as a joke, RockRaven Jul 2018 #7
I just had to comment to say I love your post! blugbox Jul 2018 #29
It ain't even math. It's invalid logic. bucolic_frolic Jul 2018 #8
I first read that as "its just meth". Whoops! 7962 Jul 2018 #9
Potato Potahto progressoid Jul 2018 #22
You love guns, your enemy loves guns, therefore you love your enemy? FAIL dalton99a Jul 2018 #12
God clearly does not favor America. bitterross Jul 2018 #14
Yeah...funny how you guys scooped that one up for yourselves. LiberalLovinLug Jul 2018 #16
So Bill, if God hates adultery God must hate Trump right? cstanleytech Jul 2018 #15
It's not even math. It's fallacious logic, which means it's not even logic. JHB Jul 2018 #17
Human devolution... the proof. defacto7 Jul 2018 #18
lol something faulty in that syllogism 0rganism Jul 2018 #20
Bill Mitchell knows that what he's typing is not true as he types it Renew Deal Jul 2018 #25
Wait, I'm getting a different conclusion., Permanut Jul 2018 #26
But it's not math lunasun Jul 2018 #27
I love the Hoarse Whisperer Gothmog Jul 2018 #28

Towlie

(5,322 posts)
30. Hitler was a vegetarian. Hitler was evil. Therefore, vegetarians are evil.
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 03:25 PM
Jul 2018

Or, in its more commonly seen form:

"Hitler was an atheist (he actually wasn't). Hitler was evil. Therefore, atheists are evil.

no_hypocrisy

(46,038 posts)
4. This is an exercise in bad logic. This kind of syllogism* to arrive at the truth of a matter
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 08:54 PM
Jul 2018

is patently false and used the first week of Logic 101 to illustrate how NOT to come to factual conclusions.


* An instance of a form of reasoning in which a conclusion is drawn (whether validly or not) from two given or assumed propositions (premises), each of which shares a term with the conclusion, and shares a common or middle term not present in the conclusion (e.g., all dogs are animals; all animals have four legs; therefore all dogs have four legs ).

Deductive reasoning as distinct from induction.

progressoid

(49,952 posts)
21. Woosh.
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 12:58 PM
Jul 2018

That's the sound of your fancy pants liberal edukashun going over the heads of Mitchell and his followers.

D23MIURG23

(2,845 posts)
23. Its actually a deductive syllogism with a missing premise.
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 01:38 PM
Jul 2018

I can fix it by adding the bolded premise:

P1: God favors America
P2: God favors everyone who favors America
P3: Donald Trump favors America
C: God favors Trump

The above syllogism proves that if premises 1 - 3 are true then the conclusion has to be true. In fact you don't need premise 1. I included it because Mr. Bill included it, and I think he meant for premise 2 to follow from it (it doesn't).

Now that the syllogism is corrected the problem is merely that every premise is ridiculous gibberish with no basis in reality. Premise 2 is especially bad because even if you believed premise 1 as an article of faith, there is no reason for premise 2 to follow from it, or to be true in general. I might favor Michigan State University, but that doesn't mean I would favor everyone else who felt the same way. I wouldn't favor Larry Nassar or John Engler if it turned out that they also favored MSU.

This whole thing smacks of some cheap apologist trying to be William Lane Craig and doing a really bad job of it.

lapfog_1

(29,194 posts)
6. Bad Math
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 09:19 PM
Jul 2018

bad symbolic logic actually

He is trying to use "favors" as "equals" whereas the word is more of a "contains"

So his stmt is A is contained by B
C is contained by B

Therefore A and C are either equal or a proper subset of each other (A is contained by C)

But that is demonstrably false. One can easily draw a Venn diagram that shows B with both A and C as distinct subsets or overlapping subsets.

Bernardo de La Paz

(48,966 posts)
13. Worse than that.
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 10:24 PM
Jul 2018

Trump adores ice cream.
Hitler adores ice cream.
Trump adores Hitler.

It's neither containment (subsets) nor logical inference. It's not deductive nor inductive.

It's RubleCon emotionality.

Putin grabbed a pussy.
Trump grabbed a pussy.
Putin grabbed Trump's pussy.

RockRaven

(14,915 posts)
7. The level of derp in some people is beyond parody. If someone had tweeted that 1st tweet as a joke,
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 09:23 PM
Jul 2018

it would have gone over like a lead balloon. I'm honestly surprised people who have this much trouble with logic and cause-and-effect survive to be middle-aged. Between gravity and electricity alone something should have gone horrible wrong for this guy before today if this is representative of his brain processes.

blugbox

(951 posts)
29. I just had to comment to say I love your post!
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 03:14 PM
Jul 2018

Your words are exactly how I would have phrased my own response, and this being representative of your brain processes... I approve!

bucolic_frolic

(43,064 posts)
8. It ain't even math. It's invalid logic.
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 09:59 PM
Jul 2018

It's instantiation, but without tangible facts for testing.

Simply, Baloney!

 

bitterross

(4,066 posts)
14. God clearly does not favor America.
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 10:25 PM
Jul 2018

Not sure where dufus got that idea. Oh right, God is a white, Anglo-Saxon, Protestant, Heterosexual, Male. Therefore, he must love America.

ON EDIT:

I'd like to remind him that Mexico and Canada are in America too.

LiberalLovinLug

(14,165 posts)
16. Yeah...funny how you guys scooped that one up for yourselves.
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 11:23 PM
Jul 2018

There isn't one other South, Central, or North American country that refers to themselves as "America" only the USA. Granted The United States of America doesn't sound that catchy. But come on, you could've invented some other name, maybe taken from your native heritage, like we did in Canada. Even the old USSR reverted back to their old name Russia.

Reminds me a bit of how IBM and Microsoft appropriated the term "personal computer" or PC in the computer world.

Oh well, that's ok, you can have it. Its not that important in the grand scheme of things.

JHB

(37,157 posts)
17. It's not even math. It's fallacious logic, which means it's not even logic.
Mon Jul 30, 2018, 11:34 PM
Jul 2018

It is shit-for-brains dumbassery, so he does have that.

Renew Deal

(81,847 posts)
25. Bill Mitchell knows that what he's typing is not true as he types it
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 02:33 PM
Jul 2018

Bill Mitchell knows that Trump doesn't favor America.

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