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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 11:30 AM Jul 2018

France bans smartphones from schools

By Rory Smith, CNN Updated 1143 GMT (1943 HKT) July 31, 2018

(CNN)-French children will have to leave their smartphones and smart devices at home or switched off when they are at school starting in September.

The ban on smartphones as well as other kinds of internet-connected devices, such as tablets, applies to schoolchildren between 3 and 15 years of age, and was passed by lawmakers on Monday. French high schools, or lycées, with students 15 and older, will get to choose whether to adopt the phone ban for their pupils.

"We know today that there is a phenomenon of screen addiction, the phenomenon of bad mobile phone use... Our main role is to protect children and adolescents. It is a fundamental role of education, and this law allows it," said Education Minister Jean-Michel Blanquer on French news channel BFMTV.


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France bans smartphones from schools (Original Post) workinclasszero Jul 2018 OP
I know many will have a problem with this but I think it's a great idea. Squinch Jul 2018 #1
If smart phones were present back in the stone ages when I was in school workinclasszero Jul 2018 #3
I do too, but will never happen here because of school shootings ... hlthe2b Jul 2018 #5
I don't understand how the phones help in a school shooting ? bettyellen Jul 2018 #9
Those personal last moments with parents that have been captured... That's one emotional argument hlthe2b Jul 2018 #10
That's mighty weird to be planning for that to happen or want that more than a good education. bettyellen Jul 2018 #12
Some parents consider the cell phone akin to maintaining the umbilical cord... hlthe2b Jul 2018 #14
That's a great explaination- thank you! bettyellen Jul 2018 #22
Yes! d_r Jul 2018 #29
happens all the time demtenjeep Jul 2018 #49
One of my freshman college students was constantly texting on her phone during class. I called her tblue37 Jul 2018 #51
Just wow d_r Jul 2018 #53
You had an opportunity to encourage empathy in a young person. rainin Aug 2018 #56
The mom's constant texting is inappropriate. There seems Squinch Aug 2018 #62
The mom needs to grow up. Nt roody Aug 2018 #68
The Mother Was Wrong RobinA Aug 2018 #69
You did this with a COLLEGE STUDENT??? cwydro Aug 2018 #59
Geez did that woman not go treestar Aug 2018 #75
How did people survive d_r Jul 2018 #54
The same way they survive now with cell phones. nt. Mariana Aug 2018 #74
The devices can be brought to school, just switched off during class...so the umbilical cord remains Fred Sanders Jul 2018 #19
I agree... n/t hlthe2b Jul 2018 #21
No, so the kid can call his parents and tell them he/she is ok trixie2 Jul 2018 #42
It's a pretty sad state that we are living our lives in anticipation of school shootings. And Squinch Jul 2018 #44
You don't call you text trixie2 Jul 2018 #50
None of which really changes the point. Squinch Aug 2018 #57
Completely agree. cwydro Aug 2018 #60
I don't know anyone but myself who has alerts on or any kind of tones. At school no sounds are on. trixie2 Aug 2018 #70
And you keep that phone handy because school shootings. Squinch Aug 2018 #72
As a former teacher DownriverDem Jul 2018 #33
This is way past due in America. Crutchez_CuiBono Jul 2018 #2
good - appropriate DrDan Jul 2018 #4
Makes sense to me and I am sure a lot of teachers would get on board. TexasProgresive Jul 2018 #6
Technology is the world they will work in trixie2 Jul 2018 #7
Chromebooks only connect to School WiFi. forgotmylogin Jul 2018 #28
Yes Chromebooks only connect to school wifi and only to Google Classroom trixie2 Jul 2018 #38
I remember my second year of college... forgotmylogin Aug 2018 #65
Hurray someone who gets it. trixie2 Aug 2018 #71
Not in the classroom DownriverDem Jul 2018 #35
Although I don't allow my students to text or play around on their phones or tablets, we tblue37 Jul 2018 #52
A smart idea! fierywoman Jul 2018 #8
Now they'll have to start writing exam answers on their forearms again. nt eppur_se_muova Jul 2018 #11
LOL workinclasszero Jul 2018 #15
High time we did that too Le Gaucher Jul 2018 #13
And horses and buggies! The good ole days! Adrahil Jul 2018 #17
I agree trixie2 Jul 2018 #41
Remember the 'PDA' (Personal Digital Assistant) ? The first ones didn't have phone capabilities. eppur_se_muova Jul 2018 #18
Calling them phones is just a conceit. They're a whole nother animal. nolabear Jul 2018 #47
Many schools or individual classrooms require kids to turn off their devices when they enter the WhiskeyGrinder Jul 2018 #16
This is becoming widespread in Europe Chris Studio Jul 2018 #20
You may want to rethink that trixie2 Jul 2018 #39
Meh Chris Studio Jul 2018 #43
Oh U.K. trixie2 Jul 2018 #46
I know Chris Studio Jul 2018 #48
We should do that in the US kimbutgar Jul 2018 #23
My preference is let the kids have them, but not visible or used in class. forgotmylogin Jul 2018 #30
How Draconian, next they'll ban kids from doing drugs and drinking alcohol in the classroom Snake Plissken Jul 2018 #24
No, alcohol will still be ok... Shipwack Jul 2018 #27
Excellent idea. geardaddy Jul 2018 #25
When I stopped teaching grade school BigmanPigman Jul 2018 #26
How will the kids document the school shootings? NightWatcher Jul 2018 #31
. Iggo Jul 2018 #37
Schools can treat shootings as an extended recess DFW Aug 2018 #67
Good for them. zentrum Jul 2018 #32
I don't see why this is an issue. moriah Jul 2018 #34
Our schools have BYOT. Ilsa Jul 2018 #36
Stands and applauds! trixie2 Jul 2018 #40
Our program was considered Ilsa Jul 2018 #45
same with my daughter's high school NewJeffCT Aug 2018 #66
When my high school friends went to France as exchange students applegrove Aug 2018 #55
Wait what? workinclasszero Aug 2018 #61
We could still do that when I was in college. Squinch Aug 2018 #63
This seems to be overreach Nonhlanhla Aug 2018 #58
Good. I would like to see similar legislation passed in the USA. I am a 20+ year teacher and Persondem Aug 2018 #64
Sounds like a good idea to me mysteryowl Aug 2018 #73
 

workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
3. If smart phones were present back in the stone ages when I was in school
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 11:36 AM
Jul 2018

It would have been undoubtedly a major distraction.

hlthe2b

(102,327 posts)
5. I do too, but will never happen here because of school shootings ...
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 11:39 AM
Jul 2018

We can't possibly deal with guns, so distracted, non-learning students are the price, I guess. And we've seen what an increasingly stupid/ignorant populace can bring upon all of us.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
9. I don't understand how the phones help in a school shooting ?
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 12:19 PM
Jul 2018

It’s kind of a strange rationale. There’d be loads of adults around to call the cops.

hlthe2b

(102,327 posts)
10. Those personal last moments with parents that have been captured... That's one emotional argument
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 12:22 PM
Jul 2018

that would be hard to counter.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
12. That's mighty weird to be planning for that to happen or want that more than a good education.
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 12:34 PM
Jul 2018

It’s like we’re all addicted now I guess.

hlthe2b

(102,327 posts)
14. Some parents consider the cell phone akin to maintaining the umbilical cord...
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 12:37 PM
Jul 2018

I agree that they shouldn't be accessible in school during classes, at least, but these are the arguments I get from others when it comes up.

d_r

(6,907 posts)
29. Yes!
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 02:11 PM
Jul 2018

I was talking to the principal at my children's school, who told me that they are going to implement a cell-phones-must-stay-in-locker policy this year, and the biggest concern is the parents complaining about it!!

I can't imagine texting my children during school!

 

demtenjeep

(31,997 posts)
49. happens all the time
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 09:36 PM
Jul 2018

I will take a phone and the kid will say "but my mom is texting"


I say, she knows you are at school and should not be on your phone

tblue37

(65,458 posts)
51. One of my freshman college students was constantly texting on her phone during class. I called her
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 11:00 PM
Jul 2018

out about it a few times, but finally I told her that if I had to correct her again I would confiscate her phone during the class period.

