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Related: Editorials & Other Articles, Issue Forums, Alliance Forums, Region ForumsMike Pence: The President's repeated lies to the American people are grounds for impeachment
Pence made the argument in two columns in the late 1990s, where he wrote that then-President Bill Clinton's admission of an affair with a White House intern and prior lies to the public about the matter, possibly under oath, meant Clinton should be removed from office.
Yet Pence also moved beyond the specifics of the Clinton case: He made a far-reaching argument about the importance of morality and integrity to the office of the presidency.
Pence wrote the columns in the late 1990s when he was a local Indiana radio host and prominent conservative voice in the state arguing Clinton had lost his moral authority to lead the country. One of the columns, "The Two Schools of Thought on Clinton," was posted on his now-defunct website for his radio talk show. Another column, "Why Clinton Must Resign or Be Impeached," was posted on his congressional campaign website. Both columns were archived by the Internet Archive's Wayback Machine. The columns ran in various Indiana newspapers at the time but did not get national attention.
https://www.cnn.com/2018/08/06/politics/kfile-mike-pence-moral-columns/index.html
Further, the Presidents repeated lies to the American people in this matter compound the case against him as they demonstrate his failure to protect the institution of the presidency as the 'inspiring supreme symbol of all that is highest in our American ideals'. Leaders affect the lives of families far beyond their own 'private life'. In the Bible story of Esther we are told of a king who was charged to put right his own household because there would be "no end of disrespect and discord" among the families of the kingdom if he failed to do so. In a day when reckless extramarital sexual activity is manifesting itself in our staggering rates of illegitimacy and divorce, now more than ever, America needs to be able to look to her First Family as role models of all that we have been and can be again.
The challenge for the Republican Congress lies in the fact that the polls may be right. The American people may deeply wish to move on and put this unpleasantness behind us. Regrettably, the Constitution does not permit such a national denial. If the President does not resign, the Republican Congress must impeach him even if it costs them their majority because the laws of this republic charge them with the duty to so act. Absent an uncharacteristic act of selflessness by the President, it is left to the Republicans to live up to their label and defend the laws and institutions of this Republic. If our leaders flinch at this responsibility, they would do well to heed the Proverb "if a ruler listens to lies, all his officials become wicked". Our leaders must either act to restore the luster and dignity of the institution of the Presidency or we can be certain that this is only the beginning of an even more difficult time for our land. For the nation to move on, the President must move out.
Ohiogal
(31,999 posts)Pence's picture would be there.
LisaL
(44,973 posts)fierywoman
(7,683 posts)2naSalit
(86,620 posts)Blue Owl
(50,374 posts)Seriously, what the hell does Mike Pence do other than leave football games early???
at140
(6,110 posts)break ties in the US Senate.
magicarpet
(14,150 posts)G_j
(40,367 posts)no surprise at all
techne7319
(173 posts)but according to the president, he himself has done nothing wrong, and Im sure Pence would agree.
dweller
(23,632 posts)he was a local Indiana radio host ... and now VP?
imagine Howard Stern ... 😜😳
ProfessorPlum
(11,257 posts)Pence, not so much
Blue_true
(31,261 posts)Then I have some ocean front land in Arizona that I would like that person to look at. Some things are predictable, a rightwing republican lying is one of those things.
keithbvadu2
(36,806 posts)Enoki33
(1,587 posts)Gothmog
(145,242 posts)dchill
(38,493 posts)Response to Miles Archer (Original post)
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NBachers
(17,110 posts)Response to NBachers (Reply #17)
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Heartstrings
(7,349 posts)Please clarify...
AldoLeopold
(617 posts)You're not catching a troll - you're just ignoring what I'm saying.
0rganism
(23,954 posts)he's freakin' gone
edbermac
(15,939 posts)I think hes about to sleep with the fishes.
mr_lebowski
(33,643 posts)That we should stop pointing out the blatant hypocrisy of right-wingers on accounta 'bad things are gonna happen' .. a point justified in your eyes because this was a 'duly held election' and therefore we need to STFU and quit trying to undermine Trump ... apparently ignoring the fact that if his treasonous behavior, conspiring with a foreign adversary who's goals are ANTITHETICAL to the goals of the United States and it's democracy, directly led to the outcome of said 'duly-held election' ... it is actually no longer actually 'duly held', and thus your argument is invalid.
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Quixote1818
(28,936 posts)It has nothing to do with anyone's kids who were killed. The rest of your post is incoherent.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,491 posts)I think you're on the wrong blog and will find no solace here.
Do you really think this tiny group of Democrats have "created maniacs all over the country" compared to Trump and his 24/7 right-wing media empire (Fox, Limbaugh, Alex Jones, et al)?
...... ..........
RockRaven
(14,967 posts)reprinting all the criticisms/editorials by Pence, Congressional GOPers, and Trump cabinet officials which -- if taken on face value -- clearly apply to Trump.
LittleGirl
(8,287 posts)Pence is just as bad if not worse than IQ45.
born in the same state as Pence.
KY_EnviroGuy
(14,491 posts)tRump's lies and deceptions - just like those of right-wing media and most other GOP politicians - are tearing apart the very fabric of our democracy and destroying our standing on the international stage.
By that logic, Donald tRump should have already been impeached at least 1,000 times.....
duforsure
(11,885 posts)Aren't liars, corrupt , or career criminals. This president is one, and surrounds himself with them. He's desperately now trying to claim he and everyone around him , and his followers are victims now, when its really justice, and the truth snapping at their heals.
Achilleaze
(15,543 posts)deplorable FAKES (R).
Martin Eden
(12,867 posts)... licking the sweat off Trump's ass.