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pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 05:51 PM Aug 2018

It's so strange that Citizens Bank didn't run a check on Manafort's property to look for mortgages.

Why didn't the bank have a title search run on the property, to make sure the title was clear and there were no prior liens? Whoever heard of that not being done?

https://www.cnn.com/politics/live-news/manafort-trial/index.html

Gates also described in detail how he sent an out-of-date insurance policy to a bank to prove a Manafort-owned property had no mortgage on it, when current documents would have shown it did.

Citizens Bank had questioned whether it could loan Manafort money backed by a property that the bank thought was already encumbered.

"Mr. Manafort had asked me to submit the prior year's policy," Gates explained to the jury Tuesday. "The circles are now squared," Gates wrote to Manafort in an email in 2016 about convincing the bank there was no mortgage on Manafort's Union Street property.

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It's so strange that Citizens Bank didn't run a check on Manafort's property to look for mortgages. (Original Post) pnwmom Aug 2018 OP
Different rules for the rich? guillaumeb Aug 2018 #1
republicans think they are "special" Achilleaze Aug 2018 #12
Kick and Rec orangecrush Aug 2018 #2
Didn't Manafort have an inside man? PJMcK Aug 2018 #3
yup... this lapfog_1 Aug 2018 #5
Wrong bank C-SPAN4me Aug 2018 #6
Thanks PJMcK Aug 2018 #13
Probably did at this banks also, but that was another one. Maybe he just threw out some powerful bettyellen Aug 2018 #7
Oops, my mistake PJMcK Aug 2018 #14
Sooo many crimes, I know! bettyellen Aug 2018 #17
Forged documents and quid-pro-quo. n/t janx Aug 2018 #4
Very strange indeed Jersey Devil Aug 2018 #8
The title search would be on property he is buying or re-financing, Not on property 3Hotdogs Aug 2018 #9
Real estate IS "property" Jersey Devil Aug 2018 #10
He WAS re-financing it. And it would be financially crazy not to run a title search pnwmom Aug 2018 #15
I wonder if politicians do this too. LiberalFighter Aug 2018 #11
We are going through the mortgage process right now and I can tell you redstatebluegirl Aug 2018 #16
The bank engages an attorney or a title company to examine the title Mr. Ected Aug 2018 #18
You don't understand, Jimmy gratuitous Aug 2018 #19

Achilleaze

(15,543 posts)
12. republicans think they are "special"
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 06:17 PM
Aug 2018

They don't do honor, integrity, truth, that kind of stuff. They do republican stuff. They think they are "special."

PJMcK

(22,037 posts)
3. Didn't Manafort have an inside man?
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 05:57 PM
Aug 2018

Wasn't there a guy who wanted a job in the Trump administration and he green-lighted Manafort's loans for three of his properties?

His name is Steve Calk and here's an article from TPM:

https://talkingpointsmemo.com/muckraker/manafort-emails-gates-to-discussbanker-for-army-secretary

C-SPAN4me

(14 posts)
6. Wrong bank
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 06:00 PM
Aug 2018

Calk was "one" of the inside guys at a bank in Chicago. Not Citizens Bank. So, a different instance of bank AND insurance fraud.

 

bettyellen

(47,209 posts)
7. Probably did at this banks also, but that was another one. Maybe he just threw out some powerful
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 06:02 PM
Aug 2018

Names to get the fraudulent loan approved. That’s happened with other people very close to famous politicians.

Jersey Devil

(9,874 posts)
8. Very strange indeed
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 06:05 PM
Aug 2018

Banks don't do title searches until after a commitment is issued, but they ALWAYS do them before the loan closes, so I can't understand how they could get away with mortgaging a piece of property that had an existing mortgage on it already, unless the bank was in on the fraud - hmm.

3Hotdogs

(12,378 posts)
9. The title search would be on property he is buying or re-financing, Not on property
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 06:09 PM
Aug 2018

used for collateral.

pnwmom

(108,978 posts)
15. He WAS re-financing it. And it would be financially crazy not to run a title search
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 06:35 PM
Aug 2018

on property used for collateral.

redstatebluegirl

(12,265 posts)
16. We are going through the mortgage process right now and I can tell you
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 06:40 PM
Aug 2018

they must have different rules for the rich. I think they know our bathroom habits after all of the questions and searching.

Mr. Ected

(9,670 posts)
18. The bank engages an attorney or a title company to examine the title
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 06:50 PM
Aug 2018

The question is whether this file was put in a special drawer. I can assure you, with the dollar values involved, no honest banker would fail to see the encumbrance, and no title attorney would overlook it in a title examination.

There was assuredly insider meddling at ye Olde Citizens Bank.

gratuitous

(82,849 posts)
19. You don't understand, Jimmy
Tue Aug 7, 2018, 07:01 PM
Aug 2018

Mr. Manafort is a very good customer of Citizen's, and we're proud to have his business. He probably just sent the wrong policy by mistake. Sign off on that part of the application and do it now, or update your resume.

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