She then explained that her mother was suffering a bad case of empty nest syndrome and texted her all the time, freaking out if she didn't respond right away--and that I wasn't the only teacher who had chewed her out over it.

I stepped into the hallway with her and asked her to call her mother and let me speak with her. She did, and I explained that she was embarrassing her child in front of her classmates and getting her in trouble with all her teachers. I also explained that she could cause her daughter's grades to drop in some classes if the teacher had such a policy, which is not uncommon.

Later that week Sarah told me that although her mother still texted her a lot, at least she was now only texting before and after classes. Of course Mom was still distracting her during study time and when she was with friends, but at least she wasn't getting her into trouble with her teachers any more.

rainin

(3,011 posts)
56. You had an opportunity to encourage empathy in a young person.
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 05:13 AM
Aug 2018

Instead you made that mother wrong in front of her child. That's divisive. Instead you could have shown empathy for the mom and asked the student to turn her phone to silent during class. The mom would have likely processed her feelings of loss in time and the daughter would have gained a lesson that the world doesn't revolve around her. Daughters and sons can learn a lot in those moments about kindness for others. We learn how to treat others inside of our primary relationships. Believe me, it's not the mom you hurt here. It's the girl.

Squinch

(50,989 posts)
62. The mom's constant texting is inappropriate. There seems
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 08:14 AM
Aug 2018

to be a problem with boundaries between that mother and college-age child if the mother can't leave the daughter alone long enough for the daughter to attend a college class.

Appropriate boundaries in a parent/child relationship is also an important lesson for both parents and daughters and sons.

RobinA

(9,894 posts)
69. The Mother Was Wrong
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 01:27 PM
Aug 2018

and I expect that girl likely knew it. She clearly had empathy or she would have cut Mom off. What she needed was some validation here and she got it, as well as some help cutting the cord. She asked for the help by telling the teacher the full story. Mom needed to be reminded that she was the adult in this scenario.

 

cwydro

(51,308 posts)
59. You did this with a COLLEGE STUDENT???
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 07:59 AM
Aug 2018

Called her mother??

Wow, college has changed since I was there!

treestar

(82,383 posts)
75. Geez did that woman not go
Thu Aug 2, 2018, 12:52 AM
Aug 2018

To college herself? Why she puts her needs before her own child’s is a mystery

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
19. The devices can be brought to school, just switched off during class...so the umbilical cord remains
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 01:12 PM
Jul 2018

firmly attached...so in your strange shooter scenario to justify the phones always being on, those "last moments" can be recorded...??

Squinch

(50,989 posts)
44. It's a pretty sad state that we are living our lives in anticipation of school shootings. And
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 05:50 PM
Jul 2018

though I agree that school shootings are unacceptably prevalent, the possession of a phone does not increase the child's chances of survival. In fact my biggest fear would be that the phone would ring and give away a child's hiding spot.

We need to reduce the number of school shootings, but phone use shouldn't be considered part of that issue.

trixie2

(905 posts)
50. You don't call you text
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 10:44 PM
Jul 2018

When we are under lock down, not a drill, everyone is texting to find out information and to let parents know.

Anyone under the age of 35 don't call anymore. They text and they turn off all alert sounds.

Squinch

(50,989 posts)
57. None of which really changes the point.
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 07:09 AM
Aug 2018

And I, too work in schools. I wouldn't choose to stake my life on every kid having remembered to turn off all alerts. In my experience they aren't necessarily diligent about that.

trixie2

(905 posts)
70. I don't know anyone but myself who has alerts on or any kind of tones. At school no sounds are on.
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 03:53 PM
Aug 2018

Believe me when we were on lock down everyone including the teachers were using cell phones to get information into the hiding kids/staff. Parents/spouses have the tv on and can report if the shooter is at the school or in the neighborhood.

I am tired of fighting about the usage of a valuable tool. You do what you want and hide in a closet without any information for hours.

