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workinclasszero

(28,270 posts)
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 11:33 AM Jul 2018

More than 1,000 people have already downloaded plans to 3-D print an AR-15

By Doug Criss and Kimberly Berryman, CNN Updated 2:37 AM ET, Tue July 31, 2018

(CNN)Under a court settlement, people aren't supposed to be able to legally download plans for 3-D printed guns until Wednesday.

But because designs for the guns have already been posted online, by Sunday more than 1,000 people had already downloaded plans to print an AR-15-style semiautomatic assault rifle, according to the office of Pennsylvania Attorney General Josh Shapiro.

Shapiro has been fighting to keep 3-D printed guns out of Pennsylvania. At an emergency hearing held over the phone Sunday, the attorney general's office asked a judge for a restraining order that would block a website run by gun-rights group Defense Distributed from being accessible in Pennsylvania. The group's site allows people to download plans to make 3-D guns.

At the hearing, Defense Distributed agreed to block Pennsylvania IP addresses for a few days until a more formal hearing could be held.

Josh Blackman, a lawyer for Defense Distributed, told CNN on Monday that more than 1,000 AR-15 gun plans have been downloaded but wouldn't confirm Shapiro's claim that they were only downloaded since Friday.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/07/30/us/pennsylvania-3d-guns-trnd/index.html
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Thomas Hurt

(13,903 posts)
1. Anyone who makes a 3D printed gun is a Darwin award winner in the making.
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 11:40 AM
Jul 2018

Problem is they might take someone else with them.

lpbk2713

(42,744 posts)
4. I wouldn't want to be the first one to fire one.
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 11:55 AM
Jul 2018



Give it to a rethug as a gift. They would love it. Until ...




dumbcat

(2,120 posts)
5. (Sigh) CNN gets the very first statement wrong
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 01:25 PM
Jul 2018

I wish CNN wouldn't do things like this. They could very easily have an editor that checks facts as a brake on their sometimes illiterate writers. Errors like this just gives more grist to the anti-CNN "fake news" meme.

" (CNN)Under a court settlement, people aren't supposed to be able to legally download plans for 3-D printed guns until Wednesday. "

No, that's not correct. Under the settlement Defense Distributed agreed not to upload their files to the 'net until Wednesday. That has nothing to do with people downloading files that are already available. There is no provision at all about anyone being able to "legally download" plans.

Maybe some here just consider it a small "nuance", but it is wrong and just provides more fodder for the gunnuts.

sl8

(13,679 posts)
7. Plans for AR-15 rifle or Liberator single shot pistol?
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 02:04 PM
Jul 2018

Last edited Tue Jul 31, 2018, 04:27 PM - Edit history (1)

The various news articles quote the PA AG as saying that more than 1,000 downloads of AR-15 plans had occurred. Based on this email exchange between the parties, I'm wondering if it was actually downloads of the Liberator pistol plans:

https://princelaw.files.wordpress.com/2018/07/email-doc-3.pdf

NightWatcher

(39,343 posts)
8. How many people have a printer in order to make a plastic receiver?
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 02:07 PM
Jul 2018

You can buy the rifle for 500-600$ (or at least the receiver portion). How many people have the means to print out guns?

I think this is a huge nothing burger.

JonLP24

(29,322 posts)
14. There are 3D printers cheaper than that
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 03:49 PM
Jul 2018

I can think of a thousand problems post #12 is one of them. It is already difficult to trace guns at the federal level because the system is outdated (file cabinets) and the BRA & Republicans have resisted efforts to improve on it during the Obama administration. All these dead bodies make me sad.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
15. I purchased a $320 3-D printer for home use. Prices are going down. Consistently.
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 03:59 PM
Jul 2018

In 1980, someone probably asked "who has the money for a dot-matrix printer to print their own documents?

Newspaper publishers thought the prices of regular printers steadily moving downward was a huge nothing burger as well.

SQUEE

(1,315 posts)
9. Can't stop the signal.
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 02:18 PM
Jul 2018

Tubing and pipe have been used for a over a century to make improvised firearms, somehow, we are still here.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
16. I'm guessing the gun manufacturers hate this...
Tue Jul 31, 2018, 04:04 PM
Jul 2018

as much as news print in the nineties hated the desktop publishing revolution.

I won't be surprised if the NRA (the NRA being the lipstick on the manufacturers' pigs) comes out against this (en toto rather than in regards to one particular case) to save the bottom line of gun-industry shareholders.

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