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Demovictory9

(32,456 posts)
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 02:48 AM Aug 2018

woman demands that black family leave pool

In the latest incident of swimming while Black, a Florida lawyer says she felt like a criminal in her own neighborhood after a woman questioned her family’s presence at the pool, then demanded they leave.

Nadia Policard of Jacksonville detailed the incident in a Facebook post on Wednesday, saying she and her kids were lounging poolside and enjoying pizza at the Mira Vista condos when a random woman approached and asked if they were residents.

“So the kids and I are at the pool today minding our own business,” Policard wrote. “I ask my son to snap a photo of me (for the Insta) when lady pictured here asks me where I live and tells me this pool is only for residents! So I tell her I am.”



“Then she asks me where I live,” the post continues. “I ask why she thinks I am not a resident. She tells me they’ve had ‘a problem with non-residents bringing truckloads of people to the pool.’ So I ask her, ‘Do the three of us look like a truckload to you? What’s the real issue?'”

The woman, who identified herself as the “Pool Queen,” refused to believe they were residents, however, and demanded they leave the pool. This didn’t sit well with Policard, who’s lived in the complex since 2016.

“We stare at each other,” she recalled of the incident. “I can tell she’s deciding what to say next. THEN, she tells me if I don’t live here I should leave. And I tell her that I already told her I was a resident!”

That’s when Policard says the woman demanded to know her building number, which she eventually gave to her after repeatedly being questioned. The woman eventually stormed off in frustration.

https://atlantablackstar.com/2018/08/04/self-avowed-pool-queen-storms-off-after-failing-to-intimidate-black-family-enjoying-their-neighborhood-pool/

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woman demands that black family leave pool (Original Post) Demovictory9 Aug 2018 OP
Swimming while being black vlyons Aug 2018 #1
She had no right to ask where they lived. dalton99a Aug 2018 #2
Hell, let them call management first Blue_Adept Aug 2018 #19
Is this just the Trump effect, mold leaching out of the woodwork, or something more? royable Aug 2018 #3
not new. has always been this way. black people using smart phones to record and distribute, Demovictory9 Aug 2018 #4
an example of social media used for good AlexSFCA Aug 2018 #6
historian discusses why white people keep panicking over blacks in pool Demovictory9 Aug 2018 #7
Social media has exposed it BumRushDaShow Aug 2018 #13
"So, see, once Mary Antoinette was too short to fill the position, it fell to Anna Anderson, struggle4progress Aug 2018 #5
I'd have told her to go fuck herself and to call the police if she wanted. brush Aug 2018 #8
I would not have given my address. Period. I would have called the police. SweetieD Aug 2018 #9
So would I. But that's because I'm not black. Mister Ed Aug 2018 #15
And there is our white privilege. nt brer cat Aug 2018 #17
Yes, for sure. That's white privilege in a nutshell. n/t Mister Ed Aug 2018 #22
I am black. I wouldn't give this woman my info. SweetieD Aug 2018 #21
I wish the lawyer had had a comeback ready, like "Excuse me. How do I know YOU live here? pnwmom Aug 2018 #10
That's what I wouldl have done..nt 2naSalit Aug 2018 #11
See I would have told her Please malaise Aug 2018 #12
Does the Pool Queen work? HipChick Aug 2018 #14
New sign for pools. safeinOhio Aug 2018 #16
And There Is RobinA Aug 2018 #20
WTF is a Pool Queen? DFW Aug 2018 #18
Nawwww .... She's the Tidy Bowl Man's crazy ex-wife who has Persondem Aug 2018 #23

Blue_Adept

(6,399 posts)
19. Hell, let them call management first
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 08:42 AM
Aug 2018

Cops don't need to be the first choice. Most of places like this have an office on-site.

royable

(1,264 posts)
3. Is this just the Trump effect, mold leaching out of the woodwork, or something more?
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 03:09 AM
Aug 2018

There have been so many of these sorts of reports lately, makes me wonder if there is some active push online or in the RWNJ media to call out blacks on their "living while black."
Or, is this just the media being more sensitive to these reports, which previously didn't make national news?