TexasProgresive

(12,157 posts)
6. Makes sense to me and I am sure a lot of teachers would get on board.
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 11:42 AM
Jul 2018

It wasn't that long ago before cell phones were so ubiquitous that possession of a pager by a student was a suspendable offense. I think the reasoning on that had to do with drug dealing however it is difficult to get a class's attention when the students are busy checking their social media pages and texting each other. I routinely take up phones when I see them in use. I don't make the pay a fine to get them back- so far so good. A teacher I know will confiscate them and it is $10.00 to get them back on a 1st offense, 2nd offense they have to see the principal to get them back for $25.00. 3rd time the phones must be collected by the parents.

It was bad enough with note passing and so forth but this has compounded the difficulties of teaching exponentially.

trixie2

(905 posts)
7. Technology is the world they will work in
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 11:45 AM
Jul 2018

Even kindergarten supplies Chromebooks.

Do some adults think that teens talk on the phone? No they don't. Talking on the phone is for oldsters.

I like when the teacher can set the rules. Most schools use a code. Code orange is no cell phones, Code yellow is cell phones allowed except during testing, code green is free use of cell phones. When I teach lit the kids constantly look up new words, author information, maps etc. It is a great tool.

forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
28. Chromebooks only connect to School WiFi.
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 02:07 PM
Jul 2018

Which is heavily moderated as to what they can access for schoolwork.

My school had a strict policy on any electronic device (we had handheld games and the like, and classes where you couldn't use calculators)...if the teacher saw it during class, it went in a locked box in the principal's office, and you didn't get it back till the end of school on Friday. If the parents complained, they were welcome to pick it up in person for the student at any time so long as they took it off the premises.

trixie2

(905 posts)
38. Yes Chromebooks only connect to school wifi and only to Google Classroom
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 04:46 PM
Jul 2018

Cell phones MAY NOT connect to school wifi.

Years ago each child was assigned a Chromebook to take home and use in class. I find it hilarious that it was stopped because parents were using them for their own purposes, even adult-only websites. Now each classroom has a set of Chromebooks and each student has their own login. Middle school and high school students can login to their classroom from any Chromebooks in the building. Elementary students have classroom Chromebooks that is always logged into their account.

I compare today's craziness with cell phones to the days of the first radios in automobiles. OMG! Drivers will not pay attention.

Homeschoolers who do not use technology are at a great disadvantage in college.

forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
65. I remember my second year of college...
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 09:03 AM
Aug 2018

the first time I walked into a writing class where every seat had a computer terminal in front of it. All of our in-class exercise writing was done onscreen, and the professor could pull up our screen and watch us, and could show one student's screen to everyone so we were able to get real-time feedback about our punctuation and sentence structure.

It was magical and felt like the future.

trixie2

(905 posts)
71. Hurray someone who gets it.
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 04:02 PM
Aug 2018

Can you imagine if you had not had any technology training?

The magical overheads!

I love doing practice tests/quizzes through Quizlet Live. So much fun.

tblue37

(65,458 posts)
52. Although I don't allow my students to text or play around on their phones or tablets, we
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 11:11 PM
Jul 2018
do use internet connected devices (phones, tablets, or laptops) to access online materials. I post materials on my Blackboard website that we use in class, and when the students are working on research projects, internet access means we don't have to traipse over to the library. When they are working on group research projects, they find the collaborative possibilities of Google Docs to be invaluable.

Internet access in class is valuable at a certain educational level, but the teacher has to monitor the students carefully, or some of them will always end up wasting class time surfing for cat porn*.
---------------
*What is the internet mostly used for? Cat videos and pornography, right?--so I just call what they are doing when they are piddling around "surfing for cat porn."
 

Le Gaucher

(1,547 posts)
13. High time we did that too
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 12:36 PM
Jul 2018

I wish we could be back to days where the phone did one thing only -

let people talk ( rather than it being 1589th thing that people do on it)

eppur_se_muova

(36,277 posts)
18. Remember the 'PDA' (Personal Digital Assistant) ? The first ones didn't have phone capabilities.
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 12:52 PM
Jul 2018


Adding the phone was what made them really catch on.

nolabear

(41,990 posts)
47. Calling them phones is just a conceit. They're a whole nother animal.
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 09:01 PM
Jul 2018

I’m all for having the off or collecting them in class but not taking them away. They fill many functions.

 

Chris Studio

(82 posts)
20. This is becoming widespread in Europe
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 01:12 PM
Jul 2018

My kids' schools make kids hand up phones in the morning and then they hand them back in the afternoon.

