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What's your electricity rates? (Original Post) SHRED Aug 2018 OP
15 cents a kWh - that's everything - juice and distribution costs jpak Aug 2018 #1
6.8 cents per kwh. Keefer Aug 2018 #2
Counting Distribution? ProfessorGAC Aug 2018 #21
9.74 cents a kilowatt. mwooldri Aug 2018 #3
The way I figure it is 8.8 Cents per KWH LiberalArkie Aug 2018 #4
500 kWh 9.8 / 1,000 kWh 6.9 / 2000 kWh 10.9 Lisa0825 Aug 2018 #5
i had a home in Chelan County Washington...3c a kwh samnsara Aug 2018 #6
small county bought into the cheap power with the local dam... samnsara Aug 2018 #7
Holy shit genxlib Aug 2018 #8
San Diego's climate has changed in the past 10 years FreeState Aug 2018 #16
About $0.106 per kWh here in Texas dumbcat Aug 2018 #9
9 cents plus a basic charge of $20 per month. jalan48 Aug 2018 #10
About $0.12/kWh in Connecticut VMA131Marine Aug 2018 #11
My fuel rate of .0324190 per kWh makes up only 25% of my sinkingfeeling Aug 2018 #12
That's insane. How does that compare to other larges cities in Southern CA? xor Aug 2018 #13
I only left San Diego months ago and my rates were cheap enough, isn't it 13.5 cents per average? braddy Aug 2018 #14
10.54 is the US average (2017) FreeState Aug 2018 #17
13.15 for 2018 according to this site. braddy Aug 2018 #20
Yep - all sites say different things (different methodologies) FreeState Aug 2018 #24
Central Virginia - for our house we average about 11 cents/kWh (effective) brachism Aug 2018 #15
Are we talking before or after the fees we're paying for the failed nuclear plant? GoCubsGo Aug 2018 #18
Not sure what my rate is, but vsrazdem Aug 2018 #19
Whoa. MissB Aug 2018 #30
PSEG - Variable Rate, and Delivery Charges too. TheBlackAdder Aug 2018 #22
10.7 cents/kWh GeorgeGist Aug 2018 #23
It's important to distinguish here between the base rate and effective rate. NoSmoke Aug 2018 #25
Duke Energy in FL. Roland99 Aug 2018 #26
I have Duke in FL too radical noodle Aug 2018 #27
$11 basic charge and .11/kw MissB Aug 2018 #28
And another city in Oregon that has great rates MissB Aug 2018 #29
dominion virginia power in southeastern virginia drray23 Aug 2018 #31
.1125/KWH in coastal AL. EMC elec.coop. trof Aug 2018 #32
Hey all: Just divide your total bill by KWH used for the month. trof Aug 2018 #33

ProfessorGAC

(65,042 posts)
21. Counting Distribution?
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 02:47 PM
Aug 2018

If so, that's really cheap. In northeastern IL it's 6.32 cents/kWh, for the power and 3.51 cents/kWh for transmission, or 10 and a third cents per kWh. If you have electric heat, the transmission cost is lower by about 20%. (Still and expensive way to heat a house.)

On the chart Shred showed though, 27 cents for the first 324 kWh???? Holy cow, that's steep!

That's only 450 watts continuous use over the course of the month. A 60 watt equivalent LED light, a TV and a computer use more than that.

LiberalArkie

(15,715 posts)
4. The way I figure it is 8.8 Cents per KWH
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 01:05 PM
Aug 2018

Energy. 629KWH. 58.73

Energy Cost Adj. 629 KwH @ .0043715- 2.75

Debt Cost Adj. 629 KwH @ .0003148- 0.20



Note mine may be high as I live out in the Ouachita National Forest and am on a Coop.

samnsara

(17,622 posts)
7. small county bought into the cheap power with the local dam...
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 01:15 PM
Aug 2018

...Douglas County next to it did same. The pot farms LOVE it down that way!

genxlib

(5,526 posts)
8. Holy shit
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 01:17 PM
Aug 2018

You are getting hosed. It's a good thing you have a good climate. My air conditioning bill would be a fortune under those rates.

