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Demovictory9

(32,456 posts)
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 03:02 AM Aug 2018

woman high on something calls cops on black woman waiting for Uber

On Wednesday, July 25, Darsell Obregon shared a video on Facebook of a White woman, later identified as Arabella Juniper Torres, calling the police on her after she sought shelter from the rain in a doorway while waiting for an Uber in Brooklyn, New York.

Obregon detailed the incident, which happened the Sunday before her public post. “I was in #Brooklyn walking to the train when a sudden rain storm began and I hid in the doorway OUTSIDE of a random apartment in #ParkSlope to shield myself from the rain and call an Uber,” she wrote. “No more than 3 minutes later a young woman who lives in the building opened the front door and told me that I can not stand there and had to leave. I told her I was not going to move (unbeknownst to her I was just waiting for my ride and would be leaving in a couple of minutes) so then she proceeded to call the police.”


“Ma’am this is not public property,” Torres can be heard saying to the dispatcher. “So you’re sending an officer because now she’s recording me … I asked her to leave and now she’s refusing.”

Later in the video, Obregon got into her Uber and was followed by the young White woman. The driver began to slowly pull off when Torres told him, “If you go anywhere, you’ll be committing a crime as well; you know that, right?” She then frantically provided the license plate to the 911 operator.

https://www.ebony.com/news-views/white-woman-calls-cops-black-woman-uber-video

https://www.facebook.com/Darsell/videos/pcb.10160664328000187/10160664326740187/?type=3&theater

https://www.facebook.com/Darsell/videos/pcb.10160664328000187/10160664327270187/?type=3&theater

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woman high on something calls cops on black woman waiting for Uber (Original Post) Demovictory9 Aug 2018 OP
"Help! Help! 911! I just saw this woman get into an uber! And she's black!" struggle4progress Aug 2018 #1
she is super twitchy. cops should search her apartment for drugs Demovictory9 Aug 2018 #2
She is not black. Tipperary Aug 2018 #10
The complainant apparently identifies her as black. IMO she gets to decide who she actually is struggle4progress Aug 2018 #38
Sounds like she says "black" at about 1:10, but greyl Aug 2018 #43
Another weird roadtrip through the surreal landscape of american racial ideas: struggle4progress Aug 2018 #44
Another nutjob wypipo trying to police black bodies, threatening the Uber driver even. brush Aug 2018 #3
She is not black. Headline is incorrect. Tipperary Aug 2018 #8
Who is not black? I know the nutjob isn't. Are you saying the person... brush Aug 2018 #13
The person she called the cops on is not black oberliner Aug 2018 #19
Exactly. She states on her own fb page that she is NOT black. Tipperary Aug 2018 #22
Sincerely, the police need to curb this by first calmly assesing the sitiuation and then just as Afromania Aug 2018 #4
At the very least DFW Aug 2018 #5
Which would serve to discourage people from calling the police if there is an actual need mythology Aug 2018 #6
What part of following this lady to her uber and trying to detain her warranted your particular Afromania Aug 2018 #17
But she is not black. She says so herself on her fb page. Tipperary Aug 2018 #7
It is bizarre that people are ignoring this oberliner Aug 2018 #14
Nah, du hates when a narrative gets derailed. Especially this type of narrative. Tipperary Aug 2018 #23
Yes, the headlines in the media are blatantly dishonest oberliner Aug 2018 #25
That she is not black does not deny racism. LanternWaste Aug 2018 #41
Is someone putting something in the water supply or something? Initech Aug 2018 #9
Personally Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2018 #11
And the fact that we have actual Nazis in the White House like Stephen Miller clearly isn't helping. Initech Aug 2018 #18
That too. Proud Liberal Dem Aug 2018 #20
But this has nothing to do with white racism. The "victim" is not black. Tipperary Aug 2018 #24
It's not up to us to determine who is and isn't black. yardwork Aug 2018 #31
true this heaven05 Aug 2018 #37
acting like a racist white person heaven05 Aug 2018 #32
She isn't a black woman oberliner Aug 2018 #12
Torres is still a nutjob. Cops should've tested her for substance abuse? brush Aug 2018 #15
She says that she suffers from autism oberliner Aug 2018 #16
If she's triggered by seeing strangers outside her apartment, why does she live in Brooklyn? yardwork Aug 2018 #21
Right - but why is this being presented as "white woman calls cops on black woman" ? oberliner Aug 2018 #26
The woman who was the target is a person of color. yardwork Aug 2018 #28
Darsell Obregon: "I am not Black and never claimed to be." oberliner Aug 2018 #33
Hispanic people are people of color. yardwork Aug 2018 #45
The article and headline say "White woman calls cops on Black woman" oberliner Aug 2018 #46
So autistic people can't live in Brooklyn now? dsc Aug 2018 #27
It's not up to me who lives in Brooklyn. yardwork Aug 2018 #29
The sidewalk is public property. torius Aug 2018 #40
Some Latinas are black women. yardwork Aug 2018 #30
But not her oberliner Aug 2018 #34
In that case the media need to correct their reporting on this. yardwork Aug 2018 #35
Agreed oberliner Aug 2018 #36
Light-skinned Latina calls cops on light-skinned Latina wonkwest Aug 2018 #39
The story should be: Why did Ebony magazine use the title they used? oberliner Aug 2018 #42