Demovictory9

(32,456 posts)
4. not new. has always been this way. black people using smart phones to record and distribute,
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 03:11 AM
Aug 2018

that's what is new.

Demovictory9

(32,456 posts)
7. historian discusses why white people keep panicking over blacks in pool
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 03:29 AM
Aug 2018

Jeff Wiltse, a historian focused on the social, cultural, and political dimensions of American public life, tells Raw Story that pools have a unique place in US race and class history. He has some ideas about why white people keep panicking when they see black people using a pool.

“I think there are two things that explain why incidents like this are happening this summer. One is that swimming pools are intimate public spaces,” he says. “They’re visually intimate, in that people show themselves and see others unclothed. Pools are also physically intimate—it’s the same enclosed body of water with other people. Swimmers intuitively sense they’re sharing same enclosed body of water is tantamount to physical contact with other people.”

“And there’s a social intimacy to pool use,” he notes. “People socialize, chat, flirt. For all these reasons historically Americans have been very protective of kind of the social use of pools,” Wiltse says. “We’ve policed who’s allowed to use pools, who’s not allowed to use pools… we pay careful attention of who’s using pools because of intimacy

Wiltse runs through the fascinating (and unsurprisingly awful) history. In the South, pools were officially segregated through much of the 20th century. In the North, you had de facto segregation: pools were policed with the threat of violence. “It was white swimmers using intimidation and violence to intimidate black swimmers using a pool for whites,” he says. Cities also built public pools in places too hard for black people to access.

When blacks began to migrate to North America’s urban centers in the Great Migration, they were forced to take the worst industrial jobs and so were swiftly deemed “dirty” in the imagination of urban whites. It didn’t help that around that time, white America became obsessed with the idea that black men wanted to rape white women (see: “Birth of a Nation).

https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/pool-queen-harasses-black-family-latest-incident-exposing-white-peoples-terror-black-people-pools/

BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
13. Social media has exposed it
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 05:49 AM
Aug 2018

There has been an insidious prevailing attitude that these are just "isolated incidents" but it gets to the point of where a disturbing series of "incidents" continues to show a pattern that has been around for a century.

I posted extensively on a swim club just outside of Philly that made national news back almost 10 years ago in 2009 - https://upload.democraticunderground.com/1014875014

In the end, the club went bankrupt and closed and the impacted campers received a monetary settlement (plus they got an all-expense paid trip to Disney World thanks to Tyler Perry).



Imagine - all these kids from back then are now in their late teens and 20s.

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
5. "So, see, once Mary Antoinette was too short to fill the position, it fell to Anna Anderson,
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 03:15 AM
Aug 2018

because she was the Grand Duchess Anastasia, but then she quit, and so that's how I became Pool Queen!"

brush

(53,778 posts)
8. I'd have told her to go fuck herself and to call the police if she wanted.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 03:53 AM
Aug 2018

Another wipypo trying to police black bodies.

Mister Ed

(5,933 posts)
15. So would I. But that's because I'm not black.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 06:27 AM
Aug 2018

As a white person, I have an innate confidence that I can count on the police to protect me, and to bring calm and order to an ugly situation. But I'm afraid black folks have very good reason to instead feel worried and apprehensive about an encounter with the police.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
10. I wish the lawyer had had a comeback ready, like "Excuse me. How do I know YOU live here?
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 04:30 AM
Aug 2018

I know I do, but you don't look like a resident to me!"

RobinA

(9,893 posts)
20. And There Is
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 08:44 AM
Aug 2018

the real problem - people not minding their business. It’s become all too common for people to be policing their neighbors. It’s ok nowadays to tell your neighbor what they are doing that you don’t approve of. Pet not on a leash? Children out of arm’s reach of parent? Someone you don’t recognize at the pool? Especially if you don’t approve of them for some reason in you own little mind. Grass not mowed for an extra week? Complain! No way you should have to live near something that bothers you!!!

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