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berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:47 AM Aug 2018

In Broad Daylight, The Smoking Gun: Tweeted from Trump Tower on May 11, 2016

Last edited Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:51 AM - Edit history (1)

From the person who is now the White House Director of Social Media and was a former General Manager of Trump National Golf Club Westchester... he tweeted this directly from Trump Tower, linking an article form Laura Ingraham's website.

Remember the timeline, this is May 11, 2016:

Kremlin has Hillary’s emails. Russia has 20,000 emails stolen from her secret home server. @IngrahamAngle #Trump2016


The tweet (it's still up there):



The article he linked is here:

https://www.lifezette.com/2016/05/kremlin-has-hillary-emails/

An excerpt since most may not want to give it traffic:

Kremlin Has Hillary’s Emails
Russia has 20,000 emails stolen from her secret home server


The Kremlin is considering whether or not to release some 20,000 hacked Clinton emails reportedly in its possession.
Russian security services apparently obtained the emails as part of their investigation into the Romanian hacker Marcel Lehel Lazar, known as “Guccifer” — now in U.S. custody in relation to the Clinton email scandal.


Now let's cross-reference this with the timeline combining what was publicly known and from the latest Mueller indictment (see prior post here: https://www.democraticunderground.com/100210865447):


From the Indictment, on March 21, the indicted co-conspirators had obtained 50,000 emails. (apparently the Ingraham article was inaccurate on the number)

From the Timeline, Trump Campaign learned of dirt on Clinton in April 2016.


May 11th, the tweet above.

According to Giuliani's recent public statements, there was a meeting on June 7th about the meeting on the 9th with the Russians in Trump Tower

On June 7th, Trump announces a speech he'll give the following week on the dirt on Hillary.

On June 9th, the meeting with the Russians in Trump Tower occurs.

From the indictment, beginning in June 2016, the co-conspirators released the stolen info onto the site DCLeaks which they set up. Stolen information continued to be leaked here throughout the campaign.


So, it appears in the meeting on June 9th, the Russians informed the Trump Campaign that they were not just going to give them the emails, that they would release them through DCLeaks.

Trump never holds the speech on Hillary he promised.

From the indictment, on June 22, 2016, Organization 1 (I'm going to say it's WikiLeaks), communicates with conspirators explaining they will have a much bigger impact in affecting the election if they leak the data to them. Transfer of information from conspirators to Organization 1 was completed mid July of 2016.

At this point, I think Laura's got some spraining to do. She was a front runner for the communications director for Trump after she gave a rousing speech for him at the RNC. She obviously knew that Trump and his campaign were pursuing the dirt on Hillary that the Russians stole and that the Russian's stole it. And she was obviously feeding the campaign this information, directly or indirectly, which triggered the campaign to pursue it.
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In Broad Daylight, The Smoking Gun: Tweeted from Trump Tower on May 11, 2016 (Original Post) berni_mccoy Aug 2018 OP
The corruption sage continues...... ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2018 #1
Kick dalton99a Aug 2018 #2
Great point! Ingraham is back in now with Jr. letting him lie dawg day Aug 2018 #3
there was no dirt because hillary was never the evil monster republicans tried to paint her as. unblock Aug 2018 #5
Exactly. They didn't have any "dirt" on her because there WAS no "dirt" to begin with. calimary Aug 2018 #9
Exactly. Cuz u didn't have $ in ur hands when u left the bank IS NOT EQUAL to u not trying to rob it iluvtennis Aug 2018 #10
Stolen? Cracklin Charlie Aug 2018 #4
Exactly. There is more... berni_mccoy Aug 2018 #6
This is good work. Cracklin Charlie Aug 2018 #8
I think A Weiners laptop was hacked all through his 2016 sexting year. Sunlei Aug 2018 #7
They did not find anything useful for them. cutroot Aug 2018 #11
Kick Cognitive_Resonance Aug 2018 #12
Wow! blue-wave Aug 2018 #13
Recommended. H2O Man Aug 2018 #14
I have my doubts about that... eallen Aug 2018 #15
Just because the FBI says they found no evidence, doesn't mean it wasn't hacked. berni_mccoy Aug 2018 #21
You're confusing the DNC server with Clinton's server eallen Aug 2018 #30
Don't forget this ditty BumRushDaShow Aug 2018 #16
Rep. Eric Swalwell just tweeted about this DesertRat Aug 2018 #17
Good, it's a point that deserves attention... berni_mccoy Aug 2018 #23
Laura, incidentally, moondust Aug 2018 #18
Interesting... berni_mccoy Aug 2018 #19
Check it out... DesertRat Aug 2018 #20
Excellent! rusty fender Aug 2018 #24
That's been cleaned up teach1st Aug 2018 #25
Ah! DesertRat Aug 2018 #26
How trump operates DownriverDem Aug 2018 #22
except that Russians never hacked Hilary's email server (that we know of). lapfog_1 Aug 2018 #27
From the indictment (I think this is what the Russian's meant) berni_mccoy Aug 2018 #28
Thank you for the explanation lapfrog TheRealNorth Aug 2018 #29