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
38. The complainant apparently identifies her as black. IMO she gets to decide who she actually is
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 12:53 PM
Aug 2018

but racism denies that to people

greyl

(22,990 posts)
43. Sounds like she says "black" at about 1:10, but
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 03:42 PM
Aug 2018

not at all clear if she's describing the woman's skin, hair, or clothing. A short period of time is edited out of the video just before.

struggle4progress

(118,282 posts)
44. Another weird roadtrip through the surreal landscape of american racial ideas:
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 04:22 PM
Aug 2018

crazy lady calls cops because other woman on sidewalk. did she do it because she thought the other woman was black? maybe. but is the other woman "really" black? shizz, where is a racial registry when you need one? wait! she says she's actually cuban. well, she doesn't look much like a cube to me ...

brush

(53,778 posts)
13. Who is not black? I know the nutjob isn't. Are you saying the person...
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:52 AM
Aug 2018

she called the cops on is not black?

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
19. The person she called the cops on is not black
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:31 AM
Aug 2018

(Sorry to respond to you twice - didn't realize same poster here and down thread)

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
22. Exactly. She states on her own fb page that she is NOT black.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:54 AM
Aug 2018

So then nut job is still a nut job, but the story does not fit the narrative of the other stories, like the barbecue woman or the water nutcase.

Afromania

(2,768 posts)
4. Sincerely, the police need to curb this by first calmly assesing the sitiuation and then just as
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 07:19 AM
Aug 2018

calmly arrest them for whatever the charge is for harassing, following, stalking people is. Doing nothing just leaves their miserable asses out there to do it again.

DFW

(54,380 posts)
5. At the very least
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 07:51 AM
Aug 2018

These nut cases need to be fined for the wasted time and resources the city lost on indulging their own obsessions. Instead of chasing an Uber client, the cops could have been doing something else, like maybe law enforcement.

 

mythology

(9,527 posts)
6. Which would serve to discourage people from calling the police if there is an actual need
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 08:17 AM
Aug 2018

I've had the cops called on me for standing outside an apartment building. I had to spend 20 minutes convincing them that I wasn't a drug dealer. I probably wouldn't call the cops if I saw somebody standing in my building entry way in the rain, but I'm a big guy and have more leeway on that front. But I can also see somebody else not being comfortable with a random person lurking in their entryway at night. Being a big guy, I wouldn't do that because I'm aware it would could make others uncomfortable. They don't know I'm not a criminal. Likewise in the past I've needed directions at night. I always make sure to only ask when I'm in a lighted area and keep my hands visible and movements slow, particularly if I'm approaching a woman. Again, I'm not a rapist, but I understand too many others are. So I take extra precautions to not present a threat.

