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In the latest incident of swimming while Black, a Florida lawyer says she felt like a criminal in her own neighborhood after a woman questioned her familys presence at the pool, then demanded they leave.
Nadia Policard of Jacksonville detailed the incident in a Facebook post on Wednesday, saying she and her kids were lounging poolside and enjoying pizza at the Mira Vista condos when a random woman approached and asked if they were residents.
So the kids and I are at the pool today minding our own business, Policard wrote. I ask my son to snap a photo of me (for the Insta) when lady pictured here asks me where I live and tells me this pool is only for residents! So I tell her I am.
Then she asks me where I live, the post continues. I ask why she thinks I am not a resident. She tells me theyve had a problem with non-residents bringing truckloads of people to the pool. So I ask her, Do the three of us look like a truckload to you? Whats the real issue?'
The woman, who identified herself as the Pool Queen, refused to believe they were residents, however, and demanded they leave the pool. This didnt sit well with Policard, whos lived in the complex since 2016.
We stare at each other, she recalled of the incident. I can tell shes deciding what to say next. THEN, she tells me if I dont live here I should leave. And I tell her that I already told her I was a resident!
Thats when Policard says the woman demanded to know her building number, which she eventually gave to her after repeatedly being questioned. The woman eventually stormed off in frustration.
https://atlantablackstar.com/2018/08/04/self-avowed-pool-queen-storms-off-after-failing-to-intimidate-black-family-enjoying-their-neighborhood-pool/
vlyons
(10,252 posts)Good for her for standing up to the Pool Queen.
dalton99a
(81,488 posts)Let her call the cops
Blue_Adept
(6,399 posts)Cops don't need to be the first choice. Most of places like this have an office on-site.
royable
(1,264 posts)There have been so many of these sorts of reports lately, makes me wonder if there is some active push online or in the RWNJ media to call out blacks on their "living while black."
Or, is this just the media being more sensitive to these reports, which previously didn't make national news?
Demovictory9
(32,456 posts)that's what is new.
AlexSFCA
(6,137 posts)Demovictory9
(32,456 posts)Jeff Wiltse, a historian focused on the social, cultural, and political dimensions of American public life, tells Raw Story that pools have a unique place in US race and class history. He has some ideas about why white people keep panicking when they see black people using a pool.
I think there are two things that explain why incidents like this are happening this summer. One is that swimming pools are intimate public spaces, he says. Theyre visually intimate, in that people show themselves and see others unclothed. Pools are also physically intimateits the same enclosed body of water with other people. Swimmers intuitively sense theyre sharing same enclosed body of water is tantamount to physical contact with other people.
And theres a social intimacy to pool use, he notes. People socialize, chat, flirt. For all these reasons historically Americans have been very protective of kind of the social use of pools, Wiltse says. Weve policed whos allowed to use pools, whos not allowed to use pools
we pay careful attention of whos using pools because of intimacy
Wiltse runs through the fascinating (and unsurprisingly awful) history. In the South, pools were officially segregated through much of the 20th century. In the North, you had de facto segregation: pools were policed with the threat of violence. It was white swimmers using intimidation and violence to intimidate black swimmers using a pool for whites, he says. Cities also built public pools in places too hard for black people to access.
When blacks began to migrate to North Americas urban centers in the Great Migration, they were forced to take the worst industrial jobs and so were swiftly deemed dirty in the imagination of urban whites. It didnt help that around that time, white America became obsessed with the idea that black men wanted to rape white women (see: Birth of a Nation).
https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/pool-queen-harasses-black-family-latest-incident-exposing-white-peoples-terror-black-people-pools/
BumRushDaShow
(128,979 posts)There has been an insidious prevailing attitude that these are just "isolated incidents" but it gets to the point of where a disturbing series of "incidents" continues to show a pattern that has been around for a century.
I posted extensively on a swim club just outside of Philly that made national news back almost 10 years ago in 2009 - https://upload.democraticunderground.com/1014875014
In the end, the club went bankrupt and closed and the impacted campers received a monetary settlement (plus they got an all-expense paid trip to Disney World thanks to Tyler Perry).
Imagine - all these kids from back then are now in their late teens and 20s.
struggle4progress
(118,282 posts)because she was the Grand Duchess Anastasia, but then she quit, and so that's how I became Pool Queen!"
brush
(53,778 posts)Another wipypo trying to police black bodies.
SweetieD
(1,660 posts)Mister Ed
(5,933 posts)As a white person, I have an innate confidence that I can count on the police to protect me, and to bring calm and order to an ugly situation. But I'm afraid black folks have very good reason to instead feel worried and apprehensive about an encounter with the police.
brer cat
(24,565 posts)Mister Ed
(5,933 posts)SweetieD
(1,660 posts)pnwmom
(108,978 posts)I know I do, but you don't look like a resident to me!"
2naSalit
(86,612 posts)malaise
(268,998 posts)to Fuck Off.
HipChick
(25,485 posts)I would have asked her to prove she was a resident..
safeinOhio
(32,677 posts)No Stupid Zone
Please mind your own business.
RobinA
(9,893 posts)the real problem - people not minding their business. Its become all too common for people to be policing their neighbors. Its ok nowadays to tell your neighbor what they are doing that you dont approve of. Pet not on a leash? Children out of arms reach of parent? Someone you dont recognize at the pool? Especially if you dont approve of them for some reason in you own little mind. Grass not mowed for an extra week? Complain! No way you should have to live near something that bothers you!!!
DFW
(54,379 posts)The spouse of His Imperial Majesty, the Pool King?
Persondem
(1,936 posts)delusions of grandeur.