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On Wednesday, July 25, Darsell Obregon shared a video on Facebook of a White woman, later identified as Arabella Juniper Torres, calling the police on her after she sought shelter from the rain in a doorway while waiting for an Uber in Brooklyn, New York.
Obregon detailed the incident, which happened the Sunday before her public post. I was in #Brooklyn walking to the train when a sudden rain storm began and I hid in the doorway OUTSIDE of a random apartment in #ParkSlope to shield myself from the rain and call an Uber, she wrote. No more than 3 minutes later a young woman who lives in the building opened the front door and told me that I can not stand there and had to leave. I told her I was not going to move (unbeknownst to her I was just waiting for my ride and would be leaving in a couple of minutes) so then she proceeded to call the police.
Maam this is not public property, Torres can be heard saying to the dispatcher. So youre sending an officer because now shes recording me
I asked her to leave and now shes refusing.
Later in the video, Obregon got into her Uber and was followed by the young White woman. The driver began to slowly pull off when Torres told him, If you go anywhere, youll be committing a crime as well; you know that, right? She then frantically provided the license plate to the 911 operator.
https://www.ebony.com/news-views/white-woman-calls-cops-black-woman-uber-video
https://www.facebook.com/Darsell/videos/pcb.10160664328000187/10160664326740187/?type=3&theater
https://www.facebook.com/Darsell/videos/pcb.10160664328000187/10160664327270187/?type=3&theater
struggle4progress
(118,282 posts)Demovictory9
(32,456 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)struggle4progress
(118,282 posts)but racism denies that to people
greyl
(22,990 posts)not at all clear if she's describing the woman's skin, hair, or clothing. A short period of time is edited out of the video just before.
struggle4progress
(118,282 posts)crazy lady calls cops because other woman on sidewalk. did she do it because she thought the other woman was black? maybe. but is the other woman "really" black? shizz, where is a racial registry when you need one? wait! she says she's actually cuban. well, she doesn't look much like a cube to me ...
brush
(53,778 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)brush
(53,778 posts)she called the cops on is not black?
oberliner
(58,724 posts)(Sorry to respond to you twice - didn't realize same poster here and down thread)
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)So then nut job is still a nut job, but the story does not fit the narrative of the other stories, like the barbecue woman or the water nutcase.
Afromania
(2,768 posts)calmly arrest them for whatever the charge is for harassing, following, stalking people is. Doing nothing just leaves their miserable asses out there to do it again.
DFW
(54,380 posts)These nut cases need to be fined for the wasted time and resources the city lost on indulging their own obsessions. Instead of chasing an Uber client, the cops could have been doing something else, like maybe law enforcement.
mythology
(9,527 posts)I've had the cops called on me for standing outside an apartment building. I had to spend 20 minutes convincing them that I wasn't a drug dealer. I probably wouldn't call the cops if I saw somebody standing in my building entry way in the rain, but I'm a big guy and have more leeway on that front. But I can also see somebody else not being comfortable with a random person lurking in their entryway at night. Being a big guy, I wouldn't do that because I'm aware it would could make others uncomfortable. They don't know I'm not a criminal. Likewise in the past I've needed directions at night. I always make sure to only ask when I'm in a lighted area and keep my hands visible and movements slow, particularly if I'm approaching a woman. Again, I'm not a rapist, but I understand too many others are. So I take extra precautions to not present a threat.
Why not stand in either a truly public place's entryway or a tree or a bus stop, etc?
Afromania
(2,768 posts)response? It didn't explain how its going to stop people from calling the police when needed. If some burly ass dude is loitering at night and doesn't live there you call the cops. If some lady is waiting out the rain and tells you she's waiting out the rain you go about your business.
Don't know where you live but from time to time we've had folks wait a heavy surprise down pour on the porch. You ask what's going on asses the situation and keep stepping.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)I posted a photo of the two people involved down thread.
(Obregon is of Cuban descent and Torres is of Puerto Rican descent)
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)To be fair to the op, the headlines in the media all said the same. Still, if I were the op I would include the fact in there somewhere.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)The Ebony headline is: "White Woman Calls Cops on Black Woman Waiting for an Uber" which is just an outright lie.
LanternWaste
(37,748 posts)Consistently pretending otherwise certainly illustrates another "narrative..."
