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by Amy Russo | Aug 7th, 2018, 9:55 am
While a chunk of President Donald Trumps base has stuck by him through ongoing scandals from questionable ties with Russia to the revelation of hush-money payouts to a porn star, some are having voters remorse.
Regretful ex-Trumpster Jeremy Montanez was felt so strongly about the matter that he apologized to the entire country on CNN.
I want to apologize to the nation for my vote for him, Montanez said Tuesday during a panel discussion New Day. It was the wrong thing to do. It was the biggest mistake I ever made.
Montanez also called the president a racist, pointing to his lack of attention to Puerto Ricos devastation by Hurricane Maria as an example.
He said they want to just crythey needed help, Montanez said. Just because theyre not white skinned he doesnt want to go down there and help them out?
more + video:
https://www.mediaite.com/tv/trump-voter-apologizes-to-the-nation-on-cnn-it-was-the-biggest-mistake-i-ever-made/
FM123
(10,053 posts)this should be on every tv capaign ad - there are probably many closeted regretters out there that would vote differently if they saw a few of their own out there they could identify with
quickesst
(6,280 posts)..... but anything short of this heartfelt apology to the entire nation will not a assuege my desire to see every trumpster who supported him face down puking and gagging in the cesspool they helped to create, and I am not sure even this public apology is enough. I have no desire to win these people over.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)It wont be quite redemption but might be a step in the right direction, definitely
Hayduke Bomgarte
(1,965 posts)They won't, unless faux noise tells them to...
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)I would guess based on polling, that there are at least the margin Trump won by in the exact same boat.
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)They may hate Dotard but still love them some Pence
quickesst
(6,280 posts).... but only after they spend time face down in the sewer just so they fully understand the consequences of stupidity. Collectively, their support of trump has caused so much pain to so many people. I think they should have a taste of that pain.
Tiggeroshii
(11,088 posts)I support any proven method of education that would allow those folks to see the absolute devastation they helped cause.
onit2day
(1,201 posts)quickesst
(6,280 posts).... anything in my post about Trump winning, I agree with you that it was stolen.
calimary
(81,267 posts)Hes a MUCH better Christian than I am - probably one of many reasons why I married him. His heart is big and gentle and forgiving. He has some of the same they should eat shit and die instincts but he consistently refuses to give them much air.
As for me, I struggle with that much harder. I find it so much harder to forgive and embrace. I want to punish. I want there to be severe consequences for those folks who do colossally stupid and ill-advised and repeatedly proven wrong things like voting republi-CON and trusting trump. I want them to pay, and pay dearly, for the choices they willingly and deliberately made. I wouldnt even mind working to take their right to vote away - because isnt that what a responsible parent does when the kids wont play nicely with their toys? You take their toys AWAY! And I have to fight this urge every minute of every day. Besides, violating voting rights is anathema to my higher self.
But I cant help it. I go there first. And then my better angels take over and yank me off that path. Or my husband talks about it and I realize I should be ashamed of myself for my knee jerk reaction to go there first. I went to Catholic school, which celebrates that Guy who advocated turning the other cheek and even forgave those who know not what they do WHILE suffering to His own death from what they didnt know they were doing. I tell you, its a CONSTANT battle. Daily. Hourly. Minute-by-minute.
I WANT to give them shit. I WANT them to get shit, and lots of it, to teach them a lesson and punish them for doing wrong. But my better angels (what few there are) constantly tell me thats just NOT the way. Thank God I had the good sense to marry one of them!
Ive posted here many times about trying to do it like a responsible parent should do: reward and reinforce GOOD behavior. And DO NOT reward or reinforce bad behavior. But like a good parent is supposed to do, that does NOT-NOT-NOT mean you hit or spank or deny care or food or protection - as punishment of some sort. And I believe that. Tried hard to raise our kids by that morality code.
And its a war within me that probably wont stop til I breathe my last. Because I try to remind myself not to give into it. Forgiveness is whats supposed to happen. Love over hate. And all those good things. And theyre damn hard to make good on.
recentevents
(93 posts)I've had some really bad days where the thoughts I have disgust me. I know I'm wrong but they just keep coming. The anger boils over and I can't help but think about how some of the middle eastern dictators met their end and want the same thing here. Dragged into the streets.......
Then I remember, we as a country will get through this and come out better on the other side. We will survive this. We as a country are dragging out all our demons into the light where fresh air and sunlight can sanitize it. Those of us who oppose the current times need to hang strong and not forget our convictions. Love & Light.
After these dark days no one can say this country isn't racist, homophobic, xenophobic et al. We see it day in and day out, the hatred pouring over, people showing their ass by calling police, verbal assault & abuse of our countrymen, on and on and on. Now we can fight it head on, instead of the soft shoeing it. (you're not a racist,homophobe,xenophobe but.....)
