Why am I supposed to care about a study by a "university-based libertarian policy center"

[jpak]

About Medicare for All?

[lapfog_1]

1. you should not

their numbers are outlandish and probably based on specious projections.

[jpak]

2. Ya think?

[lapfog_1]

4. $10K a year for every person alive in the US is high

https://upload.democraticunderground.com/?com=view_post&forum=1002&pid=10942700

[jpak]

8. My Health Canada payroll deduction was $75 a month (US Dollars)

It was nothing,

And the care was First Class.

[applegrove]

3. I think it would be cheaper. If you add up all healthcare costs in canada vs. the US,

Canada's universal system costs 2/3rds of the US system.

[jpak]

5. I lived and worked in Canada for 4 years and dealt with their healthcare system

Which is better and cheaper than anything in the States.

I don't need a Koch Bro study to muddy the waters.

It pisses me off to see this kind of "libertarian" shit posted on DU,

And yes, I am pissed.

[applegrove]

7. I posted it because it said public healthcare was trillions cheaper. If you

think the study is a fabrication I'll take it down.

[jpak]

10. It is right wing propo

Sorry

[applegrove]

11. Okay. Down it comes.

[jpak]

12. Yay!

[RockRaven]

6. The publicity blurbs from this agenda-laden "study" are meant to shock and frighten

but even with their massive bias/agenda apparently they conclude that overall approx $2 trillion would be saved over 10 years. Good luck finding that in their press releases or the MSM.

What their shock-value sticker price ought to emphasize isn't that medicare for all is unbelievably expensive, but that the US already spends an unbelievable amount on health care. I suppose it's a nice problem to have, being a society capable of spending a huge fraction of your GDP on health care, but we could probably get more bang for our buck if certain portions of our health care system weren't run as for-profit entities. Like, you know, the coverage/insurance part.

[appalachiablue]

9. The Mercatus Center at George Mason Univ. is big in many

RW conservative economic circles; the way it is in these times sorry to say..

[SunSeeker]

13. You should understand what the costs are so that you can talk about this intelligently.

We can't just say the Mercatus figures are wrong. We have to be able to say what the costs are. And why raising taxes to cover them is worth it. Right now, the Mercatus study is the most current study and actually came up with a total cost figure. And even with that suspect total cost figure, it is still worth it. Don't you agree?

If we shy away from addressing these issues, we leave it to the right wing to fill the vacuum.

[Hoyt]

14. Well, we do spend $3.3 Trillion annually now, with people not covered,

coverage gaps, etc.

So $32.6 Trillion is not far off for 10 years.

I’m more worried about getting the message across to all the stupid people who are against tax increases, even if they’ll likely come out better long-term. Single payer failed in California, Colorado, and Vermont because legislators didn’t have the guts to tell voters how much their taxes would have to go up, even when they were already paying for it.