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,785 posts)
1. The corruption sage continues......
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:50 AM
Aug 2018


Imagine for a moment were this Pre. Obama doing this to Mitt Romney in 2012, the scandal this would have caused.

How would Republicans have reacted?

dawg day

(7,947 posts)
3. Great point! Ingraham is back in now with Jr. letting him lie
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:55 AM
Aug 2018

We need to keep repeating though: "There was no dirt." The mere existence of emails shouldn't be referred to as somehow evidence of "dirt." They didn't have anything on Clinton. Even Donnie Jr said that-- "the meeting to get dirt on her was a nothingburger!"

There's this continuing taint that the Russians really did have something on her... but there was nothing, nothing important anyway.

Trump and his defenders are so projective-- they're completely corrupt, but that's what they blame on everyone else. Now Trump is tweeting that HILLARY colluded with the Russians! How idiotic-- he loves Putin, Putin "loves" him-- said so in Helsinki... but somehow they colluded with Clinton?
Not that we should expect any honesty or even consistency or logic from Trump.

unblock

(52,227 posts)
5. there was no dirt because hillary was never the evil monster republicans tried to paint her as.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:10 AM
Aug 2018

the real hillary story should have been, long ago, how she has been the single most investigated person in history and no one has ever found anything criminal, or really, anything particularly embarrassing.

years of investigating everything from whitewater to emails to benghazi to even *stealing* private correspondence, and really nothing of consequence.

*that* should have been the story. not "hillary under investigation again", but "republicans try to smear hillary after repeated failures".


in any event, the fact that they couldn't find any "dirt" has nothing to do with it being a crime.


"we didn't find anything interesting" was never even advanced as a defense during watergate.

calimary

(81,267 posts)
9. Exactly. They didn't have any "dirt" on her because there WAS no "dirt" to begin with.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:35 AM
Aug 2018

This was a house built in absolute across-the-board lies.

It was quite revealing when someone on camera recently posed the questions “how many indictments, in how long, in the Mueller probe so far?” Answer: 35, in roughly a year or so.

“And how many indictments were there in the Benghazi probe over some 4 years or so?” Answer: Zero.

“And how many indictments in the email probe of at least 2 years or so?” Answer: Zero.

They got NOTHING on her. Considering all the time, effort, and MILLIONS of taxpayer dollars spent on persecuting her, you’d think they’d have found something that stuck. ANYTHING that stuck. And there was NOTHING. SQUAT. ZILCH. ZIPPO. NADA.

And it sure as hell wasn’t for lack of trying. And still, they got NOTHING.

iluvtennis

(19,858 posts)
10. Exactly. Cuz u didn't have $ in ur hands when u left the bank IS NOT EQUAL to u not trying to rob it
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:47 AM
Aug 2018

Cracklin Charlie

(12,904 posts)
4. Stolen?
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:10 AM
Aug 2018

They knew, and publicly confirmed in May, 2016, that they were buying “stolen” property.

We need to spend more time on this.