We need to hang on. Not let that hatred burn into us. Love & Light.
Stay airy my friend
calimary
(81,267 posts)How bout that Donald, eh? Hes a certified expert in bringing out the very worst in people.
calimary
(81,267 posts)quickesst
(6,280 posts).... I keep using the word stupidity which in many cases is a fitting description of trump voters. What pisses me off the most is the fact that the majority of these people are not stupid. They are people who have embraced the use of willful ignorance for an excuse to openly express their true selves which includes racism, misogyny, homophobia, and a host of other despicable behaviors. trump and maga are simply fronts to legitimize those behaviors. I am not influenced by any religion, but I will say that those who are and follow the teachings as they were meant to be I say good for them if it makes them a better person. For those who use religion as a crutch and an excuse to spew hatred for those who do not conform to their idea of what a Christian is can just go to hell.
Adrahil
(13,340 posts)But I am willing to embrace any former Trump voter who recognizes the error and votes against him next time.
Admitting and apologizing for a mistake that big takes a level of self-reflexivity and integrity that some folks just cannot muster. I'll take their votes too.
quickesst
(6,280 posts).... but I don't thank we'll get enough of them to make a real difference. Willful ignorance is about the hardest thing a trump supporter will admit to.
joshdawg
(2,648 posts)They knew what they were going to get when they voted for the con artist. He told everyone what he is...........and bragged about it.
I have no sympathy for anyone who voted for him and is now having remorse.
CurtEastPoint
(18,644 posts)onit2day
(1,201 posts)MagickMuffin
(15,942 posts)Perhaps you weren't paying attention to his campaign rallies or all the news clips of him mocking the disabled, demeaning women, calling Mexicans rapist and drug smugglers, etc.
Jeremy please start paying attention to who you vote for, it has consequences that affect us ALL!
iluvtennis
(19,858 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)The willfully blind could never see it, go figure.
kcr
(15,317 posts)There are so many reasons to regret voting for him, but that one especially galls me. How could they not see it?
RiverStone
(7,228 posts)But tRump has been a racist in plain sight for years. In fact, he has no shame whatsoever
I wonder how many supporters who drank the kool-aid can/will change their minds? I'd guess 5%. Most are completely brainwashed.
Tipperary
(6,930 posts)It gave me hope that they are turning on each other.
ooky
(8,923 posts)start coming out in mass denouncing their vote, his "policies" and his lies, and admitting to the world their mistake and their outrage at themselves for being this gullible and this stupid to expose the rest of us to this utter failure of a U.S. President. I am waiting patiently for the entire nation to unite in drowning out his remaining base and slam the door shut on this squatter in the White House, Fox News, and branding all the remaining idiots who continue to support him.
Oh what a wonderful day that would be.
bullwinkle428
(20,629 posts)very day he kicked off his campaign?
Grammy23
(5,810 posts)admit their vote was a mistake. It is hard enough to admit when you are wrong but on a national (or international) platform is even harder. The tRumpers have not been willing to budge an inch on tRump until recently because to admit they regret their vote was a certain invitation to be savaged. So even if they are thinking it, admitting it out loud is another matter.
We need those who have come out of their trance to be heard. They ARE out there and we need to resist the urge to put them through the wringer even though they might deserve a good tongue lashing just for being stupid and thoughtless with their vote. As has been said many times, every vote matters. And elections have consequences. But if these people are voluntarily coming out of hiding, we need to help them come forward. Many already know they made a bad mistake and cant undo what they did.
If we want more people to withhold their vote for tRump (and people in his mold), lets encourage the regretters to come forward without beating them to a pulp. (No matter how much we want to smack em!) We might be able to learn more about why people fell under his spell and figure out how to counter his tactics before an election takes place.
calimary
(81,267 posts)Its awfully hard to admit you were wrong, much less that youve been had. Especially in this case, when youve been ROYALLY had. At the end of a fork.
honest.abe
(8,678 posts)Roy Rolling
(6,917 posts)I'm sorry I will never trust those voters again. I can forgive, but I will never forget how my friends and neighbors. despite ample warning, used their votes to endanger the safety and sovereignty of the United States.
There needs to be new laws in place to prevent that from happening, starting with a form of the Fairness Doctrine to reduce propaganda, and repealing Citizens United to reduce money in politics.
Structural changes need to be made, not just change leaders.
Iggo
(47,552 posts)Either way, I don't want to know them.
pazzyanne
(6,556 posts)The "personhood" granted to corporations needs to be repealed as well. The shareholders of corporations are people who are voters. Corporations should NOT be treated as "people" in the bigger scheme of things.
Iggo
(47,552 posts)elmac
(4,642 posts).001% of tRump voters regret their vote. tRump is what they wanted, someone to fuck this country up and their miserable lives with it.
