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riversedge

(70,220 posts)
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 10:50 AM Aug 2018

Trump's base starts to erode as he digs himself deeper and deeper into trouble

Trump's cruelty may be his downfall. If so, I have hope for America.
We can only hope!!




Trump’s base starts to erode as he digs himself deeper and deeper into trouble


https://www.rawstory.com/2018/08/trumps-base-starts-erode-digs-deeper-deeper-trouble/

07 Aug 2018 at 10:11 ET


............................................Even Trump’s critics admit that it had little effect in the short term. At this point, it is conventional wisdom among them that no single event will ever seal his fate — and that the only impact they might have on him, politically, is in the aggregate.

There is evidence that his numerous crises are finally starting to take that toll. According to a new poll by Priorities USA, Garin-Hart-Yang Research Group and Global Strategy Group, three recent “crises” have stuck, sharply driving down voters’ opinions of his temperament and truthfulness to their lowest ratings in the 11 tracking polls they’ve done of the Trump presidency:

Donald Trump’s dealings with Vladimir Putin, his handling of immigration and the separation of children from their families, and the impact of his trade war have stuck with voters in a way nothing else has since the beginning of his presidency.

It would seem that the Trump team’s “nothing matters” rationale may not be playing as well as they thought. After 18 months of Trump’s antics it’s become obvious that in every area Trump’s character flaws are producing crises. Even some of his own supporters have begun to balk:


Among the 37% of Trump voters who do not strongly approve of him, just 52% want to elect Republicans to help him pass his policies. Large shares of these weak Trump voters express an unfavorable reaction to Trump’s temperament and leadership style (53%), his dealings with Russia and Vladimir Putin (48%), and his truthfulness in the things that he says (47%). By 35% to 27% they express more doubts than confidence about whether Trump has the integrity and honesty a president should have (34% say they feel somewhere in between).


These impressions of Trump’s competence, integrity and truthfulness seem to be directly related to these three recent crises and they are affecting people’s attitudes about other issues. By a 56 percent to 31 percent margin, voters don’t like what they’ve heard about the trade war. That is spilling over into impressions of Trump’s allegedly brilliant economic stewardship. Only 35 percent said Trump’s economic policies are good for them, with the same number approving of the tax bill. Only 22 percent say that things are changing for the better economically.

An astonishing 64 percent say the cost of health care is getting worse. They know who to thank.

More and more are saying they want the congress to check his power:


By 51% to 37%, voters say they would rather see more Democrats elected to Congress to be a check and balance on Trump than more Republicans elected to Congress to help Trump pass his policies and programs. Notably, voters who backed Trump in 2016 are far less eager to elect Republicans to help Trump (75%) than Clinton voters are to elect Democrats to be a check on Trump (94%). This reflects the fact that Clinton voters are far more likely to strongly disapprove of Trump’s performance (83%) than Trump voters are to voice strong approval (63%).


This leads to an interesting strategic insight. Democrats running for office in the upcoming midterms don’t have to emphasize the Russia investigation or even immigration and trade if they are in red or swing districts. Trump’s incompetence and cruelty are already being taken into account, leaving the field open for candidates to focus on the bread and butter issues. Noxious Trumpism is baked in to people’s impressions of his policies now and Republicans who are associated with him (pretty much all of them) are tainted as well.

On Tuesday we have one of those bellwether special elections for the fall in an Ohio district that Trump won by double digits in 2016 and which has voted Republican for 30 years. The GOP has had all hands on deck for the past couple of weeks, but the last thing they needed was the president coming to town and holding one of his obnoxious rallies. A big part of this district is composed of those suburban white women who really loathe him. He insisted on showing up anyway, assured that his magic touch would bring legions of followers to the polls. Naturally, it’s almost the anniversary of the atrocity in Charlottesville so he had to tweet a racist rant about Ohio basketball hero LeBron James, just to ensure that his appearance was as pernicious as possible.

As of Election Day, Democrat Danny O’Connor and Republican Troy Balderson are tied, and reporting this week says the Democrats are surging. If O’Connor pulls it off, it’s going to be hard to say that Trump’s disruptive behavior “played well.” In fact the signs are that people are now paying close attention and don’t like what they see one little bit..........................


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Trump's base starts to erode as he digs himself deeper and deeper into trouble (Original Post) riversedge Aug 2018 OP
You can skip Raw Story's clickbait and go to the original article, here: The Velveteen Ocelot Aug 2018 #1
+1 dalton99a Aug 2018 #4
Cheetos attack of LeBron is gonna matter. NoMoreRepugs Aug 2018 #2
"...voters say they would rather see more Democrats elected to Congress to be a check and balance " Totally Tunsie Aug 2018 #3
They may not vote Dem but they are less likely to vote Bradshaw3 Aug 2018 #5
Dems plus 14% in generic poll... louis c Aug 2018 #6
But is that enough to Mr.Bill Aug 2018 #7
Yes. Anything over 6%. The larger to spread, the more districts we win. louis c Aug 2018 #8
Thanks. n/t Mr.Bill Aug 2018 #10
Latest Gallup still has him at 41% approval, though dsharp88 Aug 2018 #9
That's putrid louis c Aug 2018 #11
Is that 41% of Republicans? If so it is explained by avebury Aug 2018 #12
Baked-in Noxious Trumpism KayF Aug 2018 #13
*** IT'S THE LYING ABOUT THE TRUMP TOWER MEETING !!!*** That digs into Red Hatters the most, the uponit7771 Aug 2018 #14

Totally Tunsie

(10,885 posts)
3. "...voters say they would rather see more Democrats elected to Congress to be a check and balance "
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:28 AM
Aug 2018

Check and balance - a great point for Dem candidates to emphasize to win over the undecided voter. So simple, but so often forgotten.

Bradshaw3

(7,522 posts)
5. They may not vote Dem but they are less likely to vote
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:54 AM
Aug 2018

Which is also a good thing. The takeaway here is not to look for one thing to break the spell drumpf holds over his voters (although most won't ever change) but rather a collection of things that can cause a few to not vote or the few that will actually change their thinking.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
6. Dems plus 14% in generic poll...
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 12:21 PM
Aug 2018

...I predicted a plus 16 on election day 2018 and was ridiculed as a "million to one shot".

This poll, if accurate, makes that 16% prediction quite possible.

dsharp88

(487 posts)
9. Latest Gallup still has him at 41% approval, though
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 01:00 PM
Aug 2018

How it remains that high is beyond my comprehension, but 41 is about where it's been lately. That makes it sound like his base is holding. Perhaps a good result in Ohio will help.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
11. That's putrid
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 01:21 PM
Aug 2018

41%, but inside the numbers, the vary unfavorable are close to 45% in most polls, and the very favorable number is 23%. Intensity is what makes the difference.

How many "casual" Trump voters do you know?

Most pundits believe a "normal" President in this economic environment should be polling at 57% approval. 41% is piss poor. (Ya, I used piss on purpose)

avebury

(10,952 posts)
12. Is that 41% of Republicans? If so it is explained by
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 01:25 PM
Aug 2018

the fact that more Republicans are leaving the party which leaves the party with a higher concentration of Trump thugs.

uponit7771

(90,339 posts)
14. *** IT'S THE LYING ABOUT THE TRUMP TOWER MEETING !!!*** That digs into Red Hatters the most, the
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 09:05 PM
Aug 2018

... sold out ones are going to argue what is is ... the ones on the fringe will argue legality but the ones about to tip can be bent with the lying about another government giving him information.

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