They will probably be the national law by the time school reconvenes at the end of August.

I see no reason why kids even need phones, if they're being collected by the parents, much less need them in schools.

Neither of my kids have one, or even seem to want one, and we're not gonna hand them one until it's absolutely necessary.

trixie2

(905 posts)
39. You may want to rethink that
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 04:56 PM
Jul 2018

My sister felt the same way until her son, age 10, was at a scout sleepover with parents she knew very well. It seems the parents got drunk and drove the boys to the local ice cream store. The kids were scared shitless and her son had the know-how, from role playing games with his parents, to approach a mother with children and ask her to call his mother who then called the police. Both parents were twice the legal limit. After that she got him a Cricket (?) that could only call his parents, grandparents, older sister and 911.

Kids with cell phones have caught a lot of horrible things on their cameras. Teachers slamming students, abusing students etc.

If I miss a kid during roll call and mark him/her absent the kid is sent a notice by cell phone to him/her. The kid can then come up to me and we take a selfie with both kid and me and send it back to the office. Problem solved very quickly. I always hold up a sign that says, "Unable to hear and runs with scissors".

My sister loved the idea, when her son was in high school, that his cell number was the alert for school closings.

 

Chris Studio

(82 posts)
43. Meh
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 05:37 PM
Jul 2018

I'm glad that worked out for them, but kids don't have sleepovers here... And they all love within walking distance of our house. Lol.

As for kids tapping stuff.. Meh. I don't know... I mean sure that's a thing, but I'd rather my kids be paying attention than than trying to fight crime or anything...

The parents all have a whatsapp group so anything weird is discussed at length.

Anyway... Too many negatives too few positives... No interest. Especially at school.

trixie2

(905 posts)
46. Oh U.K.
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 08:58 PM
Jul 2018

You don't have the rash of school shootings or cops shooting kids.

America is at war and our kids are right in the middle of it. They drill on school shootings each month. When they are young and start with the drills they like to contact a parent by texting for reassurance. The school I work at went on lock down 3 times in 2 months.

I think we are talking apple and oranges here. S.T.E.M. is really big here so technology is huge. When kids get their first jobs they are expected to download applications, use technology of every sort and are tested at the interview. Even in upper elementary school they have to project their projects onto a wall using specific add ons to laptops/cell phones.

 

Chris Studio

(82 posts)
48. I know
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 09:34 PM
Jul 2018

I spent 29 years in the states... Grew up there... And saw two school shootings....

The answer to school shootings should not be phones in schools. I guess at this point Americans have just given up on solving that. It was a thing when I was a kid in the 80s-90s, it was a thing when I was in my 20s, and 30s. It's still a thing now that I'm in my 40s.

But no, it's not a thing here. My kids have literally never heard of a school shooting. Never heard a school lock down. No guards at the schools. So shelter in place training. No armed police on the streets.

Technology is big here in Ireland as well. We have the European headquarters for a lot of US tech firms... Apple, Facebook, you name it. My kids have their school books on iPads.my daughter is 11 and uses Photoshop and Final Cut Pro. My son is 9 and uses Logic Pro to make music. The need to understand computers and apps is nearly universal these days.

None of that means I want my kids to have phones in schools.

In fact we teach our kids how this technology works at home. We also don't allow screens in bedrooms... Public space only.

Oh and before someone give you hell, Ireland is not part of the UK. I'm not upset. But many people would give you an earful. Just so you know

kimbutgar

(21,172 posts)
23. We should do that in the US
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 01:44 PM
Jul 2018

I am a substitute teacher and will not do high school because the kids are on their phones all the time. I spoke to other teacher who said this is a big problem for them also. I wish schools would install cell phone blockers in the school buildings. It is really destroying their developing brains.

forgotmylogin

(7,530 posts)
30. My preference is let the kids have them, but not visible or used in class.
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 02:15 PM
Jul 2018

Keep them switched off in their lockers or backpacks. If the teacher sees them, they're confiscated. My school kept anything they took from you until the end of school on Friday, and kids learned real quick that they didn't want to lose their stuff for a week.