We are somewhere in the range of 8-10 cents.

On the bright side, it sure makes solar look like a good deal if you can swing it. The low rates around here make it less desirable.

FreeState

(10,572 posts)
16. San Diego's climate has changed in the past 10 years
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 02:21 PM
Aug 2018

San Diego's climate has changed in the past 10 years - it use to only get up in the 90s once or twice a season, with low humidity. This week will be in the 90s with high humidity.

They said on the news that 60% of homes now have air-conditioning in San Diego.

Older article (2014) but its still relevant: https://insideclimatenews.org/news/20141014/california-heat-delivers-costly-blow-coastal-san-diego

dumbcat

(2,120 posts)
9. About $0.106 per kWh here in Texas
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 01:18 PM
Aug 2018

Sometimes a little less if I stay below 1000 kWh for the month.

ETA: My retail energy provider is Reliant Energy, and I have a 24 month fixed rate plan that is 100% wind power.

jalan48

(13,865 posts)
10. 9 cents plus a basic charge of $20 per month.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 01:20 PM
Aug 2018

It's important to include the basic charge in the calculation.

VMA131Marine

(4,139 posts)
11. About $0.12/kWh in Connecticut
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 01:25 PM
Aug 2018

That's an average. I pay $103/month for my solar panel lease and the array produces about 10,000kWh/yr. I have net metering and put a small surplus into the grid on an annual basis. When I was buying power strictly off the grid I was paying around $0.17/kWh, or more.

sinkingfeeling

(51,457 posts)
12. My fuel rate of .0324190 per kWh makes up only 25% of my
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 01:26 PM
Aug 2018

electric bill. Rate billing (whatever that is) is 50% of bill. Then there's a customer charge, environmental compliance charge and two separate taxes.

I assume the rate charge is something like what you posted.

Just dividing bill by kWh used it comes to .10917 per kWh.

xor

(1,204 posts)
13. That's insane. How does that compare to other larges cities in Southern CA?
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 01:34 PM
Aug 2018

Seems like an oppressive rate. To the point that it would be a major drain on the economy as people and businesses move to get away from such high prices.

 

braddy

(3,585 posts)
14. I only left San Diego months ago and my rates were cheap enough, isn't it 13.5 cents per average?
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 01:56 PM
Aug 2018

FreeState

(10,572 posts)
24. Yep - all sites say different things (different methodologies)
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 03:02 PM
Aug 2018

US Chamber of Commerce says:

In 2017, we actually have the highest national average retail electricity price of the past four years: 10.54 cents/kWh. This tops the 2016, 2015, and 2014 national average rates of 10.28, 10.42, and 10.13 cents/kWh, respectively.

https://www.uschamber.com/series/above-the-fold/shock-here-s-where-your-state-stacks-electricity-prices

sunmetrix.com Says: 12.81 cents/KWh
https://sunmetrix.com/residential-electricity-rates-united-states/

I tend to go with the Chamber of Commerce as theirs shows where the data comes from.

brachism

(82 posts)
15. Central Virginia - for our house we average about 11 cents/kWh (effective)
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 02:01 PM
Aug 2018

That 11 cents is based on our total bill / our total kWhs. The total bill amount includes a distribution service cost, the actual electrical cost (generation, transmission, and fuel), sales/use surcharges, state/local consumption tax, and local utility tax.

All electric (heating, hot water, laundry, kitchen, etc.) based on 67 months.

For what it is worth, our usage (last 67 months)

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GoCubsGo

(32,083 posts)
18. Are we talking before or after the fees we're paying for the failed nuclear plant?
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 02:28 PM
Aug 2018

Those tack on an extra 18% to residential bills. I can't figure out exactly what my rate is, because the information they provide is just a big mishmash of numbers. But, I know that we pay about $400 more annually than the national average, thanks, in large part, to the nuclear plant that South Carolina Electric and Gas started to build, and then abandoned, and sticking us customers with the $9 billion bill. I hope everyone involved in that winds up in prison for the rest of their lives. Bunch of goddamn thieves.

vsrazdem

(2,177 posts)
19. Not sure what my rate is, but
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 02:30 PM
Aug 2018

I used 85% of my usage on off peak hours, and in Phoenix my last APS bill was still $570, the highest it has ever been. This sucks!

