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Demovictory9

(32,456 posts)
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 01:46 AM Aug 2018

graph of people Trump has called stupid by gender and race



Before the presidential election, Trump mostly disparaged white people as stupid.

Of course, back then, his political opponents were mostly white people: those running against him in the Republican primary and the conservative establishment broadly opposed to his candidacy. He called Karl Rove, former George W. Bush adviser, stupid five times, including in interviews. Bloomberg’s Tim O’Brien, whom Trump once sued unsuccessfully for alleged libel, earned the description three times, as did television host Glenn Beck.

Since President Trump’s inauguration, though, that has changed.

This year alone, Trump has referred to Rep. Maxine Waters (D-Calif.) as “low IQ,” a pejorative that is generally reserved for her, seven times. (Two exceptions: He speculated that the man behind the terrorist attacks in Paris in November 2015 might have been “low IQ,” and he used the term to describe actor Robert De Niro after De Niro insulted him.) His tweet about Lemon on Friday was the third time he has described Lemon as unintelligent.

There is one consistent theme to Trump’s use of the term that the preceding paragraph should make obvious: Stupid people are the ones who criticize and oppose him. In the primaries, that was mostly people from his own party. Afterward, that has been less likely to be the case.

Bear in mind: This topic covers only instances of Trump referring to individual people as unintelligent. He has used a variety of other terms to insult a broad range of people in the past. James, for his part, responded to Trump’s attempt to revoke a White House invitation to the Golden State Warriors in September with an insult of his own.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/politics/wp/2018/08/06/the-people-trump-has-called-stupid/?utm_term=.25d837a67f64

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graph of people Trump has called stupid by gender and race (Original Post) Demovictory9 Aug 2018 OP
Trump: "Racism now, racism tomorrow, racism forever" dalton99a Aug 2018 #1
Would love to see Maxine safeinOhio Aug 2018 #2
Wow. Look at that spike at the end. He's terrified. Squinch Aug 2018 #3
Hmm...I was intrigued until I noticed the end date on the chart. Ms. Toad Aug 2018 #4
Chart labels often extend to convenient endpoints unc70 Aug 2018 #6
Not unless the markers for 91 were placed at 100 Ms. Toad Aug 2018 #7
The last markers are before the right endpoint unc70 Aug 2018 #8
You are free to trust it. Ms. Toad Aug 2018 #9
Charles Blow wrote about this a couple of days ago in NYT. brer cat Aug 2018 #5

Ms. Toad

(34,072 posts)
4. Hmm...I was intrigued until I noticed the end date on the chart.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 08:28 AM
Aug 2018

And it confirmed comments I made earlier (and got blasted for) that his early post-inauguration references to Maxine Waters were not insults based on her race because he calls everyone stupid. (I was not aware that, I was underestimating the statistical strength of that statement - because until that time he almost exclusively reserved it for whites).

But - Given that it is not yet August 31, 2018, I now distrust the entire chart.

My general rule is that if there is a fact that is incorrect that I don't even have to search to verify, I can't trust anything in the item without verifying its accuracy.

unc70

(6,114 posts)
6. Chart labels often extend to convenient endpoints
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:13 AM
Aug 2018

The labels on a chart are not "facts". If one of the axes was labeled 100 but the maximum value was 91, would you have the same issue? Or what if the label had been "August 2018", would that have made a difference?

Ms. Toad

(34,072 posts)
7. Not unless the markers for 91 were placed at 100
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:02 PM
Aug 2018

the same way the last several remarks were placed at August 31.

If you pulled up that graphic a year from now, without checking the date on the article, when would you believe the last name-calling events occurred?

unc70

(6,114 posts)
8. The last markers are before the right endpoint
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:27 PM
Aug 2018

The rightmost points are over the 3, slightly short of the endpoint label. It is not a particularly good chart, but it is not indicative of a factual error as you claimed.

Ms. Toad

(34,072 posts)
9. You are free to trust it.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:50 PM
Aug 2018

I don't, for the reasons I've stated.

Not to mention that you didn't answer the relevant question. If you looked at this graph a year from now, based on the chart and without checking for the article date, when would you believe he last called a black man and black woman stupid?

brer cat

(24,565 posts)
5. Charles Blow wrote about this a couple of days ago in NYT.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:12 AM
Aug 2018

He made an interesting observation:

A review of the many insults Trump has spouted since he declared his candidacy finds that although he has called many people dumb, or dummies or low I.Q., the targeting of that particular insult at women, including minority women, occurs with curious frequency and is often a singular line of attack against them, rather than one of many.
bolding mine.

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