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louis c

(8,652 posts)
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 12:43 PM Aug 2018

May I predict the Ohio 12?

I got the Jones election correct in Alabama and Lamb in Pennsylvania. I'm certainly not correct all the time, but I do OK most of the time.

Here's my reasoning. Balderson (R) hasn't budged in the polls since the middle of June. In fact he's gone from 48% to 46%, while nearly all the momentum, the undecideds and Independents are breaking O'Conner (D). This election is really coming down to a referendum on Trump and his approval rating is slightly under water in this district. This does look a lot like the Western Pennsylvania race, which was a Trump plus 19% in 2016. Ohio's 12th is Trump plus 11% in 2016. Although the twelfth is one of the whitest districts in Ohio, it is also among the most educated. The Rural, Suburban breakdown is 2 to 1 Suburban.

I don't think that Trump was any help to Balderson, but Kasich may have been, although the Governor may have diluted that with his revelation on Sunday that Trump wasn't invited in for that rally.

The enthusiasm for Democratic candidates in this election cycle, the revulsion of Trump by more educated voters, especially women, the bad stories about Trump recently and the historical trends make my prediction what it is.

O'Conner by 3%

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May I predict the Ohio 12? (Original Post) louis c Aug 2018 OP
I'll take it RhodeIslandOne Aug 2018 #1
If you're wrong TlalocW Aug 2018 #2
May I suggest a spanking? louis c Aug 2018 #4
Thank you sir, may I have another district? TeamPooka Aug 2018 #20
Very positive outlook..and I hope you are right!! k and r..nt Stuart G Aug 2018 #3
What impact will the Lebron smear have on this race lapfog_1 Aug 2018 #5
LeBron is better liked in Nothern Ohio, around Cleveland louis c Aug 2018 #6
there are a lot of LeBron fans in central Ohio... Ohiya Aug 2018 #12
Lebron is well liked RazBerryBeret Aug 2018 #14
Jesus, no one said "disliked" louis c Aug 2018 #15
ouch. touchy. RazBerryBeret Aug 2018 #18
I just don't like people putting words in my mouth louis c Aug 2018 #36
Columbus is on 170 True Blue American Aug 2018 #31
Stupid people don't know they're stupid. Doitnow Aug 2018 #24
Make it so, Ohioans! MineralMan Aug 2018 #7
Good thoughtful analysis. Is anyone else really excited for tonight? PearliePoo2 Aug 2018 #8
postcardstovoters.org had a big campaign for O'Conner! CrispyQ Aug 2018 #9
Don't jinx it. nycbos Aug 2018 #10
Didn't see this episode. tavernier Aug 2018 #16
Here is another good one nycbos Aug 2018 #22
I think you are on track grantcart Aug 2018 #11
You may be right! yallerdawg Aug 2018 #13
GOP heads would explode. sellitman Aug 2018 #17
Balderson isn't covering himself with glory heading into election day gratuitous Aug 2018 #19
Thanks for posting ... all I can say is wow! What an idiot...nt SWBTATTReg Aug 2018 #28
I'll take O'Conner by .1% if necessary TeamPooka Aug 2018 #21
Especially want to see how Franklin County votes. keithbvadu2 Aug 2018 #23
Message auto-removed Name removed Aug 2018 #25
I think we have a winner! honest.abe Aug 2018 #26
I'm reluctant to predict an O'Conner win. Adrahil Aug 2018 #27
This is COPACETIC! sprinkleeninow Aug 2018 #29
Everyone is Danny O'Connor today.....3% - that would be just fine - in fact anything over asiliveandbreathe Aug 2018 #30
I'll take O'Connor by any . . . peggysue2 Aug 2018 #32
balderson(r) equals saccone(r), yortsed snacilbuper Aug 2018 #33
Even a 10 point loss by O'Connor is a huge win when you look at beachbum bob Aug 2018 #34
Sounds like a reasonable guess. I hope you are right. n/t D23MIURG23 Aug 2018 #35

lapfog_1

(29,204 posts)
5. What impact will the Lebron smear have on this race
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 12:51 PM
Aug 2018

isn't Lebron a local hero there?

Picking a fight with him seemed to me to be a really stupid thing to do...

Go to a state and pick on their NFL or NBA stars.

OTOH maybe the racist rural areas hate Lebron and this attack motivates them??? (not saying that it is... just wondering)

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
6. LeBron is better liked in Nothern Ohio, around Cleveland
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 12:53 PM
Aug 2018

This district is more in the Columbus area, near Dayton. Much further South and much less urban.

