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kpete

(71,991 posts)
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:47 AM Aug 2018

Ex-Trumpers Confront Supporters: Lots Of 'Idiots' Voted For Trump, Including Me

On Tuesday morning, CNN hosted a panel discussion between a gaggle of former supporters of President Donald Trump who regret their vote and those who are still gung-ho about the President’s policies and behavior.


One former Trump supporter, Maryse Selit, had some particularly biting words: “We have a lot of really — I have to be crass about it — idiots who voted for him, including myself at one time,” she said.

That comment was taken with “great offense” by a pro-Trumper: “I’m not an idiot,” Arthur Schaper said. “It was a wise decision … for working class Americans who are tired of their jobs being taken by illegals.”



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Ex-Trumpers Confront Supporters: Lots Of 'Idiots' Voted For Trump, Including Me (Original Post) kpete Aug 2018 OP
Dear Arthur Schaper mikeysnot Aug 2018 #1
What jobs are they talking about? ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2018 #2
Sorry, but that is a stereotype...also, dig deeper...most are well educated. Fred Sanders Aug 2018 #4
True. ProudMNDemocrat Aug 2018 #5
That Said. . . ProfessorGAC Aug 2018 #9
They believe what they are told without checking anything. pangaia Aug 2018 #6
Here mikeysnot Aug 2018 #3
let these idiots, yes all of them are idiots, fight it out among themselves. Javaman Aug 2018 #7
Hey Arthur! What job was taken from you? Dishwasher? Farm laborer? muntrv Aug 2018 #8
His dream job was to pick lettuce, but that career path was closed to him dalton99a Aug 2018 #10
If you have a job that can "stolen" by an undocumented worker who probably does not have a TeamPooka Aug 2018 #11
"Redeemed" Deplorables. oasis Aug 2018 #12

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,785 posts)
2. What jobs are they talking about?
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 11:54 AM
Aug 2018


Dishwashers in restaurants?
Housekeepers in Hotels?
Pickers of crops in fields?
Wait staff at Trump properties?
Lawn care personell for rich people?
Aupairs or Nannies for rich people?
Working long hours in Slaughterhouses?
Janitors for Schools and businesses?

What jobs are these people so afraid of immigrants TAKING AWAY from them they they would not do in the first place? Talk about BRAIN DEAD.

Fred Sanders

(23,946 posts)
4. Sorry, but that is a stereotype...also, dig deeper...most are well educated.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 12:00 PM
Aug 2018

Any menial jobs of which you speak are also only a first step pathway to other jobs...including military service, higher education, manufacturing, etc.

😀

ProudMNDemocrat

(16,785 posts)
5. True.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 12:06 PM
Aug 2018

But these are jobs people are taking that pay under the table or very low wages. Yet, more in an hour what they make in a day for the same work.

Jealousy that immigrants are turning to the Military, paying their way for Education and better jobs should be an incentive for others to pursue. But they choose to sit and complain, and bitch about their situations, rather than take action to rectify that.

This is an issue that is a double edged sword that needs addressing.

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
9. That Said. . .
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 02:06 PM
Aug 2018

. . .and not saying your way off base, but aren't a lot of those skilled people coming to america legally under the visa rules?

So, the jobs a guy like that is talking about aren't being dominated by undocumented folks, but those here with the acceptance of the US government.

pangaia

(24,324 posts)
6. They believe what they are told without checking anything.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 12:09 PM
Aug 2018

They hate themselves, their own empty lives. lives with no aim, no meaning.. they are empty shells and that is very painful.
So-- they create anger at something else, other humans. Partially because HATE is better than no feeling at all. It makes them feel alive, useful....

Javaman

(62,530 posts)
7. let these idiots, yes all of them are idiots, fight it out among themselves.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 12:33 PM
Aug 2018

we can just sit back and watch them implode.

dalton99a

(81,488 posts)
10. His dream job was to pick lettuce, but that career path was closed to him
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 02:09 PM
Aug 2018

thanks to the evil Mexicans

TeamPooka

(24,226 posts)
11. If you have a job that can "stolen" by an undocumented worker who probably does not have a
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 02:10 PM
Aug 2018

mastery of English like you, or your work history/experience, and every other advantage you have as a citizen: opportunity for a free education ie HS diploma GED etc, then it's your fault you lost that entry level, hard labor, minimum wage job.

Not a lot of middle level white collar jobs being stolen by a guy who just crossed the border.

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