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If wages are stagnant of what benefit is GDP growth to workers ? (Original Post) DemocratSinceBirth Aug 2018 OP
It's worse than you think. It's corporatism on parade. Eyeball_Kid Aug 2018 #1
Agree wages have been stagnant, but a job with wages worth increasing Hoyt Aug 2018 #2
Do not mean to rain on your parade, Wellstone ruled Aug 2018 #3
No question trump's tariffs will have an effect, but economy, no matter its Hoyt Aug 2018 #5
Seeing it first hand today. Wellstone ruled Aug 2018 #6
I'd bet a number of them voted for trump, and will do so again. Hoyt Aug 2018 #8
One of the Reddest Counties in Wellstone ruled Aug 2018 #9
Tremendous Turbineguy Aug 2018 #4
Newsflash... pecosbob Aug 2018 #7

Eyeball_Kid

(7,434 posts)
1. It's worse than you think. It's corporatism on parade.
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 01:25 PM
Aug 2018

GDP growth is likely associated with an increase in the cost of consumer goods and services. Rents and food costs will go up. Energy costs will rise. Trumpy's trade war will cause additional increases in goods and services. Stagnant wages mean that workers will suffer from a DECREASE in purchasing power. With unions destroyed and shrinking, there is no counterbalance. Workers will just have to go without, assuming that propaganda (and violence against workers) against unions is effective.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
2. Agree wages have been stagnant, but a job with wages worth increasing
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 01:33 PM
Aug 2018

is better than no job. That is one value of increasing GDP.

I think wages will start increasing at some point, but it has been slow. Wages should increase, especially when employees find they can do better down the street. That hasn’t been the case for awhile.

Another problem is that companies have been investing more into technology, not employees. Thus, employers think the return for increased productivity goes to those who invested in technology. There is probably some rationality in that, although it doesn’t help employees.

Finally, the government has failed us by cutting taxes and not returning some of employers’ profitability to the people through healthcare, education, etc.

Increasing GDP is seldom —if ever — bad, especially if it is distributed fairly.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
3. Do not mean to rain on your parade,
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 02:21 PM
Aug 2018

wages are done increasing for quite some time. September into October will be the critical inflection point for our economy. Looking like Lay-Offs are looming in large numbers and we are just now hearing form smaller Companies with less than 3-4 hundred employees locking their doors.

Watch for major Layoffs on Friday of Election week. Especially in Autos, that,sector is pure ugly as of this week. Next will be Farm Equipment Makers. Talked to a Assembly Line worker from a Nebraska Equipment maker two days ago,they are holding their breath due to big slow down in sales,and figured there will be layoffs within weeks. Farmers have stop all buying because of the Tariff issues.

 

Hoyt

(54,770 posts)
5. No question trump's tariffs will have an effect, but economy, no matter its
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 02:47 PM
Aug 2018

long-term outlook, will likely be strong going into election. I don’t think most GOPer leaners will vote for Democrats because they fear longer-term impact of trump’s buffoonery.

Hopefully, Democratic leaners will see long-term impact, need for healthcare, education, improved foreign relations, etc. But I don’t think status of current economy is going to help us a lot unless those who haven’t benefitted vote in mass.

I’m certainly not positive long-term, but it’s hard to see the inertia of Obama’s economy tanking that soon.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
6. Seeing it first hand today.
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 05:44 PM
Aug 2018

Back here in Farm Country,things are tense to say the least. And yes the strong Obama Economy has a certain amount of lasting strength,but,that strength is on the wane. Seen it first hand two hours ago when we had to make a repair part run. Parts store closed yesterday,boom,hung it up,tired of losing money he said. Fortunately,the Auto parts store had the belt we needed other wise it would have been a fifty mile run for this belt.

Major Farm Tire Store closed earlier this year because of Sales. This Tire Store has been in business since early 1900's. This was the only Truck and Tractor Tire Shop in the County. Now the locals have to travel fifty miles to get the same service.

Personnel Friend has a Branded Grocery Store in this same town. Today when we stopped,his expressed his concern of being a viable going business. The Farmers are scared.

 

Wellstone ruled

(34,661 posts)
9. One of the Reddest Counties in
Sat Aug 4, 2018, 09:06 PM
Aug 2018

Minnesota. Noticed more empty Store Fronts,in fact there are almost three solid blocks of empty Store Fronts were as three years ago maybe four or five empty Store Fronts.

Yupper,Trump country USA.

And they will vote for the Liar again

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