RazBerryBeret

(3,075 posts)
14. Lebron is well liked
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 02:13 PM
Aug 2018

state wide. I live in 12, N Westerville.
It's hard to dislike a guy who does so much and gives so much to his community.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
15. Jesus, no one said "disliked"
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 02:21 PM
Aug 2018

But LeBron is better known and has done more for the Akron area than any other area of Ohio. If 90% of the Cleveland area residents like LeBron and 80% of the Columbus area resident likes LeBron, that doesn't mean he's disliked, just better liked in the region he's from, the closest big city he played for, and the larger recipient of his generosity.

 

louis c

(8,652 posts)
36. I just don't like people putting words in my mouth
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 06:31 PM
Aug 2018

Last edited Tue Aug 7, 2018, 08:40 PM - Edit history (1)

I can speak for myself.

True Blue American

(17,984 posts)
31. Columbus is on 170
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 03:44 PM
Aug 2018

40 miles east of Dayton. But the gerrymandered District stretches from Zanesville, south to Mansfield, north.

Because it is the State Capital, more Educated have moved there.

I have posted this before.

https://statehousegang.com/

Balderson joins the gang.

https://ohiodems.org/state-sen-troy-balderson-joins-the-statehouse-gang/

PearliePoo2

(7,768 posts)
8. Good thoughtful analysis. Is anyone else really excited for tonight?
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 01:15 PM
Aug 2018

Because of the profound implications and importance of this election, I'm on the edge of my seat, heart pounding.

Take it to the ReThugs, eat their lunch and kick their ass!

GO Danny!

CrispyQ

(36,464 posts)
9. postcardstovoters.org had a big campaign for O'Conner!
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 01:46 PM
Aug 2018

I joined late, but I got about a dozen postcards sent out to OH. There are more races if you want to volunteer! It's relaxing, therapeutic, & fun. I stole a great tagline from DU for my cards:



https://postcardstovoters.org

They send you text that you have to use (name of candidate, date of election) & then a bunch of optional text.

grantcart

(53,061 posts)
11. I think you are on track
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 02:04 PM
Aug 2018

Republicans have no addition, working on subtraction

DEMS working on addition.

yallerdawg

(16,104 posts)
13. You may be right!
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 02:08 PM
Aug 2018

My Republican senator (Shelby) is tending to agree with me when I complain about the Dotard and his tariffs and foreign policy.

I haven't seen that in decades! Something is most definitely going on.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
19. Balderson isn't covering himself with glory heading into election day
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 02:33 PM
Aug 2018

The video here is only a minute long, but well worth for a look at Troy Balderson's true colors:

Link to Daily Kos story and video.

Pretty sorry display by everyone in front of the camera.

keithbvadu2

(36,806 posts)
23. Especially want to see how Franklin County votes.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 02:57 PM
Aug 2018

Ohio politician really screws up

Republican in Ohio Special Election Closes Race by Insulting One-Third of Voters

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/08/troy-balderson-franklin-county.html

Response to louis c (Original post)

 

Adrahil

(13,340 posts)
27. I'm reluctant to predict an O'Conner win.
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 03:18 PM
Aug 2018

I've been disappointed too many times.

But I have to say, your call feels right. It just FEELS like the momentum is in our favor. I just hope it's enough.

asiliveandbreathe

(8,203 posts)
30. Everyone is Danny O'Connor today.....3% - that would be just fine - in fact anything over
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 03:43 PM
Aug 2018

0.25% is a win....if this is true...

Recount rule.. Ohio: Automatic recount if the difference between the top two candidates is less than 0.25 percent.

peggysue2

(10,828 posts)
32. I'll take O'Connor by any . . .
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 03:46 PM
Aug 2018

percentile. Not only would it give us a leg up in November but a win here would be a tremendous punch in the gut to Republican strategists who are trying to send the message: nothing to see here, move along. It would also bust the Trumpster's chops with his Red Wave nonsense.

Lips to God's ear, as they say.

Has anyone heard info on today's voter turnout in Ohio? That might give us an early clue.

 

beachbum bob

(10,437 posts)
34. Even a 10 point loss by O'Connor is a huge win when you look at
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 04:30 PM
Aug 2018

2016 OH-12 results and voter disparity between GOP and democrats in the May 8th primary for this special election.

An O'Conner win will blow GOPland

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