Why not stand in either a truly public place's entryway or a tree or a bus stop, etc?

Afromania

(2,768 posts)
17. What part of following this lady to her uber and trying to detain her warranted your particular
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:00 AM
Aug 2018

response? It didn't explain how its going to stop people from calling the police when needed. If some burly ass dude is loitering at night and doesn't live there you call the cops. If some lady is waiting out the rain and tells you she's waiting out the rain you go about your business.

Don't know where you live but from time to time we've had folks wait a heavy surprise down pour on the porch. You ask what's going on asses the situation and keep stepping.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
14. It is bizarre that people are ignoring this
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:56 AM
Aug 2018

I posted a photo of the two people involved down thread.

(Obregon is of Cuban descent and Torres is of Puerto Rican descent)

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
23. Nah, du hates when a narrative gets derailed. Especially this type of narrative.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:56 AM
Aug 2018

To be fair to the op, the headlines in the media all said the same. Still, if I were the op I would include the fact in there somewhere.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
25. Yes, the headlines in the media are blatantly dishonest
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:44 AM
Aug 2018

The Ebony headline is: "White Woman Calls Cops on Black Woman Waiting for an Uber" which is just an outright lie.

 

LanternWaste

(37,748 posts)
41. That she is not black does not deny racism.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 01:14 PM
Aug 2018

Consistently pretending otherwise certainly illustrates another "narrative..."

And if we are indeed referencing her FB page as a primary source, we can (again) only pretend not to notice the following tags: #thisisamerica #permitpatty #bbqbecky #truth #whiteprivilege #callingthecops #pettypatty #america #accountability #wecandobetter #Police #epidemic #entitlement

Proud Liberal Dem

(24,412 posts)
11. Personally
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:45 AM
Aug 2018

I think that a lot of this has to do with Trump. He has created a climate/environment where racists and bigots feel fully empowered to harass people they don't like- immigrants (or people whom look like they might be), minorities, LGBT persons, et. al. They feel that Trump and other authorities (Police, ICE) have their back- and, unfortunately, I don't believe that they are mistaken.

Initech

(100,076 posts)
18. And the fact that we have actual Nazis in the White House like Stephen Miller clearly isn't helping.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:26 AM
Aug 2018

They've basically made white racism become self aware.

 

Tipperary

(6,930 posts)
24. But this has nothing to do with white racism. The "victim" is not black.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:58 AM
Aug 2018

Both she and the idiot are Hispanic.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
37. true this
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 12:11 PM
Aug 2018

but if they act white and racist then they identify with white racists. Same, same. No excuses or any need to apologize for them. They are disgusting, racist, bigoted, prejudiced human beings. One or all of the above wrapped up in one nice neat package of trump MAGA action.

 

heaven05

(18,124 posts)
32. acting like a racist white person
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 12:08 PM
Aug 2018

so a wannabe racist, hateful, bigoted, prejudiced white person. Lot's of them still in circulation.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
12. She isn't a black woman
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:50 AM
Aug 2018

Both the woman waiting for the Uber and the woman who called the police are Latina.


Top photo is Obregon bottom photo is Torres.

brush

(53,778 posts)
15. Torres is still a nutjob. Cops should've tested her for substance abuse?
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:57 AM
Aug 2018

Her ravings at the Uber driver was a clear giveaway she was on something.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
16. She says that she suffers from autism
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:00 AM
Aug 2018
“As somebody with autism I’m extremely uncomfortable with having strangers in front of the house,” she said. “It’s extremely triggering to have to walk out and see a stranger there. To me, this person might attack me, I don’t know.”