Amimnoch
(4,558 posts)Donate to Democratic Party candidates?
Canvas for Democratic Party candidates?
Get out there and push friends, family, neighbors to support Democratic Party candidates?
An apology is a start.. However, with all that's happened in the last couple of years, that alone isn't nearly enough.
CTyankee
(63,912 posts)change his own mind about what Trump was talking about with regards to minorities, the poor. women?
Do tell, buddy...
NewJeffCT
(56,828 posts)it's time to vote Democratic
Tom Rinaldo
(22,912 posts)At least admitting it was the biggest mistake he ever made acknowledges the magnitude of the error he made.
Liberalagogo
(1,770 posts)Are you going to listen to the left, next time? Are you going to stop sucking down propaganda from False Noise? Are you going to make restitution, even if it hurts you? What ACTIONS are you going to take to prevent this from ever happening again and how long will you do it?
Kudos for taking responsibility, but you've got a long road to hoe before you can expect any forgiveness.
cannabis_flower
(3,764 posts)Even listening to John Kasich would have prevented him from voting for Trumper!
Liberalagogo
(1,770 posts)that accurately pegged Shithole as Putin's puppet.
The right is ALWAYS wrong. Not saying that the left is always correct, but the right is ALWAYS wrong, no matter how "moderate" someone calls themselves.
Javaman
(62,530 posts)not go fuck yourself for the mess you helped put us in.
Ferrets are Cool
(21,106 posts)It did not take tRump hitting me over the head with a shovel to know he was a racist, bigoted pig. Why were you so stupid before the election? What were you looking at? A white man that was telling you things YOU wanted to hear?
Sorry, but FU.
watoos
(7,142 posts)He admitted his big mistake and I'm guessing there are a heck of a lot more people who are in the same boat.
I say to him and others, make amends, get on board and help us Make America America Again.
eleny
(46,166 posts)So far some have called in but wimped out at the last minute and they won't go on the air.
dsharp88
(487 posts)While I'm very happy he has come to that realization, he needs to get someone else to vote Democratic who didn't before. That will even the score for what he did.
Joe Nation
(963 posts)Just like elections.
Bleacher Creature
(11,256 posts)I appreciate the apology, but the damage can't be undone.
FakeNoose
(32,639 posts)moondust
(19,981 posts)the birther bullshit was a disqualifier all by itself. And there was lots more disqualifying bullshit piled on top of it.
Ask your shrink if you may be suffering from "Wishful Thinking Syndrome."
Thrill
(19,178 posts)Con man then and a con man now. You were just a fool to fall for it
workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Is he still going to vote GOP because if so he hasn't learned a damn thing.
7962
(11,841 posts)workinclasszero
(28,270 posts)Lots of democrats out there could use his help if he's really seen the light.
Stuart G
(38,427 posts)murielm99
(30,741 posts)They won't admit it publicly, but you can see it in their faces and hear it in some of their words.
When they get into the privacy of the voting booth, some of them will do the right thing. It may kill them to vote for a Democrat for the first time in their lives, but they will do it.
JustABozoOnThisBus
(23,340 posts)did he say he wished he'd voted for Hillary? If he had it to do over again, I'd bet he'd vote Trump.
I hope I'm wrong. I hope he (and many other Trump voters) will vote for the Democrat in 2020.
JDC
(10,127 posts)But they are too embarrassed, too stubborn, or too proud to openly admit it. In some cases those same causes may make them continue to make more "mistakes," trying to make 1 wrong a right. Its what bad decision makers do.
Hope I'm wrong about that last part.
TNLib
(1,819 posts)They all started arguing and seemed so divided. It was weird to watch.
Solly Mack
(90,767 posts)He makes a very public apology because?
He wants people to congratulate him for saying he's sorry? He wants recognition? He wants those 15 minutes?
So, now what?
He goes about his life, having expressed his remorse and does what?
Because saying "I'm sorry" isn't a cure-all.
Never has been. Never will be.
And we're not simply talking about a vote - we're talking about supporting each and every destructive word or action by Trump. That's what that vote he's so sorry about means.
Don't tell me you're sorry.
Work to undo the damage you caused with that vote.
Hamlette
(15,412 posts)We've been caught up in LeBron and Don Lemmon but Puerto Rico is a classic example of not only racism, but his teflon. They say Katrina badly tarnished W's reputation but no one mentions Puerto Rico where 5-10 times as many people died.
Don't forget Puerto Rico. It is on Trump.
pazzyanne
(6,556 posts)by throwing paper towels at them.
Vinnie From Indy
(10,820 posts)These people cannot be that hard to find.
Vinca
(50,271 posts)Uncle Joe
(58,362 posts)Thanks for the thread DonViejo