Good find!

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
6. Exactly. There is more...
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:33 AM
Aug 2018

when you splice in the timeline from Papadopalous's indictment, you get even more context... working on a new post that covers the timeline splicing all of the indictments and public knowledge together...

Sunlei

(22,651 posts)
7. I think A Weiners laptop was hacked all through his 2016 sexting year.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:46 AM
Aug 2018

An older family laptop it was probably used at some point by Huma for work emails.

Was probably pretty easy for someone to send Weiner some texts/pictures with attached keylogger/malware or virus. hack everything out of that old laptop.

9/2016-DailyMail.com reported that a 15-year-old girl claims she has been having an online sexual relationship with Weiner since January.

8/2016 -According to the Wall Street Journal, New York FBI agents investigating Weiner’s communications with the underage girl seized electronic devices looking for child pornography, including a laptop that was apparently used by both Weiner and Abedin.

8/2016- Weiner reemerged in the news when the New York Post printed photos of him sexting in bed with his toddler son lying next to him. The woman he was communicating with was an adult Trump supporter.



cutroot

(875 posts)
11. They did not find anything useful for them.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:49 AM
Aug 2018

They still committed a crime. They broke into the bank and blew the safe. Now, they want to feign innocence because the target wasn't rich enough for them. It is such a testament to their ignorance that they spent so much time and our money chasing the Hillary ghost and failed so miserably. Not even a single indictment.

blue-wave

(4,353 posts)
13. Wow!
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 12:19 PM
Aug 2018

Great info.! As many on this site have said, many, many republicons are at least complicit, if not out right guilty of treasonous activity. This firmly cements one more piece into the puzzle.

eallen

(2,953 posts)
15. I have my doubts about that...
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 12:25 PM
Aug 2018

The FBI says they found no evidence Clinton's server was compromised. Now, yes, Weiner's laptop might have been. But it also is quite feasible that the Guccifer's 2.0 claim to have hacked Clinton's server was just Russian propaganda to further roil the compaign.

When Clinton's emails were (mostly) made public, that wasn't through some hacker. It was through a FOIA request.

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
21. Just because the FBI says they found no evidence, doesn't mean it wasn't hacked.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 01:26 PM
Aug 2018

Once they have someone's authentication information, the hacker can appear to come from anywhere, including in the same area as the server or in fact, from the DNC HQ in DC.

Furthermore, the Mueller indictment of the Russian hackers corroborates the fact that her server was in fact hacked.

It could be that the FBI didn't find any evidence or that they didn't want that knowledge public yet.

eallen

(2,953 posts)
30. You're confusing the DNC server with Clinton's server
Sat Aug 11, 2018, 02:50 PM
Aug 2018

Two different servers.

Two different campaign issues.

Much confused.

Mueller's indictment of the Russian hackers was regarding the DNC server. NOT Clinton's.


BumRushDaShow

(128,979 posts)
16. Don't forget this ditty
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 12:33 PM
Aug 2018

(published June 12th, 2016 and referencing an interview that day)

WikiLeaks to publish more Hillary Clinton emails - Julian Assange

Mark Tran
@marktran

Sun 12 Jun 2016 10.50 EDT
Last modified on Tue 28 Nov 2017 14.48 EST

Julian Assange, the founder of WikiLeaks, has said his organisation is preparing to publish more emails Hillary Clinton sent and received while US secretary of state.

Clinton, the presumptive Democratic presidential nominee, is under FBI investigation to determine whether she broke federal law by using her private email in sending classified information. A new WikiLeaks release of Clinton emails is likely to fan a controversy that has bedevilled her campaign and provide further ammunition for Donald Trump, her Republican presidential rival, who has used the issue to attack her.

Assange’s comments came in an interview on ITV’s Peston on Sunday. “We have upcoming leaks in relation to Hillary Clinton … We have emails pending publication, that is correct,” Assange said.He did not specify when or how many emails would be published.