Torres said that she’s lived in Park Slope for her entire life and that “most people have the courtesy to move” when she’s asked in the past. She also said that the whole street is covered in awning that Obregon could have used.

The college student, who was home alone at the time, said that if her parents had been in the house she probably wouldn’t have gotten so worked up or called the cops.

Torres said she’s now receiving death threats from people accusing her of racism.

https://nypost.com/2018/08/02/white-woman-called-cops-on-me-for-standing-in-doorway-during-rain/

Sorry for citing the NY Post - but they are the ones who interviewed her.

yardwork

(61,608 posts)
21. If she's triggered by seeing strangers outside her apartment, why does she live in Brooklyn?
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:43 AM
Aug 2018

Is she actually suggesting that Brooklyn NY should be a stranger-free zone?

She might be happier living in a very small town in a rural area.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
26. Right - but why is this being presented as "white woman calls cops on black woman" ?
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:46 AM
Aug 2018

I mean that's just blatantly not true in this case.

Also the person who called the cops is 19 and was staying with her parents. Perhaps she will move somewhere rural when she gets older.

yardwork

(61,608 posts)
28. The woman who was the target is a person of color.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:56 AM
Aug 2018

The recent spate of apparently racially-motivated 911 calls is probably the only reason that this incident is being reported at all. I have no idea if this particular instance was racially motivated or not, but on the surface it looks similar to the many recent instances where people called the cops on people of color.

The ethnic identities of Latino people vary by the individual. Latino individuals may also identify as black.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
33. Darsell Obregon: "I am not Black and never claimed to be."
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 12:08 PM
Aug 2018

That's from her instagram.

https://www.instagram.com/p/BmB7mkEhPok/?taken-by=iamdarsell

Full quote: "I am not Black and never claimed to be. I am a Hispanic woman."

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
46. The article and headline say "White woman calls cops on Black woman"
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 06:05 PM
Aug 2018

Neither woman is Black and both women are Hispanic (i.e. persons of color).

So the headline could read "Person of Color calls cops on Person of Color" but it doesn't.

(The article does not use the term "person of color" at any point)

Edit to add: My post was in response to your comment "Latino individuals may also identify as black." - thought it was significant to point out that this particular individual explicitly does not identify as black.

dsc

(52,162 posts)
27. So autistic people can't live in Brooklyn now?
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:52 AM
Aug 2018

While chasing the Uber driver was out of line, I have no problem at all for her calling the cops on a person who is on someone else's property late at night, is asked to move, and refuses. That is what this woman upon whom the cops were called did.

yardwork

(61,608 posts)
29. It's not up to me who lives in Brooklyn.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:58 AM
Aug 2018

I'm just making the observation that being triggered by strangers might make for an uncomfortable daily life in Brooklyn.

torius

(1,652 posts)
40. The sidewalk is public property.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 01:05 PM
Aug 2018

She was outside of the building. She is allowed to stand there. Sidewalks are public property maintained by taxpayers. Brooklyn is a city, it’s not like she was standing outside someone’s house in their yard.

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
34. But not her
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 12:08 PM
Aug 2018

"I am not Black and never claimed to be. I am a Hispanic woman."

From her instagram account, posted above.

 

wonkwest

(463 posts)
39. Light-skinned Latina calls cops on light-skinned Latina
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 01:01 PM
Aug 2018

And the story is . . .

I mean outside of the substance abuse or mental illness (the caller claims she's on the spectrum).

 

oberliner

(58,724 posts)
42. The story should be: Why did Ebony magazine use the title they used?
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 03:26 PM
Aug 2018

And spin the story the way that they did?

"The Brooklyn resident becomes the latest White person to be recorded calling the cops on Black people carrying out everyday tasks...."

(That is from the Ebony story linked to in the OP)

Not just Ebony, but also Newsweek, MSN, and others still have the same headline and spin for this story.

The false headline is still up in those places, even though the woman in question posted this on their instagram account three days ago:

"I am not Black and never claimed to be."
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