Snake Plissken

(4,103 posts)
24. How Draconian, next they'll ban kids from doing drugs and drinking alcohol in the classroom
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 01:59 PM
Jul 2018

and it won't stop there, they'll try to stop them from gambling and smoking cigarettes in the classroom too

Shipwack

(2,170 posts)
27. No, alcohol will still be ok...
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 02:05 PM
Jul 2018

... as long as it's a decent vintage and pairs well with whatever the cafeteria is serving.

BigmanPigman

(51,617 posts)
26. When I stopped teaching grade school
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 02:04 PM
Jul 2018

a few years ago phones weren't allowed in use during school and no one argued with the idea. They were able to use them after school to connect with peers and siblings for rides who me, etc. My friend teaches high school and he says that the students are on them in the classroom all the time. I would NEVER allow that! It is hard enough to get their attention as it is. Kids can use tablets and computers but as tools during classwork and it works out fine.

DFW

(54,426 posts)
67. Schools can treat shootings as an extended recess
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 09:13 AM
Aug 2018

And therefore exempt from the classroom restriction. Fatalities receive a lifetime exemption.....

moriah

(8,311 posts)
34. I don't see why this is an issue.
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 02:20 PM
Jul 2018

I know people who pay for $35 a month cell phones as an "electronic leash" for their kids, have the tracking set up, etc. Usually this isn't until age 11 or 12 or so, but it combines being able to see where the phone is on the map with the kid having no excuse for not calling if there's anything wrong/DEFINITELY no excuse for not answering.

Switched off during school hours would not interfere, though it'd be helpful if they'd allow kids with lockers to keep them there. And of course the school has zero responsibility for theft.

In my day the big debate was about pagers in school. Allegedly only drug dealers had them.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
36. Our schools have BYOT.
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 03:34 PM
Jul 2018

Bring your own technology. Smartphones, laptops, tablets, etc, all alloqpwed. The teachers have the kids working with them throughout the day.

Yes, some kids have issues, but they work with them just like they would if they had other behavior issues.

And our schools had about 2 dozen NMS semi-finalists (or finalists?) last year.

trixie2

(905 posts)
40. Stands and applauds!
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 04:58 PM
Jul 2018

Though not every kid can afford a laptop so I love that the schools keep them in the classrooms for them.

Ilsa

(61,695 posts)
45. Our program was considered
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 06:05 PM
Jul 2018

a model, internationally, a few years ago. The internet is set up to prevent kids from getting into sites they shouldn't, etc.

NewJeffCT

(56,828 posts)
66. same with my daughter's high school
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 09:11 AM
Aug 2018

They're required to have a laptop in class and the teachers work with the kids using their laptops and phones. Great tools when used wisely.

Her high school sends 20+ kids per year to Ivy League schools and another 30 or more kids to schools considered to be around that same level, i.e., in the "most competitive" category for college admittance. So, they must be doing something right.

applegrove

(118,738 posts)
55. When my high school friends went to France as exchange students
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 01:53 AM
Aug 2018

they reported back that you could smoke in class.

Nonhlanhla

(2,074 posts)
58. This seems to be overreach
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 07:22 AM
Aug 2018

I see no reason why phones can't be placed in a container when students enter the classroom so that the kids won't use it during class, but to ban them altogether? No. There are good reasons why kids have smartphones -e.g., if parents need to pick them up at a certain time and place after school etc., they can communicate The tween age group might need this most: small kids are watched more carefully and handed over from adult to adult, and teenagers are more independent, but your 8-12 year group is a bit of a mix of independent and still small. Call it an electronic leash, whatever. But it's quite convenient to have it.

Persondem

(1,936 posts)
64. Good. I would like to see similar legislation passed in the USA. I am a 20+ year teacher and
Wed Aug 1, 2018, 08:45 AM
Aug 2018

the advent of smart phones has led to all kinds of problems in education. Aside from being an obvious distraction, young people actually do NOT learn better, really learn, with technology. Research shows that history in particular should not be learned with tech - something about it interferes with ordering. When students read on tech they tend to read in an "F" pattern instead of reading every line; that is, they scan and skim. There are plenty of other negatives as well.

Basically smart phones = dumb people.

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