TheBlackAdder

(28,201 posts)
22. PSEG - Variable Rate, and Delivery Charges too.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 02:51 PM
Aug 2018

.

In New Jersey, using PSEG, which is a highly reliable provider. My last month's bill:


Supply Charges

First 360kWh x $0.117056 = $42.14
Next 585 kWh x $0.126752 = S74.15
Next 240 kWh x $0.115000 = $27.60
Next 391 kWh x $0.124680 = $48.75
subtotal = $192.64


Delivery Charges

Monthly fee of $2.42
First 600 kWh x $0.046017 = $27.61
Next 976 kwH x $0.050092 = $48.89
subtotal = $78.92

Total for 1,576 kWh = 271.56 -or- an effective rate of $0.172360/kWh

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NoSmoke

(69 posts)
25. It's important to distinguish here between the base rate and effective rate.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 03:02 PM
Aug 2018

My base "energy charge" rate (Alberta, Canada) is about 5 cents/KWH i.e. the wholesale price of electricity which, around here, is what is passed on to the end user at cost. My effective rate i.e. the total bill $ (including transmission, distribution, admin and a few other charges) divided by the KWHs consumed varies from around 25 cents/KWH to 18 or 19, depending on the consumption for a given month (higher consumption leads to lower cents/KWH).

If that's how the OPs San Diego rates are calculated, they don't seem too bad in comparison, at least for the lower consumption amounts.

Roland99

(53,342 posts)
26. Duke Energy in FL.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 03:04 PM
Aug 2018
Energy Charge

$0.07132 first 1000kwh. Then $0.08559


Fuel Charge
$0.03838 first 1000kwh. Then $0.04838


Asset Securitization Charge
$0.00254

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Just checked as I was looking for on vs off peak hours

Peak hours from Apr - Oct are noon-9pm

Adjusting my pool pump to run more in the morning and gonna talk to the mrs about laundry in the morning or later at night. Sizeable drop in cost

Edit: oh wait. Peak vs off peak is only for time of use customers apparently. Blah

radical noodle

(8,000 posts)
27. I have Duke in FL too
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 03:16 PM
Aug 2018

Same charges exactly, so no difference in area, apparently. We paid a fortune in rural Indiana with REMC. It's been six years now so I don't remember the rates, but FL is great in comparison.

MissB

(15,808 posts)
28. $11 basic charge and .11/kw
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 03:36 PM
Aug 2018

Portland Oregon

Credits and taxes excluded, but those two seem to cancel each other out.

We used 774 kW this past month. We are in our 3rd heat wave this week- so we’ve had the central air on pretty much constantly in the past month. If I lived where you did, I’d be paying that tier 2 rate. Even if you didn’t have a basic rate, working that into my cost per kW would only add a penny.

MissB

(15,808 posts)
29. And another city in Oregon that has great rates
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 03:41 PM
Aug 2018

is McMinnville. Their customer charge is $14.50/ month and their usage fee is .05/kW for the first 1000.

Charming city too.

drray23

(7,629 posts)
31. dominion virginia power in southeastern virginia
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 04:55 PM
Aug 2018

Dirt cheap.

from june-september
distribution :
2.15 cents per kWh first 800 kWh
1.2212 cents per kWh next 800 kWh

$6.73 fixed charge added to that

then add the supply charges:

3.6464 cents per kWh first 800 kWh
5.5464 cents per kWh next 800 kWh

then 0.973 cents per kWh for all kWh

so if you use less than 800kWh per month , you would be at 2.15+3.64+0.973 = 4.82 cents per kWh onto which you add $6.73 and a bunch of other taxes.






trof

(54,256 posts)
33. Hey all: Just divide your total bill by KWH used for the month.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 05:09 PM
Aug 2018

I didn't split out service charges, taxes, etc. I just wanted to know what I pay in total per KWH.

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