And if we are indeed referencing her FB page as a primary source, we can (again) only pretend not to notice the following tags: #thisisamerica #permitpatty #bbqbecky #truth #whiteprivilege #callingthecops #pettypatty #america #accountability #wecandobetter #Police #epidemic #entitlement
Initech
(100,076 posts)Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)I think that a lot of this has to do with Trump. He has created a climate/environment where racists and bigots feel fully empowered to harass people they don't like- immigrants (or people whom look like they might be), minorities, LGBT persons, et. al. They feel that Trump and other authorities (Police, ICE) have their back- and, unfortunately, I don't believe that they are mistaken.
Initech
(100,076 posts)They've basically made white racism become self aware.
Proud Liberal Dem
(24,412 posts)Tipperary
(6,930 posts)Both she and the idiot are Hispanic.
yardwork
(61,608 posts)heaven05
(18,124 posts)but if they act white and racist then they identify with white racists. Same, same. No excuses or any need to apologize for them. They are disgusting, racist, bigoted, prejudiced human beings. One or all of the above wrapped up in one nice neat package of trump MAGA action.
heaven05
(18,124 posts)so a wannabe racist, hateful, bigoted, prejudiced white person. Lot's of them still in circulation.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Both the woman waiting for the Uber and the woman who called the police are Latina.
Top photo is Obregon bottom photo is Torres.
brush
(53,778 posts)Her ravings at the Uber driver was a clear giveaway she was on something.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)Torres said that shes lived in Park Slope for her entire life and that most people have the courtesy to move when shes asked in the past. She also said that the whole street is covered in awning that Obregon could have used.
The college student, who was home alone at the time, said that if her parents had been in the house she probably wouldnt have gotten so worked up or called the cops.
Torres said shes now receiving death threats from people accusing her of racism.
https://nypost.com/2018/08/02/white-woman-called-cops-on-me-for-standing-in-doorway-during-rain/
Sorry for citing the NY Post - but they are the ones who interviewed her.
yardwork
(61,608 posts)Is she actually suggesting that Brooklyn NY should be a stranger-free zone?
She might be happier living in a very small town in a rural area.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)I mean that's just blatantly not true in this case.
Also the person who called the cops is 19 and was staying with her parents. Perhaps she will move somewhere rural when she gets older.
yardwork
(61,608 posts)The recent spate of apparently racially-motivated 911 calls is probably the only reason that this incident is being reported at all. I have no idea if this particular instance was racially motivated or not, but on the surface it looks similar to the many recent instances where people called the cops on people of color.
The ethnic identities of Latino people vary by the individual. Latino individuals may also identify as black.
oberliner
(58,724 posts)That's from her instagram.
https://www.instagram.com/p/BmB7mkEhPok/?taken-by=iamdarsell
Full quote: "I am not Black and never claimed to be. I am a Hispanic woman."
yardwork
(61,608 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)Neither woman is Black and both women are Hispanic (i.e. persons of color).
So the headline could read "Person of Color calls cops on Person of Color" but it doesn't.
(The article does not use the term "person of color" at any point)
Edit to add: My post was in response to your comment "Latino individuals may also identify as black." - thought it was significant to point out that this particular individual explicitly does not identify as black.
dsc
(52,162 posts)While chasing the Uber driver was out of line, I have no problem at all for her calling the cops on a person who is on someone else's property late at night, is asked to move, and refuses. That is what this woman upon whom the cops were called did.
yardwork
(61,608 posts)I'm just making the observation that being triggered by strangers might make for an uncomfortable daily life in Brooklyn.
torius
(1,652 posts)She was outside of the building. She is allowed to stand there. Sidewalks are public property maintained by taxpayers. Brooklyn is a city, its not like she was standing outside someones house in their yard.
yardwork
(61,608 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)"I am not Black and never claimed to be. I am a Hispanic woman."
From her instagram account, posted above.
yardwork
(61,608 posts)oberliner
(58,724 posts)wonkwest
(463 posts)And the story is . . .
I mean outside of the substance abuse or mental illness (the caller claims she's on the spectrum).
oberliner
(58,724 posts)And spin the story the way that they did?
(That is from the Ebony story linked to in the OP)
Not just Ebony, but also Newsweek, MSN, and others still have the same headline and spin for this story.
The false headline is still up in those places, even though the woman in question posted this on their instagram account three days ago:
"I am not Black and never claimed to be."