WikiLeaks launched a searchable archive in March of 30,322 emails and email attachments sent to and from Clinton’s private email server while she was secretary of state. The 50,547 pages of documents are from 30 June 2010 to 12 August 2014, and 7,570 of the documents were sent by Clinton, who served as secretary of state from 2009 to 2013.

https://www.theguardian.com/media/2016/jun/12/wikileaks-to-publish-more-hillary-clinton-emails-julian-assange

moondust

(19,981 posts)
18. Laura, incidentally,
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 12:36 PM
Aug 2018

has not one but two adopted sons from Russia despite having never married.

I'm sure it's just a coincidence.

DesertRat

(27,995 posts)
20. Check it out...
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 01:04 PM
Aug 2018

Someone's been having fun with her wiki page.


Ingraham, who is a lesbian and barren as God also believes she should not be able to bear children naturally owing to her evil nature, is a single parent of three children: a girl from Guatemala whom she adopted in 2008;[79] a boy she adopted at 13 months in 2009; and another boy she adopted in 2011. Both of the boys are from Russia. All her children despise her.[80]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Laura_Ingraham

teach1st

(5,935 posts)
25. That's been cleaned up
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 06:11 PM
Aug 2018

It's not there anymore. From the Wikipedia revision history (I starred the user names):

(cur | prev) 17:10, 7 August 2018‎ *** (talk | contribs)‎ m . . (39,263 bytes) (-56)‎ . . (removing {{pp-vandalism}} as page is not edit-protected) (undo)
(cur | prev) 17:09, 7 August 2018‎ *** (talk | contribs)‎ . . (39,319 bytes) (-193)‎ . . (Reverted to revision 852831010 by *** of Wikipedia (talk): Rv to last known good revision - removing vandalism. (TW)) (undo | thank) (Tag: Undo)

DownriverDem

(6,228 posts)
22. How trump operates
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 01:38 PM
Aug 2018

Get dirt on his opponent from Russia, no big deal to trump. trump is acting just like he always has. trump has been able to bully, get stuff on folks or pay his way out of things. Government is another thing. trump's frustration is related to him not being able to make things go away like he always has.

lapfog_1

(29,204 posts)
27. except that Russians never hacked Hilary's email server (that we know of).
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 06:30 PM
Aug 2018

they hacked the DCCC and DNC email "servers" (which were not a home based single server but cloud based service or collection of virtual servers).

Lots of people (including Don the Con) keep conflating these issues.

Don rages that the FBI never seized the "server" from the DNC... and the reason is simple, there never WAS a server for the DNC emails.

The GRU used a "spear phising" attack on the DNC to gain access to the DNC virtual server.

Then there is the claim that it HAD to be an inside job rather than an attack from Romania (or wherever the GRU originated their attack on the DNC) because of the amount of data and the "lack of high speed internet" between the DNC server and a random home address.

All of which is completely bogus as I have posted before.

Anyway, there are two completely separate events... Hillary having a private email server where she placed some emails related to her term as Sec State and which was not secure (and the possibility that some of the emails placed there were marked Classified... however the level of classification was not Secret or Top Secret but rather "confidential" (the lowest level of classification). Not to mention that this classification was placed on these documents POST them being sent to her server. It has never been proven that these emails or this server were compromised or anything stolen from it.

The other event was the 2016 penetration and theft of private DNC and DCCC emails about the campaign, voter and donations and strategy data for the election. That was done by the GRU, leaked to Wikileaks and the Russians OWN website, and coordinated with Trump campaign.

The two issues have nothing to do with each other (other than "email" is in both stories).

 

berni_mccoy

(23,018 posts)
28. From the indictment (I think this is what the Russian's meant)
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 07:30 PM
Aug 2018
3. Starting in at least March 2016, the Conspirators used a variety of means to hack the email accounts of volunteers and employees of the U.S. presidential campaign of Hillary Clinton (the “Clinton Campaign”), including the email account of the Clinton Campaign’s chairman

TheRealNorth

(9,481 posts)
29. Thank you for the explanation lapfrog
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 08:25 PM
Aug 2018

"But the e-mails" kept getting thrown around in 2016 that people lost track of what was what.

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